Captain America 2: The Winter Soldier (SPOILERS)

[ironwez20]

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Man I must be the only one who thought TIH enjoyable. The Harlem fight scene was just great onscreen. Ah well.

 

[Niltusk]

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Man I must be the only one who thought TIH enjoyable. The Harlem fight scene was just great onscreen. Ah well.

I liked it better than Lee's Hulk, but except for IM2, theres nothing else I think I would watch it over in the MCU.

 

[krec9]

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Man I must be the only one who thought TIH enjoyable. The Harlem fight scene was just great onscreen. Ah well.

I liked it I own it on blu ray thought Norton was a better banner then anyone else too.

 

[thenammagazine]

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So, basically; the key to making the greatest movie ever is a formula of "fight scene, joke, fight scene, joke, fight scene, joke, fight scene, joke, rousing speech from old Yiddish dude, fight scene, more jokes, fight scene, yet another joke, fight scene, joke, Coulson dies (LOLZ JK! We're giving the dead Mcguffin his own TV Show!), aaaaaaand, wait for it, yet another fight scene, but, wait, act within the last 5 minutes and you'll get an additional joke! Look! It's superheroes eating Arabic food in a little restaurant (this joke is a callback to an earlier joke!)! And they're still wearing their costumes! Isn't that funny?"

Maybe it's just me, but I was never overly impressed with The Avengers. Was it a fun movie? Absolutely. Was it an entertaining flick? I enjoyed it! Was it the greatest thing in the history of mankind? Nope. The way I see people gush over it; I don't know. I just think it's overrated. I think it succeeded because of circumstance, and, while I'm not saying it wouldn't have been successful otherwise, I think people tend to give it, perhaps, too fair of a shake because of the circumstances it came out under. For one thing, it was the first time we'd seen anything like it. We've seen Superhero movie after Superhero movie, but never a team of superheroes (that were generally known for working alone, that is). For another, I think The Dark Knight had a lot to do with it. People have five years of Batman and emo stalker Superman, and suddenly, everybody loves that a Superhero movie finally knows how to have fun! That being said, that hadn't always been the case. I question whether everyone would be saying "It shows that Superhero movies can be fun and lighthearted" as some sort of reasoning for why it's good, had it came out around the time of, say, Raimi's Spider-Man movies.

I probably should stop before you track my IP address and crucify me in the center of time square, but I don't know; I'm not saying it's not good. I did like it, but I just don't think it set a very high bar is all. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Age of Ultron is the "Empire Strikes Back" of the series, because I don't think it has to do much to top the first one.

As opposed to DC's formula of making the movie "dark and gritty, rooted in realism," where the hero is a sourpussed, emo ***** who shamelessly kills when he needs to and completely contrasts the source material?

 

[ironwez20]

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I was watching Powerpuff girls the other day and everytime they save the city its completely destroyed. They should of just took out super man and his villians, stick the powerpuff girls in there and we have a perfect adaption.

 

[RIDDICK]

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CBM sucks.

All overrated. Too dark. Too light. Too funny. Too serious. Too much action, not enough action.

**** EM ALL.

 

[Adolfo]

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As opposed to DC's formula of making the movie "dark and gritty, rooted in realism," where the hero is a sourpussed, emo ***** who shamelessly kills when he needs to and completely contrasts the source material?

You got it...isnt realism awesome...Human beings man

 

[hunnipot85]

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I liked it I own it on blu ray thought Norton was a better banner then anyone else too.

I'm partial to Bana since he is one of my favorites... I feel like people would have loved him in the role if he had better/more interesting material to work with and if they actually enjoyed the movie. I do think Norton and Ruffalo are good actors too, and did fine in the role also.

 

[batfan08]

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As opposed to DC's formula of making the movie "dark and gritty, rooted in realism," where the hero is a sourpussed, emo ***** who shamelessly kills when he needs to and completely contrasts the source material?

Niltusk and I already sorted that post out. Though I do love that you automatically default to a Marvel vs. DC thing when, if you read the post, I acknowledged that I enjoyed Marvel's films and even admitted to liking The Avengers; in fact, the only time I brought up DC was when I was looking for an example of "dark and gritty" to contrast with The Avengers. As a whole, though, I never touched the Marvel vs. DC thing; you did; what it all came down to was that I think other Marvel movies are better than The Avengers; simple as that.

 

[thenammagazine]

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Niltusk and I already sorted that post out. Though I do love that you automatically default to a Marvel vs. DC thing when, if you read the post, I acknowledged that I enjoyed Marvel's films and even admitted to liking The Avengers; in fact, the only time I brought up DC was when I was looking for an example of "dark and gritty" to contrast with The Avengers. As a whole, though, I never touched the Marvel vs. DC thing; you did; what it all came down to was that I think other Marvel movies are better than The Avengers; simple as that.

Honestly, it's a ****ing shame DC can't embrace the same fantasy aspect Marvel has for their heroes. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll get a JL film that will be as much fun as Avengers was. That said, I think we both long for a day when we're seeing the DC heroes get the same respect (in regards to the source material and character foundation) that the Marvel heroes are getting.

On another note:

So is Natasha Romanoff, aka Black Widow, going to get her own movie or what?

While she has yet to get her own character-based spinoff, the sole female member (for now, anyway) of The Avengers is sharing a large portion of the spotlight in the upcoming "Captain America: The Winter Soldier." The beautiful and deadly agent of S.H.I.E.L.D., played by Scarlett Johansson, gets a lot more screen time in the new "Cap" than she did in either "Iron Man 2" (2010) or "Marvel's The Avengers" (2012)... and a lot more character development.

"I was trying to get them to switch the name of this film for so long. I wanted it to be like 'Captain America (But It's Really a Widow Movie)' in parentheses," Johansson told Yahoo Movies on the red carpet of the "Cap 2" premiere Thursday.
That unofficial title comes from the film shedding some light on the actress' secretive character, with Johansson herself contributing a lot of what makes Black Widow tick (or weave?).

"The most exciting thing about reading and developing this script from early on is I felt like I had a lot of input this time around," said Johansson. "In this film we really get to focus on the relationship between Cap and Widow and learn more about who she is outside of the job. It was fun to incorporate my backstory that I've been developing and finally get a chance to play that here."

That backstory, which involves what Johansson describes as "a sordid past," could be developed even further if Marvel goes forward with a Widow-centric film, something that Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige feels is a possibility and really a matter of timing.

"I think the idea would be great," said Feige at a press conference earlier this week via ComingSoon.net. "We've got various outlines and ideas of where to take that. The question really is, 'When will we take her out of the ensemble and have her do her own thing?' As you saw in ['Captain America: The Winter Soldier'], as you'll see in 'Avengers: Age of Ultron,' she's really the key to so much of the plot development."

Ah, yes... the "Avengers" sequel, opening May 1, 2015. But might all that running, leaping, punching and other superhero-type activities not be the best idea for someone who's, you know, pregnant?

ScarJo herself has said nothing will interfere with any Widow action on "Age of Ultron," without actually addressing the fact that she's expecting her first child with French journalist fiancé Romain Dauriac.

"Everything for 'Avengers 2' ... we're full steam ahead," said a cautious Johansson to Huffington Post. "We start shooting in three weeks and I'm stunt training and we're good to go. You know, I think it's something that is [laughing] hard to talk about, exactly. You know, trying to skirt around your question exactly [laughs] — and, you know, doing a poor job of it. But, you know, like I said, everything is exactly on schedule [Laughs] Everything is going just fine. The Black Widow always wins and will continue to."

No matter what's in store for Natasha in the future, it's nice to know she's now being given more to do than just spew Joss Whedon wisecracks, share vague moments with Hawkeye, and get eyed by Happy Hogan while she changes clothes in the back seat of a car. As she said, she's got a lot of red in her ledger and she'd like to wipe it out.

https://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movi...widow-one-step-closer-her-210652349.html?vp=1

 

[batfan08]

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Honestly, it's a ****ing shame DC can't embrace the same fantasy aspect Marvel has for their heroes. Unfortunately, I don't think we'll get a JL film that will be as much fun as Avengers was. That said, I think we both long for a day when we're seeing the DC heroes get the same respect (in regards to the source material and character foundation) that the Marvel heroes are getting.

I absolutely get the fantasy aspect of it, and I love that about Marvel; I just thought The Avengers veered a little too far into that "fun" category (similar to how DC tends to veer into the "dark and gritty" category. Marvel nailed the perfect formula with Iron Man, and I think, ever since, they've struggled to duplicate it.

 

[thenammagazine]

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I absolutely get the fantasy aspect of it, and I love that about Marvel; I just thought The Avengers veered a little too far into that "fun" category (similar to how DC tends to veer into the "dark and gritty" category. Marvel nailed the perfect formula with Iron Man, and I think, ever since, they've struggled to duplicate it.

With The Incredible Hulk and Iron Man 2, I wholly agree. And there were some WTF issues with Avengers as well. But overall, I had a better time sitting through TIH and IM2 than than I did TDKR and MoS. TDKR convinced me that Nolan didn't get Batman at all (a surprise giving BB was perfection) and was pretty much embarrassed of the character (something even Bale's eluded to post TDKR). And MoS was a soulless Superman film, all the powers and except for a bus scene in the beginning and a small scene at the end included explicitly to justify killing Zod, none of the humanity.

 

[batfan08]

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If both companies were people from High School, Marvel would be the kid who told a perfect joke once and now kind of annoys people with forced humor, and DC would be the goth kid who was edgy in the 90's but now just makes you want to punch him in the face.

 

[cofphoto]

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Anyone else going to an advanced screening on Thursday?

 

[batfan08]

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I'll be seeing it on a Thursday, but not this one, sadly.

 

[jye4ever]

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You mean here in the states, Thursday 4/3?

If so, **** YEAH!

 

[batfan08]

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You mean here in the states, Thursday 4/3?

If so, **** YEAH!

I think he meant the one a few weeks earlier for that Cap social media contest, where 10 cities got advanced screenings for tweeting pics of the poster via the Cap VR app.

 

[jye4ever]

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If both companies were people from High School, Marvel would be the kid who told a perfect joke once and now kind of annoys people with forced humor, and DC would be the goth kid who was edgy in the 90's but now just makes you want to punch him in the face.

I think he meant the one a few weeks earlier for that Cap social media contest, where 10 cities got advanced screenings for tweeting pics of the poster via the Cap VR app.

Oh, that one.

 

[cofphoto]

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LOL, yeah that one. The showing is this Thursday, 3/20. I was just wondering if anyone else was going to one of them.

 

[Johnny Utah]

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Just listened to the score for this. Winter Soldier's theme is damn scary, reminded me of Joker's from TDK. Bring it on!