Bioshock: Infinite

[BadMoon]

Man so pissed when I found out

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I had to fight this ***** again. I was hard enough the first time. Oh well. I hope I don't have to do it a third time.

 

[BadMoon]

Man so pissed when I found out

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I had to fight this ***** again. I was hard enough the first time. Oh well. I hope I don't have to do it a third time.

****ing *******s! They actually make you do it three times. **** you!

 

[Deckard]

Oh man, you were stuck in the graveyard the first time?

Yea, the Bank and Gate are the real tough ones. Don't worry it gets harder.

 

[LittleBahamut]

I am a little worried about games on the PC that needs to go through Steam as of late. I am new to this stuff and wonder what would happen if Steam made bad decisions and went out of business. All of a sudden all my digitally bought game is simply just gone? It makes me wonder the same thing about Barnes and Nobles nook purchases. With the future possibly going all digital, is there no place for physical copies anymore?

 

[The Josh]

Finished tonight

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Really great game. The end is a total mind ****. I liked that you went to Rapture. I think that was just a nod though as one of the various doors of the bioshock world. I did like the twist of him being comstock and didn't totally see that one coming. I'm curious to see what the DLC has instore for this game and where they take the story. I also stayed through the credits and that was another bit to mess with your head.

I downloaded my soundtrack which is pretty good. I will admit my favorite piece is Will The Circle Be Unbroken.

 

[Deckard]

Finished tonight

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Really great game. The end is a total mind ****. I liked that you went to Rapture. I think that was just a nod though as one of the various doors of the bioshock world. I did like the twist of him being comstock and didn't totally see that one coming. I'm curious to see what the DLC has instore for this game and where they take the story. I also stayed through the credits and that was another bit to mess with your head.

I downloaded my soundtrack which is pretty good. I will admit my favorite piece is Will The Circle Be Unbroken.

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Except the Rapture part is more than a nod. It's post New Year Rapture, as indicated by the signs that bathysphere travel is now denied. In B1 it's a huge plot point that once they are locked down, the only people who can use them are those with Ryan's DNA. It's why everyone is still trapped in the city. Why Fontaine needs you to help his splicer army get topside. So you are in some way related to or in fact Jack/Andrew Ryan. No way in hell the people who made the first game overlooked such a giant plot point that was the hint at the twist in the first game all along just to put in a neat cameo. Theres also a voxaphone recording in Finkton that explains they got research from Rapture that lead to them being able to create the Songbird.

 

[The Josh]

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Except the Rapture part is more than a nod. It's post New Year Rapture, as indicated by the signs that bathysphere travel is now denied. In B1 it's a huge plot point that once they are locked down, the only people who can use them are those with Ryan's DNA. It's why everyone is still trapped in the city. Why Fontaine needs you to help his splicer army get topside. So you are in some way related to or in fact Jack/Andrew Ryan. No way in hell the people who made the first game overlooked such a giant plot point that was the hint at the twist in the first game all along just to put in a neat cameo. Theres also a voxaphone recording in Finkton that explains they got research from Rapture that lead to them being able to create the Songbird.

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It sounds possible to me. I think its cool if it is all tied together somehow. So that I can roll with that.

 

[Duck]

I am a little worried about games on the PC that needs to go through Steam as of late. I am new to this stuff and wonder what would happen if Steam made bad decisions and went out of business. All of a sudden all my digitally bought game is simply just gone? It makes me wonder the same thing about Barnes and Nobles nook purchases. With the future possibly going all digital, is there no place for physical copies anymore?

I am almost positive steam has came out and said if they went out of business they would release a way for you to play your games with out steam. That being said steam won't go out of business. Digital downloads are the future and steam is by far the best. Hell the new tomb raider wasn't even released as a physical copy only digital.

 

[Vader AL]

I am almost positive steam has came out and said if they went out of business they would release a way for you to play your games with out steam. That being said steam won't go out of business. Digital downloads are the future and steam is by far the best. Hell the new tomb raider wasn't even released as a physical copy only digital.

I just clicked the order button from Amazon UK for the physical copy of Tomb Raider for the PC. Yep, no USA physical copy release so I had to order from the UK.

 

[Deckard]

I am almost positive steam has came out and said if they went out of business they would release a way for you to play your games with out steam. That being said steam won't go out of business. Digital downloads are the future and steam is by far the best. Hell the new tomb raider wasn't even released as a physical copy only digital.

It's like being in the 80s and asking what if this computer fad doesn't last? Check out how many games are on STEAM, they get a piece of all of that. Pretty much the only way they'd go under would be if people stopped buying new games altogeather. It's also why theres no HL or Portal 3. TF2 has the largest video game economy according to Forbes and it's been out for 10 years. Valve doesn't even need to put out a game every 10 years to remain one of the top 3 developers.

The only drawback I can fathom would be having your internet shut off, but if you can't pay your bills, Video Games shouldn't be a priority.

 

[Vader AL]

It's like being in the 80s and asking what if this computer fad doesn't last? Check out how many games are on STEAM, they get a piece of all of that. Pretty much the only way they'd go under would be if people stopped buying new games altogeather. It's also why theres no HL or Portal 3. TF2 has the largest video game economy according to Forbes and it's been out for 10 years. Valve doesn't even need to put out a game every 10 years to remain one of the top 3 developers.

The only drawback I can fathom would be having your internet shut off, but if you can't pay your bills, Video Games shouldn't be a priority.

Yeah Steam's overhead, and I know nothing about their business model, has to be super low and they get a cut of game sales. Don't see them ever going anywhere.

 

[Deckard]

Yea, seems like a client update like once or twice a month at most. Aside from that all they have to do is add other's games and content users submit from the STEAM Workshop and they get some of that money too.

 

[Jen]

Here's a little blurb from an article about some other ending connections.

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It is worth mentioning that the events in BioShock 2 directly mirror those in Infinite, with a father figure on a mission to save his daughter, whose powers are being abused. Then there’s the fact that the abbreviation of Booker Dewitt, BD, is also for “Big Daddy.” And let’s not forget that Elizabeth is referred to as the Lamb, while the daughter in BioShock 2 is named…Eleanor Lamb.

 

[CultofSkaro]

It's not that people don't want to discuss it you just kind of **** on the games he listed. Making them sound way less superior than Bioshock, because Bioshock has a much more "intelligent" story. Do I agree with Bioshock having intelligent stories? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean that any game with a smart story isn't as good. Fallout doesn't have a deep and confusing plot, its rather simple but it does a hell of a job of telling a good story. I kind of look at it like movies. Some of my favorite movies have insanely confusing story lines and I enjoy that alot, but their are plenty of movies that are straight forward that I would say that are just as good if not better.

My main problem was with him listing Gears of War. Because that's one of the most bland VG stories of all time. Fallout is top notch, Halo is a pretty deep universe so I can understand being drawn into it, and I've always enjoyed Dead Space. But Gears of War is just awful. To continue your movie comparison, it's like saying that Transformers 2 has just as good a story as (for example) Inception. To me, GOW has very few redeeming features - it's just weak character after weak character, cliche after cliche.

But anyway. I'd agree Rapture is more messed up than Columbia. Columbia has the remnants of a functioning society, Rapture didn't. And the 'bosses' in that game were nutjobs. And the whole concept of Big Daddies and Little Sisters was messed up, too. Though Handymen are pretty weird, and Skyhooking people in the face is pretty horrific. Infact, I'd say almost TOO horrific - it's kind of jarring with the subtlety of the rest of the game. Then again, I suppose that's to show Booker off as a bit of a nut, which makes sense.

 

[snappahead]

My main problem was with him listing Gears of War. Because that's one of the most bland VG stories of all time. Fallout is top notch, Halo is a pretty deep universe so I can understand being drawn into it, and I've always enjoyed Dead Space. But Gears of War is just awful. To continue your movie comparison, it's like saying that Transformers 2 has just as good a story as (for example) Inception. To me, GOW has very few redeeming features - it's just weak character after weak character, cliche after cliche.

But anyway. I'd agree Rapture is more messed up than Columbia. Columbia has the remnants of a functioning society, Rapture didn't. And the 'bosses' in that game were nutjobs. And the whole concept of Big Daddies and Little Sisters was messed up, too. Though Handymen are pretty weird, and Skyhooking people in the face is pretty horrific. Infact, I'd say almost TOO horrific - it's kind of jarring with the subtlety of the rest of the game. Then again, I suppose that's to show Booker off as a bit of a nut, which makes sense.

Nothing wrong with disagreeing with people. It'd be boring if we all agreed. We just need to respect other peoples opinions.

 

[The Josh]

Here's a little blurb from an article about some other ending connections.

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It is worth mentioning that the events in BioShock 2 directly mirror those in Infinite, with a father figure on a mission to save his daughter, whose powers are being abused. Then there’s the fact that the abbreviation of Booker Dewitt, BD, is also for “Big Daddy.” And let’s not forget that Elizabeth is referred to as the Lamb, while the daughter in BioShock 2 is named…Eleanor Lamb.

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Damn! That is pretty awesome if they meant to do that. These stories are totally a mind fudge. It's the part of them that I like so much.

 

[SwedishHeat]

Just finished the game.

The jump scare got me really, really bad. I'm sure part of it was that it was 2 AM, dark and rainy outside, but. . . I had to take a break after that. I was shaking. . . .yeah, it was pretty bad.

I'm really impressed with the story altogether, taken as a whole unit with Bioshock, I haven't read all about explaining the ending and whatnot, but I will say the twist

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with Booker being Comstock, I don't even think was supposed to be a twist. . . or at least wasn't supposed to be a surprise. Once you introduce a plot element of alternate universes and a man trying to save a girl from a father figure, there's like a 95% chance the hero ends up being the alt bad guy. That's just something they teach in Storytelling 101, it's on the final, so make sure you study.

I will say that ending was very well-crafted as none of it really surprised me, moreso in the sense that everything just clicked together. It's like when you have all the puzzle pieces laid out and you're putting some of them together, then someone shows you the box cover, and you're like "Okay, that makes sense."

But man, the final battle, took me like 8 tries, soooooo frustrating. I called it a night at 5 AM and took a 'nap' then finished the game at 10AM, haha.

 

[snappahead]

Agreed. The end fight was super tough. Theres nothing in the game even close to as crazy as the final fight. I guess thats how it should be.

 

[CultofSkaro]

I went through the game on Hard difficulty the first time and, for the most part, didn't have much trouble with any of it.

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The finale was slightly difficult because I didn't realise that you were meant to use Songbird against the zeppelins - I kept just using him on enemies on the ground, hoping to clear all of those out and THEN go for the zeppelins. Once I realised my mistake, I did it in a couple of tries.

Also, since I was playing the game looking for a twist, it had occured to me several times that Comstock could be Booker.

Running through it on easy difficulty now, finding the last few voxophones, telescopes and those viewing box things I forget the name of.

 

[Darth Vader]

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2 words: Quantum Physics in the world there exists variations with everything, it's called the Multiverse our solar system is HUGE and there is million of planets etc. Ken Levine has said how much of a history and science buff he is.