Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017) *SPOILERS*

[Khev]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Khev, here's my original review...

Thanks for reposting. A very well put review.

Agreed about young Deckard and Batty being a better duo. They're definitely icons of the genre. Always tough to follow in such footsteps especially with Deckard getting so little screen time in this one. But even though Jyn Erso was no Han, Luke or Leia I knew RO was something special when I saw it and I feel similarly with BR 2049. To K's credit I did find him to be more relatable than Deckard (young and old) and really felt for his gut-wrenching plight. And that really goes a long way for me.

I just love that for such a massive production it was such "unforgiving sci-fi." It was totally fine with people not "getting it" and just gave you that world and story regardless of whether most in the audience could handle it or not. I absolutely felt like aside from the modern visuals this was absolutely a movie that I could have seen in the early 80's (especially with that SCORE, it was so good.)

But yeah, I need to see it again (and again and again) to fully wrap my head around everything.

 

[Khev]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

I'm right there with you. I realize the themes and overall mood of 2049 couldn't exist without the exemplary setup of the original, but I definitely enjoyed the sequel more. I personally connected to it's characters more than I did with those of the original. That and I found K's inner struggle with his existence much more palpable.

Definitely!

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Thanks for reposting. A very well put review.

Agreed about young Deckard and Batty being a better duo. They're definitely icons of the genre. Always tough to follow in such footsteps especially with Deckard getting so little screen time in this one. But even though Jyn Erso was no Han, Luke or Leia I knew RO was something special when I saw it and I feel similarly with BR 2049. To K's credit I did find him to be more relatable than Deckard (young and old) and really felt for his gut-wrenching plight. And that really goes a long way for me.

I just love that for such a massive production it was such "unforgiving sci-fi." It was totally fine with people not "getting it" and just gave you that world and story regardless of whether most in the audience could handle it or not. I absolutely felt like aside from the modern visuals this was absolutely a movie that I could have seen in the early 80's (especially with that SCORE, it was so good.)

But yeah, I need to see it again (and again and again) to fully wrap my head around everything.

Yeah, it's amazing it got made, and I'm very appreciative of that. With the box office failure, I'm really worried it might signal a drought of intelligent, epically scaled sci-fi, then again, I suppose there's always been a drought, hasn't there?

It absolutely felt like a throwback to another time in cinema, it took its time to tell its story and didn't talk down to the audience. I would have liked to see this movie in 2 parts, because while it took its time, I also would have loved for an even deeper delving into that world. Perhaps this story could have ended with locating Deckard. But sadly, had it been made that way, we might have never gotten the follow-up.

 

[DFanatic]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Is anyone else here upset about the fact that nobody picked up Deckard's blaster once K drops it by the water?

 

[Adolfo]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Yeah, it's amazing it got made, and I'm very appreciative of that. With the box office failure, I'm really worried it might signal a drought of intelligent, epically scaled sci-fi, then again, I suppose there's always been a drought, hasn't there?

It absolutely felt like a throwback to another time in cinema, it took its time to tell its story and didn't talk down to the audience. I would have liked to see this movie in 2 parts, because while it took its time, I also would have loved for an even deeper delving into that world. Perhaps this story could have ended with locating Deckard. But sadly, had it been made that way, we might have never gotten the follow-up.

It was like a Sci Fi Citizen Kane

 

[karamazov80]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

It was like a Sci Fi Citizen Kane

Nice film, but. . .let's not go crazy here.

 

[xipotec]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

I will never understand Citizen Kane....

It's crazy boring.
I guess I am a uncivilized animal.....


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[EVILFACE]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Nice film, but. . .it'll be forgotten about once The Last Jedi changes the known world.

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

It was like a Sci Fi Citizen Kane

I can't really say, since I never saw Citizen Kane, just could never bring myself to watch it. Still, this sounds like hyperbole.

 

[Khev]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Nice film, but. . .it'll be forgotten about once The Last Jedi changes the known world.

Citizen Kane forgotten once The Last Jedi is finally released? I hadn't considered that but you're probably right.

 

[Khev]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Yeah, it's amazing it got made, and I'm very appreciative of that. With the box office failure, I'm really worried it might signal a drought of intelligent, epically scaled sci-fi, then again, I suppose there's always been a drought, hasn't there?

It absolutely felt like a throwback to another time in cinema, it took its time to tell its story and didn't talk down to the audience. I would have liked to see this movie in 2 parts, because while it took its time, I also would have loved for an even deeper delving into that world. Perhaps this story could have ended with locating Deckard. But sadly, had it been made that way, we might have never gotten the follow-up.

Yes I was definitely on board for more of that story/world as well but if the current movie is bombing with Deckard in it just imagine how much worse it would have performed if he only appeared in the final scene. It'd be like another failed Terminator reboot. At least 2049's "open" ending was still a satisfying resolution of sorts. And it kind of echoes the first film since instead of wondering how things will turn out with Deckard and Rachael after Batty expires in the rain we now get to

Spoiler

wonder how things will turn out for Deckard and his daughter as K dies in the snow.

 

[Sachiel]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

I will never understand Citizen Kane....

Innovative filmmaking.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Yeah, that movie represented a seismic shift in what filmmaking could be. You're doing yourself a disservice if you don't see it.

 

[xipotec]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Yeah, that movie represented a seismic shift in what filmmaking could be. You're doing yourself a disservice if you don't see it.

I only got though it once.....and I was pretty unimpressed.
Maybe I need to rewatch through the lens of the time it was made.

Like the Wizard of Oz.


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[Wor-Gar]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

I only got though it once.....and I was pretty unimpressed.
Maybe I need to rewatch through the lens of the time it was made.

Like the Wizard of Oz.

You have to watch it for visual technique, lens choice, camera angles, fades, cuts, time shifts, foreground/background composition, etc, as well as the non-linear narrative. Everything we take for granted now as film language was essentially created in Citizen Kane. It's hard to watch because we all understand the language now, but at the time it was very innovative and complex. Just a simple thing like jump cuts to demonstrate time passing were unheard of in 1941 as in the dining room table passage of time scene - where the table lengthens as the distance grows between the two characters over time. The constant changing in time within the narrative was also revolutionary. With the exception of flashbacks and dream sequences, movies back then relied mostly on linear story-telling. Citizen Kane's story jumps all over the place though time so Welles had to come up with visual cues and "language" to keep the audience informed where and when they were in the story.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Citizen Kane forgotten once The Last Jedi is finally released? I hadn't considered that but you're probably right.

Huh?

 

[Kamandi]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

..... I would have liked to see this movie in 2 parts, because while it took its time, I also would have loved for an even deeper delving into that world. Perhaps this story could have ended with locating Deckard. But sadly, had it been made that way, we might have never gotten the follow-up.

I've seen too many movies in recent years perform world-building for a franchise's sake. I'm happy 2049 was reasonably self-contained and honestly don't want to see another sequel. I was surprised that I enjoyed 2049, I thought the original BR was a perfect film that didn't need a follow-up. It's OK to say "The End" once in a while and mean it. I don't want this going the way of Alien with a sh-t ton of crappy sequels, cross-overs and spin-offs.

 

[rushmore223]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

I've seen too many movies in recent years perform world-building for a franchise's sake. I'm happy 2049 was reasonably self-contained and honestly don't want to see another sequel. I was surprised that I enjoyed 2049, I thought the original BR was a perfect film that didn't need a follow-up. It's OK to say "The End" once in a while and mean it. I don't want this going the way of Alien with a sh-t ton of crappy sequels, cross-overs and spin-offs.

I agree it wasn't a necessary sequel, but I guess expanding the world helped to whet my appetite for more.

 

[SNIKT1950]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

Blade Runner 2049 definitely joins the ranks of T2, ALIENS, The Empire Strikes Back and Godfather Part II as a sequel that shockingly and impressively, surpasses the masterful original.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017)

didn't happen with aliens or t2. . . or this film for that matter. But, worthy sequels all.

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