Chris Benoit and family found dead

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die said:
Bret Hart will never be the same after the concussions/strokes he's suffered,
I know that concussions are what ended Hart's career, but weren't the strokes due to a motorcycle accident he had?
 
EVILFACE said:
What a POS.

I only remember the old skool 80's wraslers and ones on Raw/Nitro 06 game. I never played this tool and will continue to beat his ass.

And this murderer got a tribute last night? WWE really has no class now.

Were they aware that he had killed the family at the time?

Either way, they should have postponed the show. That would have been the best thing to do. And as for classy? I don't think it was too classy when Mcmahon faked his death.
 
die said:
It's very possible that Benoit did kill his family. Wrestling has a way of turning people into something they never thought they could be. There's only so many steroids, painkillers & other various substances you can pump into your body before your mind starts turning into applesauce.

Somebody posted a list of dead wrestlers & there's so many more out there that had fallen off of peoples radar. Mike Awesome committed suicide, Louie Spicoli OD'd, Pitbull #2 OD'd , Hercules Hernandez died of heart failure at 47, The Wall (Malice in TNA) died of heart failure at 36 and The Renegade (remember the fake Ultimate Warrior from WCW in the early 90's?) killed himself. Canadian Strongman Dino Bravo was executed gang style. Not to mention the wrestlers who are still alive and just sad to look at now...Jake Roberts is an alcoholic/crack addict, Bret Hart will never be the same after the concussions/strokes he's suffered, Steroids have destroyed Superstar Billy Graham's body and just look at the broken necks wrestlers have suffered and the drugs needed so that they can perform (Kurt Angle, Lita, Steve Austin, Buff Bagwell, Scott Steiner, etc, etc....)


I can not stand to see any child suffer at all, but I would imagine that there's probably more to this case than meets the eye. I would imagine Benoit was in a very strange place mentally.
you pretty muc summed up exactly what I have been thinking of the whole situation...
 
i dont think the wwe lost any of its little class it has left. they and many people had no clue what the details of his death were at the time they aired the tirbute . i think that is what makes this all the more shocking , the fact he was considered a nice guy. as a wrestler the guy was good. as a man, he became an ******* who sunk to the lowest moral level. its a shame that all three of them died at his hands but i think there is more to this story than has been revealed. i feel like the drug use and insane schedules that wrestlers are under really kills their quality of life and turns them into something they would never be if allowed to live a "normal" life. wrestlers die way to young and way too often. so many od's and sucides and heart issues. there has to be a variable to this.
all in all it sucks he murdered his family and himself . i do think wrestling should be brought in front of some type of commision to try and explain why they have a mortality rate higher than the military.
 
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Actually, until the full story is known, I don't see how anyone can condemn or praise the man. It may be he was literally "out of his mind" because of mental illness, drugs or whatever, if he even did it. He may not even have known what he was doing when/if he killed his wife and son, and when/if he realized it, took his own life because he couldn't live with the knowledge of what he did/might have done. If he did do it, and mental illness was involved, I don't think he should be condemned and hated. Why not just express your sorrow at the events and leave it at that until the final story is told. :confused:
 
devlinboy said:
i do think wrestling should be brought in front of some type of commision to try and explain why they have a mortality rate higher than the military.

There was talk at one time sanctioning the bout like they do boxing and MMA events so that they performers would be drug tested. That was when Vince started calling it sports entertainment instead of wrestling to get away from this option. Some states do require that the wrestlers be tested and Vince will not bring his show to those states. He has also been brought up on charges that he supplied drugs to his performers but was aquitted.
 
Dude-loser was texting his friends all weekend. That suggests to me a much clearer mind. Not to mention that there are at least a couple of days seperating the two murders. That leaves little to suggest that it was a case of temp. insanity or a passion murder or even a drug addled rage. The guy killed his wife Friday, spent saturday and sunday with his son (all while talking to friends and texting them) makes up an excuse not to wrestle, smothers his kid in its sleep, and then hangs himself.

This sounds slightly premeditated to me and not just some drugged roid horse. I could be wrong.
 
lcummins said:
Actually, until the full story is known, I don't see how anyone can condemn or praise the man. It may be he was literally "out of his mind" because of mental illness, drugs or whatever, if he even did it. He may not even have known what he was doing when/if he killed his wife and son, and when/if he realized it, took his own life because he couldn't live with the knowledge of what he did/might have done. If he did do it, and mental illness was involved, I don't think he should be condemned and hated. Why not just express your sorrow at the events and leave it at that until the final story is told. :confused:

You bring up some valid points lcummins. Always thought of you as deep thinker. We have been quick to judge, but so far right now it doesn't look good for Chris Benoit.

I feel so sorry for that family, and the family and friends of the now deceased. Those are the ones who will continue to suffer.
 
pixletwin said:
Dude-loser was texting his friends all weekend. That suggests to me a much clearer mind. Not to mention that there are at least a couple of days seperating the two murders. That leaves little to suggest that it was a case of temp. insanity or a passion murder or even a drug addled rage. The guy killed his wife Friday, spent saturday and sunday with his son (all while talking to friends and texting them) makes up an excuse not to wrestle, smothers his kid in its sleep, and then hangs himself.

This sounds slightly premeditated to me and not just some drugged roid horse. I could be wrong.

What if it was some mental illness? That usually doesn't wear off in a day or two...
 
lcummins said:
What if it was some mental illness? That usually doesn't wear off in a day or two...

Sorry I must've misunderstood you post. I thought you were saying he was up in "roid rage" as opposed to having a long standing mental illness. But seeing as noone even suspected he had any illness (ie WWE giving him a tribute - not occuring to anyone close to him that he may have been responcible) I still say it was likely he was into something he didn't want his family to know about and probably viewed the murders he commited as "mercy killings".

But I guess its all neither here nor there right now until there is more investigation.
 
pixletwin said:
Sorry I must've misunderstood you post. I thought you were saying he was up in "roid rage" as opposed to having a long standing mental illness. But seeing as noone even suspected he had any illness (ie WWE giving him a tribute - not occuring to anyone close to him that he may have been responcible) I still say it was likely he was into something he didn't want his family to know about and probably viewed the murders he commited as "mercy killings".

But I guess its all neither here nor there right now until there is more investigation.

you thinkin he was up to some underhanded activity? like with the mob or drugs etc... thats interesting, i never thought of that. i do think there is a big story to tell behind this whole thing.
 
pixletwin said:
...But I guess its all neither here nor there right now until there is more investigation.


And that's all I'm trying to say. If it turns out he did kill his wife and child with full faculties and malice, then... :emperor
 
He did it, I'll go re-find the story but they just confirmed it. Gotta give me a moment or 2 I'm at work and gotta do most of this on the sly.
 
Bannister said:
I know that concussions are what ended Hart's career, but weren't the strokes due to a motorcycle accident he had?

Well, the bike accident was on a bicycle, like a mountain bike. He suffered a concussion in WCW due to Goldberg's lack of wrestling training. He was having blackouts that prevented him from wrestling and caused his stroke which happened while he was mountain biking.


I think everybody has the right to express their feelings when somebody dies whether it be sadness, anger, humor, etc. If it was mental illness then I look at everyone involved with sympathy, I feel sorry for them all.

The wrestlers last night all spoke of his Benoit's love for his family, I've yet to hear anything saying that he was abusive or cruel. The wrestling business and the wrestling fans demand alot of wrestlers and alot of wrestlers suffer from life changing injuries both mentally & physically. Should the wrestling business & fans damn the wrestler to hell once he's used up & damaged?

I just think something was really bad wrong with the guy.
 
The wrestlers last night all spoke of his Benoit's love for his family, I've yet to hear anything saying that he was abusive or cruel. The wrestling business and the wrestling fans demand alot of wrestlers and alot of wrestlers suffer from life changing injuries both mentally & physically. Should the wrestling business & fans damn the wrestler to hell once he's used up & damaged?

Tell that to his wife and child.
 
Batty said:

Read this.

Nancy Benoit filed for a divorce in May 2003, saying their three-year union was irrevocably broken and alleging “cruel treatment.” But she later dropped the complaint, as well as a request for a restraining order in which she charged that Benoit had threatened her and had broken furniture in their home.

Interesting. He strangled his wife and smothered his kid. My brother, who was an assistant DA in Manhattan for 15 years and tried many murder cases, said to his mind that would suggest he killed his wife in a moment of passion (argument whatever... not premeditated) however the son would have been probably (like I suggested) a "mercy killing" in benoit's mind or as an alternative to having to live with the grief of his dead mother-which mean that it was premeditated.

In short, what a coward, if this is the case.
 
At first I thought the entire family was murdered by a stranger (or whatever). I didn't think Benoit would do something like this.

How can you kill another person? To kill his own wife and his own child (who you should protect at any and all costs) is disgusting.

I am sick to my stomach that the WWE gave this coward a "tribute" last night, yes, they meant well. But, in light of what we know now. It's ridiculous. It's something he didn't deserve. The only ones deserving of a tribute are his wife and son.
 
pixletwin said:
Interesting. He strangled his wife and smothered his kid. My brother, who was an assistant DA in Manhattan for 15 years and tried many murder cases, said to his mind that would suggest he killed his wife in a moment of passion (argument whatever... not premeditated) however the son would have been probably (like I suggested) a "mercy killing" in benoit's mind or as an alternative to having to live with the grief of his dead mother-which mean that it was premeditated.

In short, what a coward, if this is the case.


I thought the same thing, hence the time in between deaths. He did her outa no where, than tried to live with it for a day ro 2 and than just killed his son and himself as an alternative to turning himself in.
 
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