Boba fett premium format

[Bullseye]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Just because you spend a lot of money on it doesn't make one opinion more valid.

I agree but how could someone refer to me as a SS basher when i spend alot of my income on their product. Because thats the feeling i'm getting if I have any concern i wish to voice.

 

[Kookie]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Its a shame that the negative side cannot except the word of SS employees. I would consider myself on the negative side about the use of ABS but would not question the word of an employee. You have to have trust between a company and its customers.

Its equally sad that legitimate concerns about the use of plastic is belittled by many of the fan boys on here. I'm betting most of them have not spent 1/4 what i have on SS products. But then i don't limit myself to SS either.

When you have spent close to $30 - $40k you might understand that I have a legitimate right to be concerned with the direction in using this ABS material.

This will be my last word on the topic as more than likely my comments will be jumped on by the FB and not defended by the administration here.

I think the reason this whole thing doesn't both me is because Boba Fett seems to be an isolated product based on the complexity of the armor and cloth integration. Darth Maul looks to go back to the "norm" for PF Figures. Maul will clearly be polystone. In the future, if the only choice for a cool looking Stormtrooper is to create the armor in plastic, so be it (that's based on the knowledge that a Stormtrooper could not be created otherwise). Sideshow always takes our feedback to heart and I think they will be more inclined to know in the future if a character with a mix of cloth and armor needs a similar Boba Fett treatment. I also think they will notify us in the future if they believe the product could have plastic parts based on the reaction to Fett. I truly believe Sideshow will do everything in their power to create a quality item that we will love. For all the hundreds of pieces that Sideshow has produced, I think there will always be new challenges Sideshow will face and I think Boba was one of those challenges. The good news is that with the knowledge Sideshow learned from producing Fett we may see more armored characters sooner than expected.

 

[Bullseye]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

The body issue is the part I kind of was suprised with. The armor makes sense. You have a right to be concerned and those concerns have been answered by SS. Everyone should be chilling out till it arrives.

I agree 100%. I am still undecided what i want to do. I do not want to encourage SS to continue on this path yet i still love the actual look of the piece. But looks are only part of collecting IMO.

 

[The Josh]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I agree but how could someone refer to me as a SS basher when i spend alot of my income on their product. Because thats the feeling i'm getting if I have any concern i wish to voice.

I don't know man. I don't look at someone who voices concern as a SS Basher. If someone does that's great they're doing what they feel. It does puzzle me when people say SS ripping them off, bait and switching, lying, etc.

I agree 100%. I am still undecided what i want to do. I do not want to encourage SS to continue on this path yet i still love the actual look of the piece. But looks are only part of collecting IMO.

The thing is the name of the format is Premium Format and not polystone format. Though, I understand for some they consider ABS not a premium format. I don't agree but I understand.

 

[outlikealight]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I agree 100%. I am still undecided what i want to do. I do not want to encourage SS to continue on this path yet i still love the actual look of the piece. But looks are only part of collecting IMO.

If your undecided Bulls the best route would be to get it and then send it back if you are not happy. I have voiced a lot of concern over this change but I really hope it is awesome. If it is we will be getting a lot of cool stuff in the future like Sormtroopers and Clone Troopers.

Out

 

[outlikealight]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Yup, that's what I think as well. Brant has come here and said why they did what they did. Some of the ways it's been worded IMO is calling him a liar. I know Brant well enough to know this is not the case.

I think that perhaps this comment can be directed at me and I would like to explain. I have never met anyone on the Sideshow staff but my limited contact with them has always been very pleasant. I realize that Brant has posted an explanation in another thread about the issue of replacing the polystone with plastic. I expressed that while it was nice of him to respond there are a few things people need to keep in mind. 1) No company is going to publicly state they made a change to a product to make more money and not pass the savings along to us. That would look very bad. 2) They have to say somthing because silence is just as bad. 3) This one is very important, Any public proclamations by a Sideshow employee about a product on this board has been approved or sent down by higher ups.
He could be telling the absolute truth or he could be spouting the company line. We don't know.
Business and Friendships are like Politics and Religion. Many times they do not mix.
I am not going to call someone I don't know a liar. At the same time you really have no idea if Sideshow is telling the truth or not. I don't feel my points are out of line but I am sorry if they offended you or anyone else.

Once again I will state that I have had A LOT of Sideshow product in and out of my house. I hope to continue to do so. I hope that the PF FETT is awesome. But this whole situation has left a bad taste in my mouth.

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[Darklord Dave]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Just to clarify - SSC is a very closed mouth company. They don't share about stuff that's in development, they don't usually tell you when a line is finished, they don't solicit input about how and what and why they should do certain products.

If they were trying to be dishonest they would have not said anything at all about how Fett was produced. Probably a couple of people would have noticed and commented when they received their PF, but it wouldn't have gone beyond that. The figure would be in hand, everyone would see how great it is and that would be that. If they had added some lead to the ABS body so the weight was right, no one would even notice. I think we all expected the armor and outside pieces to be ABS anyway.

But in the interest of full disclosure they made the announcement in time so that anyone who had a problem with the materials being used could cancel. And if they're actually saving money on production that's where it would have ended. No more communication - if you aren't happy - cancel.

But Brant took the time to explain why it had to be done this way. If they were trying to hide anything there would have been no follow-up whatsoever.

 

[mfoga]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

In the future, if the only choice for a cool looking Stormtrooper is to create the armor in plastic, so be it (that's based on the knowledge that a Stormtrooper could not be created otherwise).

I still belive a polystone strormtrooper is MUCH easier then Boba Fett. You have to remember there is a big difference between Boba and the Troopers armour. Boba has very little armor that attaches to a lose fitting suit. The troopers would need very little cloth since the majority of the body is cover with Armor. I belive that what will be done is the entire thing will be carved from Poly then where the under suit shows the will add black cloth to cover those areas. Spiderman and Captin America are perfect examples of this and they have much more cloth the a trooper will have. I belive that the platic is more of a one time thing due to the nature of Boba's armor.

 

[kodiak8658]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

WOW...I AM VERY IMPRESSED!!!

Before my friends father died he used to call me Kooky based on that person. My friends thought he said Kookie and the name stuck. The funny thing is that I really don't know who that person was. I will look up that name, Abbie Normal...thanks!!!

Abbie Normal (Abnormal) was the label on the brain Marty Feldman stole for Dr. Frankenstein in Young Frankenstein. That's a joke son!!

The guy that did the song Kookie, Lend Me Your Comb is Edd Byrnes.

 

[BadMoon]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

OMG. All of you pull your thumbs out of your mouth and just stop. This is sad. I have come back all day to see what is going on and you are still on this. DROP IT!!!

 

[MaulFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

OMG. All of you pull your thumbs out of your mouth and just stop. This is sad. I have come back all day to see what is going on and you are still on this. DROP IT!!!

You'll learn there is no stopping it, your best hope is to try and interject some positivity elsewhere.

 

[kodiak8658]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Just to clarify - SSC is a very closed mouth company. They don't share about stuff that's in development, they don't usually tell you when a line is finished, they don't solicit input about how and what and why they should do certain products.

If they were trying to be dishonest they would have not said anything at all about how Fett was produced. Probably a couple of people would have noticed and commented when they received their PF, but it wouldn't have gone beyond that. The figure would be in hand, everyone would see how great it is and that would be that. If they had added some lead to the ABS body so the weight was right, no one would even notice. I think we all expected the armor and outside pieces to be ABS anyway.

But in the interest of full disclosure they made the announcement in time so that anyone who had a problem with the materials being used could cancel. And if they're actually saving money on production that's where it would have ended. No more communication - if you aren't happy - cancel.

But Brant took the time to explain why it had to be done this way. If they were trying to hide anything there would have been no follow-up whatsoever.

No one is saying Sideshow is purposely misleading their customers. Believe me, when you spend thousands of dollars with a vendor, you won't complain in a forum if you get screwed over, you'll just never do business with that company again.

The debate was over why SS waited to tell people until now and the cost for an all plastic ABS piece as compared to a mixed media piece with polystone, cloth, leather or metal. Switching media when full stride into production isn't done overnight. The process had to have taken months. Being that the item is shipping to Sideshow's warehouse right now, why did they wait to announce the difference at this point and time? Doesn't seem prudent...at this juncture.
I don't feel that question is out of line for a customer to pose to a seller.

Although we very much appreciate a Sideshow representative taking time from their business schedule to explain the company's position in this matter, it doesn't take away from the fact they waited to tell people and according to the forum poll, several people will be cancelling their order because of it. I fear that it seems Brant may have been here for damage control purposes.

If this forum is moderated to the point of alignment with Sideshow's position and opinions, then maybe some of us are in the wrong place. The thread evolved to calling for opinion, and that's what it got.

My apologies but sometimes the truth is hard to swallow and some people cannot in good conscience, bury their heads in the sand. As an administrator, you have to choose the direction you want this forum to go. Choose wisely.

 

[pjam]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Why hasn't anybody said anything about the added head articulation? I think that's a fantastic sign they are thinking about adding more articulation with PF's... and to do that in the future you have to use different materials I would think... maybe a sign of things to come.

Anyway, thought I'd say something positive.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I don't understand all the furor. If you're unhappy about the plastic, say your piece, cancel your order and then move along. It's just a Boba Fett statue, life will go on.

 

[MaulFan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Why hasn't anybody said anything about the added head articulation? I think that's a fantastic sign they are thinking about adding more articulation with PF's... and to do that in the future you have to use different materials I would think... maybe a sign of things to come.

Anyway, thought I'd say something positive.

Actually, it's odd that they just highlight this on their site now, they announced it a long time ago, I think even when the product went up for preorder, I don't remember where, I just know I heard it would be ball jointed long ago.

 

[kodiak8658]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

I don't understand all the furor. If you're unhappy about the plastic, say your piece, cancel your order and then move along. It's just a Boba Fett statue, life will go on.

Perhaps you haven't been reading the many, many posts why. Some things aren't as black and white as your listed choices. This item has been much anticipated for a long, long time now and alot of people have expressed disappointment....ooops. I don't want to ruin the ending. Maybe you should read the posts yourself for the details.

 

[kodiak8658]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Why hasn't anybody said anything about the added head articulation? I think that's a fantastic sign they are thinking about adding more articulation with PF's... and to do that in the future you have to use different materials I would think... maybe a sign of things to come.

Anyway, thought I'd say something positive.

It never hurts to be positive. Hey pjam...how are you? I bought one of my Nazi Kroenens from you, if you're the same pjam from eBay.

 

[kodiak8658]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

OMG. All of you pull your thumbs out of your mouth and just stop. This is sad. I have come back all day to see what is going on and you are still on this. DROP IT!!!

We'll stop holding our guns to your head so you don't have to read about it anymore. Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Perhaps you haven't been reading the many, many posts why. Some things aren't as black and white as your listed choices. This item has been much anticipated for a long, long time now and alot of people have expressed disappointment....ooops. I don't want to ruin the ending. Maybe you should read the posts yourself for the details.

I have read the posts. Guess what? Boba Fett's still gonna be plastic, even if you continue to repeat ad nauseam that you don't like it. There's nothing wrong with people voicing their complaints, but regurgitating that same complaint over and over and over becomes obnoxious.

And yes, the situation is exactly as black and white as the choices I listed.

 

[tomandshell]

Re: 25-30 Days to Fett

Actually, it's odd that they just highlight this on their site now, they announced it a long time ago, I think even when the product went up for preorder, I don't remember where, I just know I heard it would be ball jointed long ago.

As a Fett fanatic, I can assure you that we knew about the articulated head from day one. It's been in the description on the product page. I remember when we first got the QT turnaround, there was some concern that you could see the ball joint from the rear.

But for those who never noticed, it makes a cool last minute surprise!