Captain America: Civil War (May 6, 2016)

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Thought the same thing about Spidey

His presence in the movie was as warranted as WW in BvS. Nothing but fan service.

But I liked Spidey, so it's ok.
 
I'm gonna join team: "pretty damn good film" a lot of great character moments, spectacular action and genuine emotion.

The tone of the film is right smack dab where it should be. It wasnt slapstick and it wasnt grim. The serious moments were never really cheapened by soon to follow humor. And the humor was placed where it should be. Perfect blend to me.
 
I hate how the RT rating is at 91%. The lowest I have seen this film at. I remember when it was at 98 then dropped to 94 then was trending up again, 95, 96,97... I hope after it has been in the U.S. for a while it goes back up. I really hope it finishes well into the mid-high 90's. Especially the consensus is this is Marvel's best, one even said since Iron Man. Winter Soldier is 89%. I figure this should be better. Avengers is at 92 and Iron Man is 94. I know RT scores aren't important, as long as the fans enjoy it and makes money, but a 93-96 would be nice.
 
8/10 Good action sequences and character banter as always.
The film didn't take any risks though at all.

How so? It depends on your version of "risk", to be honest. Is it death? A new direction for the story? A world-shifting event? Folks throw around the word "risk" constantly, but most of the time, they just mean the death of a major character.
 
Thought the same thing about Spidey

His presence in the movie was as warranted as WW in BvS. Nothing but fan service.

But I liked Spidey, so it's ok.

I think it's a little more then just fan service, there was a good plot point of why Tony's team had to recruit Spidey and Black Panther, because Tony's side was lacking in numbers it wasn't an even number fight. If Marvel didn't go with Spidey they still had to think of a different new superhero to fill that spot to make it even, it just so happens they have a high-profile character ready to use. I think the way Spidey is introduced to Marvel is perfect, he wasn't recruited as an Avenger, it was more like a good old 'Spiderman and friends' tag along. After the fight Tony had Aunt May drive him back home, it's better like that then to have Spidey permanently join the Avengers this soon.


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If you're Tony Stark, why in the hell are you...
...recruiting Spider-Kid and putting him in danger, especially after that mother guilt-tripped you about the death of her son? Granted, the kid's got special powers and abilities but Tony put him in harm's way at the airport.
Because he's a hypocrite. Nothing new here.

To his credit, I don't think he actually believed there would have been a fight.
You can see his concern when he came rushing to Peter's side at the first sign that he might have been hurt.
This too. :D


Stark is...
... an absolute madman who should be locked up in the Raft for bringing Peter in cause it proves he's truly without a moral compass. That's so bloody wrong its criminal.
You can't protect everyone and you can't avoid collateral damage all the time.
While Stark is a hypocrite for bringing a teenager, he knew Peter isn't just some kid.
He saw a powered man who's trying to help people first and gave him a simple choice.


His presence in the movie was as warranted as Ant-Man's. Nothing but fan service.
Fixed. :wave
 
Yea I didn't like that woman's role either, she's a weak device used to the make the audience try and understand Tony's rational for siding with the government but it's really a cliche by now and has been done hundreds of times already in other movies.


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In the comics that woman basically played the role of MCU Zemo, she was the one who manipulated the heroes to fight each other by guilt tripping Tony, the whole 'son dying thing' turned out to be fake and orchestrated to get the heroes to fight each other, so the Skrull aliens could invade Earth. They aren't doing that in the MCU so that's why they had to change the characters around a bit.

I'm glad they added her though, but I can see how without that reference she could seem pointless to some. Her addition was pretty cool to see on screen, it makes you think for a second if she has anything to do with the superheroes fighting each other if you're coming from the comicbooks. In similar fashion there was the Harvey Dent court scene in the Dark Knight that plays trick to those who know what happens in the comics.



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In the comics that woman basically played the role of MCU Zemo, she was the one who manipulated the heroes to fight each other by guilt tripping Tony, the whole 'son dying thing' turned out to be fake and orchestrated to get the heroes to fight each other, so the Skrull aliens could invade Earth. They aren't doing that in the MCU so that's why they had to change the characters around a bit.

I'm glad they added her though, but I can see how without that reference she could seem pointless to some. Her addition was pretty cool to see on screen, it makes you think for a second if she has anything to do with the superheroes fighting each other if you're coming from the comicbooks. In similar fashion there was the Harvey Dent court scene in the Dark Knight that plays trick to those who know what happens in the comics.

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Yup.

She was a good callback to this:
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I just saw it in imax 3d. Utterly shocked at how much it didn't mess up the movie. It looked fine the entire time, super bright and never blurry. Although not really meant for 3d. I had the same thought as you when I was told we were seeing it in 3d, it surprised me though.

I thought the 3-D was good too :dunno
 
The theater I was in last night was packed

Mine was sold out for three consecutive showings! Which is kinda nuts, considering it's a theatre in relatively small city in Greece. BvS filled only half the room, and the next showing didn't look as if it had more folks waiting in line. Only this and TFA managed to attract such a crowd in all the years it's been operating. AoU was sold out, but only for the first showing.
 
I have no idea where people who are calling this a 10/10 are coming from. There were just too many problems for this to be perfect. Spider man 2 runs circles around all three cap movies in terms of emotion and plot. This movie was really not that emotional....., it came close but the most emotional scenes were just jumbled with the rest of the plot. Everyone has there opinions though, I thought I was pretty good anyway. Really don't see how everyone shat on Ultron so fast and have no problems with this. If I were to put my money on it this will be regarded as highly over rated in a couple years.

Wut? :lol
 
Also iron-man gets all choked up about a college kid dying in "the incident" and then sends a 15 year old into battle? WTF. (and it seems as though the russos completely forgot spiderman was even in the movie by the end.


Tony wanted to recruit Hulk but he wasn't available, Black Widow wondered if Hulk would even be on their side. Tony didn't just recruit a 15 year old, he was looking for someone more powerful then him, with real superpowers. I think the Russo bros sort of assumed the viewers already know Spidey isn't going to die with his healing power, and didn't try to explain why Tony felt comfortable sending him to fight. If Vision blasted Spidey right in the chest he could have just walked it off, can't say the same about his other teammates though. There was not a single moment when Spidey was put in danger. Vision and Spidey were the only two who were completely harm free during that fight.

After the fight Tony called Aunt May to pick Spidey up, he was done. They had to make a point that Spidey is not an Avenger. He was only tagging along because they were outnumbered. That's how Spidey is usually written in other people's stories, he shows up to help a friend then leaves after the work is done. That's the kind of relationship he has with other Superheroes.


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I liked it a lot, but still think Iron Man and Winter Soldier were better movies. Going to see it again in a few hours, maybe i'll feel different after seeing it a second time on the big screen.
 
I liked it a lot, but still think Iron Man and Winter Soldier were better movies. Going to see it again in a few hours, maybe i'll feel different after seeing it a second time on the big screen.

I liked it better on my second viewing. It's now my favorite MCU film.
 
Tony wanted to recruit Hulk but he wasn't available, Black Widow wondered if Hulk would even be on their side. Tony didn't just recruit a 15 year old, he was looking for someone more powerful then him, with real superpowers. I think the Russo bros sort of assumed the viewers already know Spidey isn't going to die with his healing power, and didn't try to explain why Tony felt comfortable sending him to fight. If Vision blasted Spidey right in the chest he could have just walked it off, can't say the same about his other teammates though. There was not a single moment when Spidey was put in danger. Vision and Spidey were the only two who were completely harm free during that fight.

After the fight Tony called Aunt May to pick Spidey up, he was done. They had to make a point that Spidey is not an Avenger. He was only tagging along because they were outnumbered. That's how Spidey is usually written in other people's stories, he shows up to help a friend then leaves after the work is done. That's the kind of relationship he has with other Superheroes.


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spidey was 100 percent in danger from what I was seeing. They were all in crazy amounts of danger. I just think it all would have played better had it been all the original avengers, and the new guys like wanda and antman. Spiderman and Black Panther added nothing. And them talking around "with great power comes great responsibility " was ridiculous, just say it!

Regardless, as more freaks see this and post on here, I can see I'm not the only one who doesn't think this is a 10/10. Idk why anyone is bringing up BVS besides the fact that they were insanely similar throughout, I don't think I ever rated it higher than this?
 
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