Black Widow (July 9, 2021)

[jye4ever]

Ovitz ruined the industry far more than Eisner. Both are brutal.

 

[matticus]

https://www.ign.com/articles/wonder-woman-1984-streaming-release-patty-jenkins-comments

 

[Zurdo95D]

Spoiler

 

[loki2371]

Exclusive: Scarlett Johansson's Desired Payday For Black Widow Revealed

Scarlett is having delusions of grandeur....

 

[jedibear]

Saw this doubled-featured with Shang Chi over the weekend.

Really disappointing. What a sad coda for a character that was actually pretty cool during her long run in the MCU. So many other story possibilities that were sprinkled along the way in other MCU movies and they were all ignored in favor of this? Just sad.

 

[Victοr]

Exclusive: Scarlett Johansson's Desired Payday For Black Widow Revealed

Scarlett is having delusions of grandeur....

What... How... In what world...

 

[Zurdo95D]

 

[greygoose]

Exclusive: Scarlett Johansson's Desired Payday For Black Widow Revealed

Scarlett is having delusions of grandeur....

Got to feel for her - only $20 million upfront.

 

[Dave_W]

20 mil is enough for anybody but that's not the point. It's not about the amount, it's about what you are owed and that all comes down to what's in the contract. Both parties know what was agreed and I'm sure they know the D+ numbers. If you equate 1 D+ view per account to at least 1 ticket, you can calculate what the box office might have been.

 

[loki2371]

If you read the article, she & her team claims that Black Widow would've made in excess of $1billion if it was a theater only release. And she wants to be compensated based on that amount. That's just outright delusional.

Disney is in the wrong in this situation, but now she just sounds like an arrogant tool thinking her movie would've broken a billion. Maybe, just maybe if this was released pre-pandemic and still riding on the Endgame hype would it have broken $1 billion. Spidey FFH made just over $1 billion. Black Widow is NOT Spider-Man.

I haven't seen it, but it never really looked all that interesting or good to me from day one. Still waiting for it to be free on D+. I can wait as long as they'd like.

 

[darth dennis]

If you read the article, she & her team claims that Black Widow would've made in excess of $1billion if it was a theater only release. And she wants to be compensated based on that amount. That's just outright delusional.

Disney is in the wrong in this situation, but now she just sounds like an arrogant tool thinking her movie would've broken a billion. Maybe, just maybe if this was released pre-pandemic and still riding on the Endgame hype would it have broken $1 billion. Spidey FFH made just over $1 billion. Black Widow is NOT Spider-Man.

I haven't seen it, but it never really looked all that interesting or good to me from day one. Still waiting for it to be free on D+. I can wait as long as they'd like.

I have to assume that her and her attorneys are speculating high in the interest of maximizing any payout from the lawsuit. Whether she believes it would've made a billion or not, why would she not target that neighborhood during the lawsuit process? Yeah, 20 million up front is good but this was her one shot at leading a solo film so whatever was negotiated is what she should've been paid. Seems Disney could've adjusted the deal before release to account for D+... Again, multi-millionaire versus multi-billion dollar company, so hard to really care a lot

 

[jye4ever]

Rule # 1 of any negotiation start really HIGH or Start really TOUGH then relax your stance as negotiations move forward.

I guess people didn’t read any of Trump’s books on business it is his core method of operation.

 

[loki2371]

Rule # 1 of any negotiation start really HIGH or Start really TOUGH then relax your stance as negotiations move forward.

I guess people didn’t read any of Trump’s books on business it is his core method of operation.

Yeah, of course. But this is a different type of case. When it's a high profile entertainer, she's not winning any new fans by coming across as arrogant and acting like an "entitled" rich white women. This isn't a business suing a business. She herself is her brand and needs people to be on her side. Now she's just coming off looking greedy and arrogant.

This lawsuit is about Disney doing what's right in compensating her by what her original contract stated. This is a precedent for the entertainment industry to stop screwing over the talent. What ever her backend contractual payout deal was % wise to box office gross, that's all she should be pursuing in compensation. To be entitled to that same percent of D+ sales, not imaginary "what if" BO numbers. That is where she comes off as no longer fighting for promised compensation, but being a greedy rich person looking for more money than she is actually entitled to. A jury/the public would most likely side with her for compensation she is due, but asking for a percentage of money never even realized is just being an fine fellow. She now looks no better than Disney.

It's now greedy entertainment mogul vs greedy entertainer.

 

[greygoose]

I do wonder if her character hadn't been killed off would she still be suing them...

She may aswell milk Disney for all the $ she can now.

 

[loki2371]

Her Black Widow character could've still had legs if Disney wished, regardless of her death in Endgame. It didn't stop them from making this movie. They could've still made more "prequel movies" expanding her character's history before she was in Iron Man 2 and the events there after.

That is if this was a success....

Rumors are Brie Larson is replacing Scarjo in that Tower of Terror Disney movie since she has been disavowed by the mouse...

Way to go Brie!! Nice to back up your fellow MCU actors and actors in general.

 

[Sassafras]

Yeah, of course. But this is a different type of case. When it's a high profile entertainer, she's not winning any new fans by coming across as arrogant and acting like an "entitled" rich white women. This isn't a business suing a business. She herself is her brand and needs people to be on her side. Now she's just coming off looking greedy and arrogant.

This lawsuit is about Disney doing what's right in compensating her by what her original contract stated. This is a precedent for the entertainment industry to stop screwing over the talent. What ever her backend contractual payout deal was % wise to box office gross, that's all she should be pursuing in compensation. To be entitled to that same percent of D+ sales, not imaginary "what if" BO numbers. That is where she comes off as no longer fighting for promised compensation, but being a greedy rich person looking for more money than she is actually entitled to. A jury/the public would most likely side with her for compensation she is due, but asking for a percentage of money never even realized is just being an *******. She now looks no better than Disney.

It's now greedy entertainment mogul vs greedy entertainer.

Yeah, but if the greedy entertainment mogul hadn't fronted the movie in the first place, there wouldn't even be a discussion. Anyway I still haven't watched this. Was gonna cough up the 30$ but then - nah.
Am sure it's fine. Am not spoiled yet either. Or is that possible? Nat fights people and then goes to find Cap I guess.

But it's not the Hawkeye/Bucky/Fury Natasha-gets-shot-and-converted movie I wanted, still feels like something done *because*. I'd have been throwing money at a prequel. And I usually hate prequels.

 

[Bleah]

I only got to watch this for free from somebody that has this streaming account for pirated stuff. I'd want to have access to that but at the same time I'd be paranoid of using it.

Anyway, I wouldn't pay to watch this movie. It was meh at best.

 

[jye4ever]

Yeah, but if the greedy entertainment mogul hadn't fronted the movie in the first place, there wouldn't even be a discussion. Anyway I still haven't watched this. Was gonna cough up the 30$ but then - nah.
Am sure it's fine. Am not spoiled yet either. Or is that possible? Nat fights people and then goes to find Cap I guess.

But it's not the Hawkeye/Bucky/Fury Natasha-gets-shot-and-converted movie I wanted, still feels like something done *because*. I'd have been throwing money at a prequel. And I usually hate prequels.

There is none of what you seek you will find only a lame BW program and a lawsuit that has more stakes than the actual movie.

Avoid at all costs.

 

[Neal136]

It comes out on blu-ray on Tuesday and should be "free" on Disney+ soon enough. If you still have reservations about paying at this point, the wait isn't much longer.

 

[JMT1979]

No way BW would get to $1b without a China release. Take that portion out and you'd get a more realistic maximum box office.

I don't really care who wins as long as whoever is contractually in the right wins.