Captain America: Civil War (May 6, 2016)

[jye4ever]

Don't ignore BTTF!!

meh...

 

[Mad Old Lu]

I agree that humming a theme doesn’t equal quality. You could even argue that making a theme hummable makes it cheap and tacky.

That said, I haven’t really liked any of the MCU movies soundtracks (even though I love the movies). They’re all serviceable, but to me they’re pretty forgettable and generic. However, I’ve really LOVED the DCU soundtracks—the Nolan Batman Trilogy and the 2 new Supes movies. I don’t think those have any particularly memorable themes either (except for maybe the Nolan Batman and definitely the WW theme), but they’re overall more stirring and exciting to me. So it’s a legitimate criticism and I do wish the music was better in the Marvel movies. Not more whistle-able, just better.

But those are very interesting points about the directive to make music invisible in movies. I had heard about Danny Elfman’s hatred for temp music—he had said that he butt heads with Raimi wanting Elfman to sound more like the temp music he had chosen. And I knew that there were some bits from various soundtracks that copied each other too. But watching that guy’s examples was still enlightening. So even though the guy started out with that dumb whistle challenge, he still made some good points in his video.

 

[jye4ever]

There are so many great scores that would have failed the "random people on the street" test. I still get goosebumps when the main theme kicks in at the beginning of Conan the Barbarian and practically want to stand up and cheer due to the music when Conan and Subotai are running across the plains.

I forgot CTB didn't I!

FML

 

[Khev]

I’ve really LOVED the DCU soundtracks—the Nolan Batman Trilogy and the 2 new Supes movies. I don’t think those have any particularly memorable themes either (except for maybe the Nolan Batman and definitely the WW theme), but they’re overall more stirring and exciting to me. So it’s a legitimate criticism and I do wish the music was better in the Marvel movies. Not more whistle-able, just better.

I agree that WW's theme is awesome and better than anything from the MCU. I do think that the score in The Winter Soldier is much more than serviceable though, in fact I think it's pretty awesome from beginning to end.

 

[kryptonianmutie]

Isn't that all you really wanted to say though? "I liked the music in Suicide Squad more than [insert any given Marvel movie.]" That video you posted just smacks of biased, agenda driven "I'm going to prove my why opinion is right" internet silliness. All of the "evidence" supporting his claim can easily be shot down. Music is inspired and "risky" if he can find three people on the streets of Vancouver who can hum the tune? How many did he interview? What would he have done if the first person hummed Cap's theme from The First Avenger? Play that person's clip? Yeah right. He gave a tiny, heavily edited example of a few people who support his theory.

Then there's his other examples. TWS had great music but he singles out the Smithsonian narrator who was actually being heard by the characters in the movie itself? Hardly indicative of the entirety of the MCU. That'd be like me showing a five second clip of R2 being hunted by jawas in order to bolster my claim that Star Wars has no music at all.

With regard to temp music he cites Star Wars and Harry Potter as shining examples of inspired music. And yet Williams himself lifted the droid factory music from AOTC and put it into the Quidditch Match of HP and the Chamber of Secrets. Stanley Kubrick ditched an entire two hour score in favor of public domain classical temp music for 2001. Every example of Marvel's musical "sins" have been praised or at the very least given a pass when done in other films.

Keep in mind that I *do* agree with you ZaCHw117 that Marvel doesn't have a truly transcendent theme like Superman or Star Wars. And I wish they did. But keep in mind that few films do and if you prefer SS's music over Marvel that's great but it's not like any random person would recall any themes from that movie either.

I couldn't agree with this more. The video had some things that I didn't know but his bias or prejudice against Marvel invalidated any point he was trying to make. It's rare I'm watching a video and repeatedly start saying out loud "this is BS".

 

[jye4ever]

WW is great.

I do love "Like a dog chasing cars" from TDK.

The only good thing to come out of TDKR was the music.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

WW is great.

I do love "Like a dog chasing cars" from TDK.

The only good thing to come out of TDKR was the music.

https://imgur.com/gallery/fK7NYeN

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

DC movies have music?

 

[jye4ever]

https://imgur.com/gallery/fK7NYeN

Damn shame that cat didn't sink its fangs into that persons hand.

lolcats from lolcat city roll that way

 

[karamazov80]

If hummability equates to the quality of the score, the the execs at Marvel and DC better start their bidding war for this right now:

 

[Khev]

Crash Test Dummies were just commissioned to pen an original song for Justice League.

"Superman never made any money...saving the world while dying like a dummy..."

 

[Khev]

I couldn't agree with this more. The video had some things that I didn't know but his bias or prejudice against Marvel invalidated any point he was trying to make. It's rare I'm watching a video and repeatedly start saying out loud "this is BS".

Yeah, just another video with someone assuming that if they throw enough invalid criticisms at something that it will translate to being valid based on quantity alone.

 

[karamazov80]

Biggest missed opportunity of the '90s-Crash Test Dummies, Hanson, 4 Non Blondes, and Blues Traveler super group. WHY DID THAT DECADE HAVE TO END???

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Sublime would have been bigger if the lead singer hadn't died

 

[karamazov80]

Pretty sure he died before they ever had their one big hit, so, possible. But, if he hadn't died, they may never have had any real fame at all. I actually do like Sublime, though. '90s wasn't all bad. Just about 90% of it.

 

[Khev]

I went out on the street and asked random people if they could sing Mmmbop, Barbie Girl, The Macarena, and that Bye Bye Bye boy band song. They all could. Then I asked them to hum Schindler's List. They couldn't. I guess we have conclusive proof that John Williams sucked in the 90's.

 

[Victοr]

I went out on the street and asked random people if they could sing Mmmbop, Barbie Girl, The Macarena, and that Bye Bye Bye boy band song. They all could. Then I asked them to hum Schindler's List. They couldn't. I guess we have conclusive proof that John Williams sucked in the 90's.

I did the same back in Elementary School, but I asked them whether they knew about who Wonder Woman was . Nobody knew her. Then, I asked them whether they knew who Ghost Rider was. Everybody knew him.

Wonder Woman: 0

Ghost Rider: 1

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Pretty sure he died before they ever had their one big hit, so, possible. But, if he hadn't died, they may never have had any real fame at all. I actually do like Sublime, though. '90s wasn't all bad. Just about 90% of it.

Yeah he OD'd right after the album dropped

 

[karamazov80]

I remember Kurt Loder reading the news about that. Really too bad, because they had talent. . .not that Right Said Fred or the Mambo Number 5 guy didn't (lest youtube guy who likes hummable themes reads this!). But No Doubt capitalized heavily on the ska-infused pop sound, and went on to be one of the biggest things around, while Sublime couldn't.

 

[kryptonianmutie]

In the next phase all Marvel films will be scored using Third Eye Blind and Goo Goo Dolls music.