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Agreed. It's the seal of the plot's predestination paradox. I thought the showrunners were trying to pull off an Alan Moore from the Spawn/WildCATS crossover in the 90s.
Agreed. Killer Frost is seductive as hell.
So I think Barry and Savitar look the same age- I'm thinking that Savitar could be the time remnant from the end of season two that stopped the Zoom device. Explains the scar... and perhaps he didn't "dissolve" and was absorbed into the Speed Force.
So I think Barry and Savitar look the same age- I'm thinking that Savitar could be the time remnant from the end of season two that stopped the Zoom device. Explains the scar... and perhaps he didn't "dissolve" and was absorbed into the Speed Force.
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time remnant is a sound theory.
Appreciate it. I called it was Barry the first time they used Julien as a conduit to speak with him. Syntax theory for the win.
The evidence is there:
- Appears the same age/look as Barry
- In the original Crisis when he tried to stop the Anti-Monitor he "died" and dissolved... but we now know he was absorbed into the Speed Force
- We know the Speed Force exists in a "pool" of time where "time" is relative which explains how he knows so much
- The scar can be from the event versus Zoom
- He views Barry as the villain, and Barry used him as a tool to defeat Zoom
- Never had the love of Iris and wants Barry to suffer the same
The evidence is there:
- Appears the same age/look as Barry
- In the original Crisis when he tried to stop the Anti-Monitor he "died" and dissolved... but we now know he was absorbed into the Speed Force
- We know the Speed Force exists in a "pool" of time where "time" is relative which explains how he knows so much
- The scar can be from the event versus Zoom
- He views Barry as the villain, and Barry used him as a tool to defeat Zoom
- Never had the love of Iris and wants Barry to suffer the same
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My other theory is it is the original Barry, the one that was created by legit Wells that traveled from 2024 and saved Barry from Thawne when the series started.
Remember the Barry we're watching is not the original Barry.
Remember the Barry we're watching is not the original Barry.
What a mess, man... It says something when S1 with its lame FX can punch me in my emotional guts while pretty much everything from S2 and S3 feels lame and lifeless. The only good things about last two episodes are 2024 Flash' suit and seein' Killer Frost slide around the city.
Don't look into this thing much.
In the same episode you have a 42 years old actress tryin' to be young adult.
Don't look into this thing much.
Go ahead and point out where they discussed her age in any way.
If you're going to say something silly like "She is in school" my buddy just got his PhD at 36 years old. Invalid argument.
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I did see this already.
So you believe that her behavior in this clip demonstrates a post 40s woman trying to look and act like a post 20s woman? Is that accurate?
Lets take the "look" side first. Shes wearing black pants, an unrevealing striped shirt, and a yellow sweater. Her hair is out and past her shoulders. She has on light make up. She is relatively thin.
What would you change about her appearance?
So you believe that her behavior in this clip demonstrates a post 40s woman trying to look and act like a post 20s woman? Is that accurate?
Lets take the "look" side first. Shes wearing black pants, an unrevealing striped shirt, and a yellow sweater. Her hair is out and past her shoulders. She has on light make up. She is relatively thin.
What would you change about her appearance?
So... where does it mention her age? Or give a relative time reference where we can try to determine her age? My buddy that got his PhD in his mid-30s looks 25.
You're also suggesting that age dictates behavior, and that people are required to behave a certain way due to their chronological age. That is asinine and isn't factual. There is nothing to determine her age, they've not tried to pass her off as 17-18 years old like they did in say Scream, Varsity Blues, etc.
Therefore you're stating that people are not able to progress in education as they see fit, only people under the page of 30 are able to attend college and obtain any form of higher degree. The suggestion that someone of a certain age is suppose to behave in an exact manner and that "hey, you're not 18-25 years old, so forget you and the education you're trying to pursue."
I am 32 years old, hold two degrees from one college and I'm pursuing another at Cornell. But based upon your logic I am not permitted to do this...
One of my professors got his graduate degree at 43. But hey Riddick, he isn't allowed to do that, right?
They also made the love interest HR, a man clearly in mid 40s to early 50s. Age doesn't dictate love, but perhaps it should in the realm of your "logic?"
You are the one grasping at straws here, not the rest of us.
You're also suggesting that age dictates behavior, and that people are required to behave a certain way due to their chronological age. That is asinine and isn't factual. There is nothing to determine her age, they've not tried to pass her off as 17-18 years old like they did in say Scream, Varsity Blues, etc.
Therefore you're stating that people are not able to progress in education as they see fit, only people under the page of 30 are able to attend college and obtain any form of higher degree. The suggestion that someone of a certain age is suppose to behave in an exact manner and that "hey, you're not 18-25 years old, so forget you and the education you're trying to pursue."
I am 32 years old, hold two degrees from one college and I'm pursuing another at Cornell. But based upon your logic I am not permitted to do this...
One of my professors got his graduate degree at 43. But hey Riddick, he isn't allowed to do that, right?
They also made the love interest HR, a man clearly in mid 40s to early 50s. Age doesn't dictate love, but perhaps it should in the realm of your "logic?"
You are the one grasping at straws here, not the rest of us.
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You are mixing a lot of arguments together. And i believe you are contorting Riddick's statement.
Riddick makes no mention of age and/or appearance as it relates to academic pursuit. Not that i saw anyway. Riddick's statement was limited to appearance and behavior as a function of age. Riddick doesnt touch profession. So i think you made some big jumps and unfairly so.
Riddick makes no mention of age and/or appearance as it relates to academic pursuit. Not that i saw anyway. Riddick's statement was limited to appearance and behavior as a function of age. Riddick doesnt touch profession. So i think you made some big jumps and unfairly so.
You're off target.
It's continuing the conversation of age and the possible threads he was going down.
Is it appearance? No. She also doesn't appear to be 42. He specifically commented she was trying to "look and act like she was in her 20s."
So continuing on that I was trying to determine where he might try to go on the idea that she is trying to "pass herself off" a certain age. So generally students are 18-26 years old so I commented on the fact that there isn't an age requirement to attend college.
Is it the fact she is continuing education? Invalid.
Is it behavior? Invalid- how is that relevant? We're all grown people collecting toys which would be against "age."
Now this isn't confirmed and I am not sure exactly where they got this information, but it could be factual and relevant. Now I know graduating with a BS in 2008 doesn't identify age, but lets go with she naturally progressed age/education as most do.
If she graduated with a BS and progressed as the usual student does this would mean the BS was obtained in four years, which means she likely graduated high school in 2004. So roughly her age in 2004 would be 18 being born in 1986. So in 2008 she would be 22 and therefore 2017 she would be 31.
Of course this is if she just naturally progressed as the typical student does. Also bear in mind research cannot be confined in a specific structure timeline (timeline in the Flash is relative of course haha) and with that her graduate degree could take 2 years or could take 20 years dependent on the progress of her research. Also it seems to be tied to speedsters which in context of the show weren't around until 2014 and her research could have been altered due to the introduction of that new variable. Add in she didn't have direct access to the subject of said variable (in this it would be Barry/Wally/Jesse/Zoom/Thawne/Trajectory/Jay/Any Speedster really) that significantly delays her research.
I went back and tried to do a screen grab of the holographic of her future accomplishments but I can't read the text.
Based on the information we have available the character seemingly is late 20s early 30s.
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Post 1990- Riddick wrote in part:
"In the same episode you have a 42 years old actress tryin' to be young adult. Don't look into this thing much."
Post 1992- Riddick wrote in part:
"Again, post 40 woman tryin' to look and act like in her 20's.Before that we had 7 years older versions of the main cast who looked the same."
Post 1995- Riddick posts a 3 min youtube clip of the the introduction of the character. No comment is included.
Post 1997 HDGuy84 wrote in part (responding to Riddick):
"Therefore you're stating that people are not able to progress in education as they see fit, only people under the page of 30 are able to attend college and obtain any form of higher degree. The suggestion that someone of a certain age is suppose to behave in an exact manner and that "hey, you're not 18-25 years old, so forget you and the education you're trying to pursue."
I am 32 years old, hold two degrees from one college and I'm pursuing another at Cornell. But based upon your logic I am not permitted to do this...
One of my professors got his graduate degree at 43. But hey Riddick, he isn't allowed to do that, right?"
I think your response mischaracterizes what Riddick wrote. Riddick didn't post anything on who should go to college. It's just not the case. Riddick may well believe that (or not!), but If I thought Riddick was going down that road, I would ask Riddick, rather than take the jump. You have to go by what ppl actually write. It can be examined and questioned. But to just attribute ideas to someone when they never actually said anything on the subject is unfair in my opinion.
"In the same episode you have a 42 years old actress tryin' to be young adult. Don't look into this thing much."
Post 1992- Riddick wrote in part:
"Again, post 40 woman tryin' to look and act like in her 20's.Before that we had 7 years older versions of the main cast who looked the same."
Post 1995- Riddick posts a 3 min youtube clip of the the introduction of the character. No comment is included.
Post 1997 HDGuy84 wrote in part (responding to Riddick):
"Therefore you're stating that people are not able to progress in education as they see fit, only people under the page of 30 are able to attend college and obtain any form of higher degree. The suggestion that someone of a certain age is suppose to behave in an exact manner and that "hey, you're not 18-25 years old, so forget you and the education you're trying to pursue."
I am 32 years old, hold two degrees from one college and I'm pursuing another at Cornell. But based upon your logic I am not permitted to do this...
One of my professors got his graduate degree at 43. But hey Riddick, he isn't allowed to do that, right?"
I think your response mischaracterizes what Riddick wrote. Riddick didn't post anything on who should go to college. It's just not the case. Riddick may well believe that (or not!), but If I thought Riddick was going down that road, I would ask Riddick, rather than take the jump. You have to go by what ppl actually write. It can be examined and questioned. But to just attribute ideas to someone when they never actually said anything on the subject is unfair in my opinion.
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