Captain America: Civil War (May 6, 2016)

[Rambler]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

This is something I've been hoping for since these Marvel movies have been rolling out. Seeing the Civil War on screen will be amazing.

 

[chewblacca]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

This sounds like it will be very cool. I'm looking forward to this more than Batman vs Superman.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

Cap rebels against the hidden authoritative oppressor's against the people and fights against the NEW WORLD ORDER (called Hydra in the films)

Or could it be. . .that Hydra is actually the main threat to the real New World Order, which is the superhero cabal?

 

[jnmx2000]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

I wonder what this means for the winter soldier. If they include him in Cap 3 could this be the start of the transition to a new Cap? Also will this be a multifilm event or will this be concluded in one film? It would be pretty cool if Phase three had a few cross over films featuring civil war, cap and iron man, thor and hulk, it could be a pretty damn cool thing they can pull off here if they go that route.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

Nah man. I still don't understand how a Civil War story would work for these movies. The world already knows who Iron Man and Captain America really are and all of shields files went public. Who's identities would they be fighting to keep secret/reveal to the public? There isn't a vast roster of Avengers characters yet, there's no X-Men, Spider-Man. Civil War needs A LOT of characters to work otherwise it's not much of a war, just a quarrel between Avengers. Not only that, the MCU Stark would never be pro-government:

Unless they take the story in a VERY different direction, this whole thing sounds kinda dumb. I rather they did something original, than a half-assed Civil War.

I don't see it working without more heroes and secret identity's.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

Marvels knee jerk response to superman vs batman.

Marvel board meeting minutes
Board Member 1" how do we compete with superman vs batman????"
Board Member 2 "I know lets do captain America vs Ironman"
Board Member 3 "that's crazy we cant just have them fight we haven't been building toward that with the other movies
Board Member 2 "its ok there is a comic story my son was telling me about called Civil War
Board Member 1 You mean the American civil war
Board Member 2: No its a civil war between captain America and Iron Man, and they fight because Ironman wants all superheros to fight for the government
Board Member 3: I thought there was more to the story then that.
Board Member 2: There is but the general public don't know that and its guaranteed to compete with Superman vs Batman
Board Member 1: Ok Sounds good
Board member 3: Sounds good to me. Get RDJ on the phone and tell him well pay him that big check he has been holding us hostage for

 

[KitFisto]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

Marvel doesn't have or need to have knee jerk reactions to a DC project.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

Marvel doesn't have or need to have knee jerk reactions to a DC project.

I agree that's why I am confused why they are doing this

 

[karamazov80]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

Very hard for me to believe that Marvel would be influenced one way or the other by WB/DC's bumbling, haphazard "strategy," which of course in itself is trying to imitate Marvel's success in the best way they can.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

It is more than possible they had this planned 7 years ago and its just a coincident that Superman Vs batman was announced for that same year and before this announcement. But RDJ wasn't even signed for this film until a few days ago, there was talks he wasn't even going to be in it. How could they have had this planned if RDJ/Ironman wasn't even in the picture until a few days ago.

 

[KitFisto]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

I agree that's why I am confused why they are doing this

I'll give it to Marvel that they seemed to have had a plan all along so maybe this was part of it? I'm not crazy about a civil war in the films at all. For comics fine, but not in the movie verse. I like the "heros" united and together and as someone else said I can't see the movie Stark turning all pro government even if he's feeling guilty over Ultron.

 

[jnmx2000]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

I agree that's why I am confused why they are doing this

Maybe because this has always been Marvels plan? I could see them bringing back Red Skull for Avengers 3 and it's the Avengers VS Hydra. We're left with the team broken, we have civil war for phase 4 and it leads up to Thanos in Avengers 4. By phase 4 we will have added ant man and DR strange to the mix so a civil war type phase could be more than plausible.

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

Nah man. I still don't understand how a Civil War story would work for these movies. The world already knows who Iron Man and Captain America really are and all of shields files went public. Who's identities would they be fighting to keep secret/reveal to the public? There isn't a vast roster of Avengers characters yet, there's no X-Men, Spider-Man. Civil War needs A LOT of characters to work otherwise it's not much of a war, just a quarrel between Avengers. Not only that, the MCU Stark would never be pro-government:

Unless they take the story in a VERY different direction, this whole thing sounds kinda dumb. I rather they did something original, than a half-assed Civil War.

Avengers: Civil Quarrel

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

It does scream of reaction to BvS. That's gonna be the biggest of 2016 and Marvel doesn't want that to happen so boom thrown-together Civil War.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

Maybe because this has always been Marvels plan? I could see them bringing back Red Skull for Avengers 3 and it's the Avengers VS Hydra. We're left with the team broken, we have civil war for phase 4 and it leads up to Thanos in Avengers 4. By phase 4 we will have added ant man and DR strange to the mix so a civil war type phase could be more than plausible.

If this was planned then RDJ wouldn't have just been signed on and the story re-writen to include him in a major part

 

[jnmx2000]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

If this was planned then RDJ wouldn't have just been signed. They rewrote the story to include him after the signed just a few days ago

I disagree, it's about contracts and RDJ isn't going to sign 5 or so years in advance for a cross over film that's not an Ironman movie. At this point for RDJ he's on a film by film basis, I'm sure they could tweak the story how ever they wanted if RDJ said no but Marvel knows it's going to make bigger waves by having Iron Man in the story. It's all about contracts though and RDJ isn't going to do this for some lump sum of money.

 

[KitFisto]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

If this was planned then RDJ wouldn't have just been signed on and the story re-writen to include him in a major part

RDJ has been talked about leaving and IM possible be re casted at some point so it still may have been planned with a re casted Tony Stark if they couldn't come to terms with RDJ.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

Who knows how long contractual negotiations have been ongoing, if verbal commitments were made, etc., or even that it had to be Cap's team vs. IM's team in the context of the story? Having said that, it is definitely possible that Marvel would have been influenced by WB. Look at how Hot Toys was influenced by Enterbay to do several things a couple years back despite the fact that EB is a fledgling upstart vs. the juggernaut of HT. But seems really unlikely. Civil War was one of the most noteworthy Marvel storylines of the last decade or so, so the idea that Marvel was planning on doing it doesn't surprise me in the least.

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

I disagree, it's about contracts and RDJ isn't going to sign 5 or so years in advance for a cross over film that's not an Ironman movie. At this point for RDJ he's on a film by film basis, I'm sure they could tweak the story how ever they wanted if RDJ said no but Marvel knows it's going to make bigger waves by having Iron Man in the story. It's all about contracts though and RDJ isn't going to do this for some lump sum of money.

I understand that but he was in there plans for Avengers 3 back when they did the contract. My point is there was no Plans for civil war hence the need to modify his contract to add him to Cap3. The Civil war concept arose after Batman Vs Superman and appears to be a stupid reaction from marvel execs

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: Captain America 3 (May 6, 2016)

RDJ has been talked about leaving and IM possible be re casted at some point so it still may have been planned with a re casted Tony Stark if they couldn't come to terms with RDJ.

Who out there could replace RDJ as Stark?

Anyone else in that role and the Marvel Coaster would have derailed with Iron Man.