Blade Runner 2049 (October 6th, 2017) *SPOILERS*

[Darth Snoopy]

Saw this movie again this weekend and it's definitely one of my favorites. I especially loved Ana de Armas' character "Joi" even more.

It doesn't hurt that Ana is just so gorgeous to look at.

 

[Khev]

When you think about it she actually adequately held her own in a story where everyone was expecting and hoping for more HARRISON FORD. No small feat there on her part.

 

[a-dev]

For me it was ''wow, this has all been good stuff and I still have Harrison Ford to look forward to, awesome''. And then



The goosebumpage was strong with this one.

 

[RIDDICK]

I want my own Joi. She really appealed to the internal white knight T'was heartbreaking when she 'died'.

Awww... That's cute.

I love scenes where you wonder if she's indeed sentient and sincere. And then they show a giant advert hologram of her... and you know it was just her programing, even tho it was part of what pushed K to do the right thing. Great additing to the main theme's build up.

 

[generalszabo]

Who'd have thought when this film was announced that we'd be debating whether it was better than the original sometimes lightning does strike twice and whilst it will never be the original it is still a fantastic companion piece - direction, vision, acting, all of it

 

[TaliBane]

Who'd have thought when this film was announced that we'd be debating whether it was better than the original sometimes lightning does strike twice and whilst it will never be the original it is still a fantastic companion piece - direction, vision, acting, all of it

I liked BR 2049 a lot, but it didn't come close to the power of BR for me (I guess nostalgia plays a role in that though.)

The more complicated world of mixtures of replicants and lots (thousands? millions?) of replicants made things a bit murky to understand vs how simple it was in BR (replicants only off-world, dangerous, any on earth are hunted/killed.)

I intellectually liked the twist that Gosling wasn't the child, but it did kinda emotionally deflate the last quarter of the movie for me.

It still shocks me they expected this movie to be some kind of a blockbuster at the box office - given what BR is, it was never going to be that.

 

[generalszabo]

Yep, for it to be a true sequel it should be hated for years after so it's failed in that regard with the original it is not only a great film on its own but you have to take context into account also - numerous films have copied the themes it introduced, and for the time it was visionary IMO

 

[Johnny Utah]

******* Sylvia Hoeks was an incredible villain in this. Her final scene is haunting. It's cool watching the early scenes with K knowing he's going to drown her.

 

[Khev]

******* Sylvia Hoeks was an incredible villain in this. Her final scene is haunting. It's cool watching the early scenes with K knowing he's going to drown her.

There were so many gorgeously photographed shots in BR 2049 but the one shot of her targeting the scavengers with the drone while getting her nails done might be my favorite from the film. And on a side note it's kind of cool that she shares the same nationality (Dutch) as Rutger Hauer before her.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

When you think about it she actually adequately held her own in a story where everyone was expecting and hoping for more HARRISON FORD. No small feat there on her part.

Agreed. Her acting was, IMO, excellent.

 

[Matt S]

Saw this finally. Really enjoyed it, but damn it was slow paced.

 

[TaliBane]

Saw this finally. Really enjoyed it, but damn it was slow paced.

I posted this when I first saw it, but a woman sitting behind us called out "what the hell was THAT...? as the credits rolled - and said she'd fallen asleep in the last 20 mins of it.

 

[Adolfo]

Saw this finally. Really enjoyed it, but damn it was slow paced.

I posted this when I first saw it, but a woman sitting behind us called out "what the hell was THAT...? as the credits rolled - and said she'd fallen asleep in the last 20 mins of it.

Blade runner is a real mans film...some just cant cut thru the mustard

 

[TaliBane]

Blade runner is a real mans film...some just cant cut thru the mustard

We did argue with that rude patron, but you really don't want to engage those kinds of peeps too much.

 

[Wor-Gar]

They might have the death sentence on 12 systems.

 

[TaliBane]

They might have the death sentence on 12 systems.

The dude I saw in a seat-kicking meltdown at the Avco back in the day definitely did.

 

[a-dev]

Awww... That's cute.

I love scenes where you wonder if she's indeed sentient and sincere. And then they show a giant advert hologram of her... and you know it was just her programing, even tho it was part of what pushed K to do the right thing. Great additing to the main theme's build up.

Conceivably she was like Uncle Bob, capable of learning beyond her stock programming and what we saw was a much more evolved version of her. I've always interpreted the T-800 in T2 as never actually developing genuine emotion - he merely came to understand what circumstances lead to what emotions in humans. To me, when he says ''I know now why you cry, but it's something I can never do'' he's using a metaphor - he's not saying he is unable to cry but he would if he could - he's saying ''I get it, I know why you're crying...but I cannot feel what you're feeling''. He was letting John down gently. Now, others don't see it that way and think he was saying he literally cannot cry....which makes no sense to me, because he would need to have tear ducts - their purpose is to keep eyes lubricated, no?

Anyway going back to Joi - unlike the T-800 she's specifically programmed to emote....you're still left with the question of ''can that be considered real?''

Saw this finally. Really enjoyed it, but damn it was slow paced.

Like the first film it requires your willingness to sit and immerse yourself in the world so that even if no action is currently taking place you're too wrapped up in what you're seeing and hearing to be bored. I think they did the right thing in keeping it that way for 2049. The alternative would have been a sequel like Terminator Genisys compared directly to the original Terminator - or Die Hard 5 compared to the first - where it's clear they don't even get the point of the original anymore. The tone is gone, the (relative) realism is gone, the action is cartoon-like and overall it might aswell be a complete reboot and not a continuation.

By the way, I say this having never really been a fan of BladeRunner. My most recent viewing was maybe the first time I didn't fall asleep watching it. I gave it another try due to this film and I'm glad I did.

 

[TaliBane]

BR is like Alien - it's a fully immersive world-building exercise that's interesting just to "be" in, even when not much is going on. You can kind of look around and be entertained to some degree.

Though I did feel that epic BR grandness/loneliness/sadness more in BR than in BR 2049. The world's not quite as clearly delineated in BR 2049 (I found a number of things consistently confusing,) but it was still a great match to the spirit and vibe of the original film.

I did think HF was a little wasted, but frankly, his "older persona" I don't find as engaging, so I didn't need more of him. He played the sort of grouchy, cynical guy when he was younger (that made Indy and Han soar,) and now that he's old it's too much - most old guys are like that. It's like watching James Woods play a con-man.

 

[Ehollywood]

My little tribute art for the movie

 

[Popnfresh98]

My little tribute art for the movie

Nicely done! Quite a piece

BR is like Alien - it's a fully immersive world-building exercise that's interesting just to "be" in, even when not much is going on. You can kind of look around and be entertained to some degree.

Though I did feel that epic BR grandness/loneliness/sadness more in BR than in BR 2049. The world's not quite as clearly delineated in BR 2049 (I found a number of things consistently confusing,) but it was still a great match to the spirit and vibe of the original film.

I did think HF was a little wasted, but frankly, his "older persona" I don't find as engaging, so I didn't need more of him. He played the sort of grouchy, cynical guy when he was younger (that made Indy and Han soar,) and now that he's old it's too much - most old guys are like that. It's like watching James Woods play a con-man.

Agree with all the points here, bang on