Captain Marvel - March 8, 2019

[a-dev]

I'm pretty sure people can just be expressing their opinion of the movie without any thought to what anyone else thinks of it or what the box-office says. Not everyone cares one way or another about 'sticking it to the other side' on the internets.

 

[Malgus]

I'm pretty sure people can just be expressing their opinion of the movie without any thought to what anyone else thinks of it or what the box-office says. Not everyone cares one way or another about 'sticking it to the other side' on the internets.

Like I said before this thread would be 10 pages longer if the movie had flopped. All those people pretending not to care about the billion dollar box office would have been busy flooding this thread and other internet pages with gloating posts. It didn't work out for them and now they are trying to "take the high road".

 

[ZE_501]

Like I said before this thread would be 10 pages longer if the movie had flopped. All those people pretending not to care about the billion dollar box office would have been busy flooding this thread and other internet pages with gloating posts. It didn't work out for them and now they are trying to "take the high road".

I heard a bunch of misogynistic noise in general but on these boards I thought it was only a vocal minority that were down on this flick before the trailer even dropped -- the whole "She's expressionless" "SJW hysteria" and "Her butt's flat" nonsense?

Not sure I'm seeing the same 'high road' obfuscation you are, but I haven't been in this thread for a while.

 

[JAWS]

Wut? I still people trying to change the topic to captain marvel is not a good movie. They can't say it's not a success and be taken seriously so they are trying to say it's not a good movie and thus not successful.

Guess it all depends on the definition of success..

I am pretty sure Disney would call this movie a success.

Hell if a film was 2 hours of a dog turd and it made billions they would consider it a success.

Some may say its how well a movie is made to determine if it is a success.

I think its both.

So in that respect I think that CM is a success because It is doing well and its not a bad movie. Of course to say that some of its success is not because it has MARVEL slapped on it is being intellectually dishonest. I am not sure this film does as well if it was its own stand alone film and not part of the MCU.. Same could be said for Ant man, Dr, Strange, etc...

Its also being a bit dishonest if anyone is saying that this is a flop or not a big financial success.


In all honesty I am shocked this is all still being debated.

 

[Choryujin]

Why do people still engage with this certain poster? You're negating my ignore setting as I end up seeing the post anyway because of your quotes!

 

[JAWS]

I heard a bunch of misogynistic noise in general but on these boards I thought it was only a vocal minority that were down on this flick before the trailer even dropped -- the whole "She's expressionless" "SJW hysteria" and "Her butt's flat" nonsense?

Not sure I'm seeing the same 'high road' obfuscation you are, but I haven't been in this thread for a while.

Were people down on this flick before the trailer? I thought the trailer had people going "Meh" and then the Brie comments got people frustrated. That's when I saw the flat butt, SJW, and expressionless comments taking place..

But in all honesty I did not start paying attention to this film all that much until Brie said the comments.. I really believe that's why she did.. Draw attention to a film that was not getting much.. But that's my cynical side getting the better of me.

 

[JAWS]

Why do people still engage with this certain poster? You're negating my ignore setting as I end up seeing the post anyway because of your quotes!

oops sorry.



Never ignore the opposition.

 

[ZE_501]

Were people down on this flick before the trailer? I thought the trailer had people going "Meh" and then the Brie comments got people frustrated. That's when I saw the flat butt, SJW, and expressionless comments taking place..

But in all honesty I did not start paying attention to this film all that much until Brie said the comments.. I really believe that's why she did.. Draw attention to a film that was not getting much.. But that's my cynical side getting the better of me.

That might have been it -- there's a lot of goofball stuff on the Web and I can't keep it all straight, given that I usually just skim it and move on.

 

[a-dev]

Like I said before this thread would be 10 pages longer if the movie had flopped. All those people pretending not to care about the billion dollar box office would have been busy flooding this thread and other internet pages with gloating posts. It didn't work out for them and now they are trying to "take the high road".

But you thankfully are rising above such behavior.

 

[JAWS]

That might have been it -- there's a lot of goofball stuff on the Web and I can't keep it all straight, given that I usually just skim it and move on.

Well like I said.. I was not paying all that much attention.. I found Brie's comments to be annoying and sexiest in their own way... So I that's when I tuned in lol

I never questioned the power of MARVEL Studios and this film being a success.. I actually liked Brie in the movie but thought the film itself was only OK. No way was this film going to bomb.. It would have to be Catwoman quality for that to happen... Even then it still probably would have made bank

 

[JAWS]

But you thankfully are rising above such behavior.

a-dev with the words of wisdom.

 

[SilverStar17]

I have never cared that much about meeting celebs. I don't get nervous. They are just people.

My Joke has always been.. I don't want to meet Harrison Ford. I want to meet Indiana Jones.

Same here. I don’t understand the fascination with celebrities, as if they’re superior beings who possess worldly knowledge that the rest of us rubes can’t figure out for ourselves, and who we as a society should turn to for moral guidance because they play make-believe for a living. Hard pass. Like you said, they’re people just like anyone else. One time, I walked up to Kurt Russell when I was about 10 years old and asked for his autograph on a Stargate Colonel O’Neil figure. Nicest guy ever. His son Wyatt played sports on one of the opposing teams in our league, so he’d be at the games whenever our team played his. Nobody treated him any differently though; he was just one of the parents like everyone else. Same with Martin Short.

And your analogy is a good way to look at it. I don’t admire Chris Evans or Henry Cavill, for instance. I admire the character of Captain America and Superman, and the values and tenets those characters espouse. Off screen, you’re Chris Evans.

It's not an either/or proposition. I think for the purposes of a discussion people need to define what they mean by 'success'. Captain Marvel is undoubtedly successful financially, successful in the realm of popular opinion, and even successful as an MCU film. It gets the job done and it's kinda fun.

This is not mutually exclusive with my contention that it suffers from poor execution relative to finer examples of the genre, if we're going to compare apples to apples.

Don’t bother. Attempting to engage in rational discourse with that individual by default requires you to relinquish 10-20 IQ points, minimum. He’s either incapable of processing thoughts and opinions outside that of his own, or uninterested. There’s no option C.

 

[JAWS]

It's not an either/or proposition. I think for the purposes of a discussion people need to define what they mean by 'success'. Captain Marvel is undoubtedly successful financially, successful in the realm of popular opinion, and even successful as an MCU film. It gets the job done and it's kinda fun.

This is not mutually exclusive with my contention that it suffers from poor execution relative to finer examples of the genre, if we're going to compare apples to apples.

Guess it all depends on the definition of success..

I am pretty sure Disney would call this movie a success.

Hell if a film was 2 hours of a dog turd and it made billions they would consider it a success.

Some may say its how well a movie is made to determine if it is a success.

I think its both.

So in that respect I think that CM is a success because It is doing well and its not a bad movie. Of course to say that some of its success is not because it has MARVEL slapped on it is being intellectually dishonest. I am not sure this film does as well if it was its own stand alone film and not part of the MCU.. Same could be said for Ant man, Dr, Strange, etc...

Its also being a bit dishonest if anyone is saying that this is a flop or not a big financial success.


In all honesty I am shocked this is all still being debated.

I didn't even see what you wrote till someone SilverStar just quoted you...

Great Minds

 

[SilverStar17]

I'm pretty sure people can just be expressing their opinion of the movie without any thought to what anyone else thinks of it or what the box-office says. Not everyone cares one way or another about 'sticking it to the other side' on the internets.

My personal opinion on a film has no relevance to how much it made at the box office, or what other people’s opinions on it are for that matter.

Guess it all depends on the definition of success..

I am pretty sure Disney would call this movie a success.

Hell if a film was 2 hours of a dog turd and it made billions they would consider it a success.

Some may say its how well a movie is made to determine if it is a success.

I think its both.

So in that respect I think that CM is a success because It is doing well and its not a bad movie. Of course to say that some of its success is not because it has MARVEL slapped on it is being intellectually dishonest. I am not sure this film does as well if it was its own stand alone film and not part of the MCU.. Same could be said for Ant man, Dr, Strange, etc...

Its also being a bit dishonest if anyone is saying that this is a flop or not a big financial success.


In all honesty I am shocked this is all still being debated.

Overall, a film’s BO total is just indicative of how many people went to see the film. It doesn’t mean that everyone who went to see it actually liked what they saw. BO total and personal opinion are mostly mutually exclusive. However, word of mouth could also propel a film’s financial success in the sense that people thought it was at least decent, so they encourage others to go and see it. Which I think would apply to the casual movie goer who just wants to go out for a Saturday afternoon flick and watch whatever is new that week. I think though that people who want to see a film are going to see it regardless, such as the fans.

 

[DarthBakura]

Like I said before this thread would be 10 pages longer if the movie had flopped. All those people pretending not to care about the billion dollar box office would have been busy flooding this thread and other internet pages with gloating posts. It didn't work out for them and now they are trying to "take the high road".

Get over it.

 

[ironwez20]

Hell once storm comes into play you can say goodbye to captain marvel being the “face of the mcu” Storm was marvel’s Wonder Woman

 

[SilverStar17]

Except WW is still arguably the face of the DCEU, even after JL.

I think her and Aquaman are vying for that title. Mostly because Affleck is presumably out and Cavill, no idea.

 

[jal76]

Hell once storm comes into play you can say goodbye to captain marvel being the “face of the mcu” Storm was marvel’s Wonder Woman

Storm was definitely not Marvel's Wonder Woman...I've been a X-Men reader since the 1980's but sorry no...not even close...Storm did not even have her own comic book until 2014...you may need to research Wonder Woman a bit more.

 

[ironwez20]

Storm was definitely not Marvel's Wonder Woman...I've been a X-Men reader since the 1980's but sorry no...not even close...Storm did not even have her own series until 2014...you may need to research Wonder Woman a bit more.

Ah shut up. Storm was prominent in xmen and avengers and was marvel’s most iconic woman up til early 00s. No other marvel woman came close to her exposure besides Sue Storm. Just cause she didn’t have a solo title doesn’t mean she wasn’t a big name. She wasn’t as big as Wonder Woman but she was without a doubt the Wonder Woman of the marvel verse at the time. So yea you may need to research storm a bit more and get off the captain marvel merry go round.

 

[jal76]

Ah shut up. Storm was prominent in xmen and avengers and was marvel’s most iconic woman up til early 00s. No other marvel woman came close to her exposure besides Sue Storm. Just cause she didn’t have a solo title doesn’t mean she wasn’t a big name. She wasn’t as big as Wonder Woman but she was without a doubt the Wonder Woman of the marvel verse at the time. So yea you may need to research storm a bit more and get off the captain marvel merry go round.

Beginning a post with "ah shut up" may be a sign that's it's time for you to get some of your prescriptions refilled...why don't you take care of that right quick while I re-read some X-Men back issues