David Ayer's Academy Award winning "Suicide Squad"

[meanstreak]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Looks like the film is going to be rated PG-13. I thought it looked dark enough for them to go R but I am sure it'll push that PG-13 limit.

“The intention of the film is definitely to be PG-13… We really want to make these films tonally consistent so that, as I said because this is a shared universe, at least our current thinking—and again, we’re not dealing in absolutes because while this is business it’s also a creative endeavor, so you want to leave yourself open to changing your mind, doing something different, being inspired, that’s the whole process of filmmaking is you have to allow for inspiration as well as having a road map for what you’re gonna do. So our plan right now is to make all these films PG-13. In some cases, you know, right there on the edge of PG-13, but still PG-13.”

Suicide Squad Producer on Jared Leto Going Method, Rating | Collider

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Or PG for theatrical and R for home video.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Thar's fine. The TDK trilogy was PG 13 and it had plenty of violence. I mean, they had dead people hanging from a helicopter on a summer "popcorn" movie with a toy line for kids

 

[GasparZizou]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Yeah it's fine, no complaints from me.

 

[RIDDICK]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

It's just that... I wanna see Croc ripping limbs off and eating them.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

It's just that... I wanna see Croc ripping limbs off and eating them.

That's a good point. Now we'll just have to hear him do that

 

[Buttmunch]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Looks like the film is going to be rated PG-13. I thought it looked dark enough for them to go R but I am sure it'll push that PG-13 limit.

“The intention of the film is definitely to be PG-13… We really want to make these films tonally consistent so that, as I said because this is a shared universe, at least our current thinking—and again, we’re not dealing in absolutes because while this is business it’s also a creative endeavor, so you want to leave yourself open to changing your mind, doing something different, being inspired, that’s the whole process of filmmaking is you have to allow for inspiration as well as having a road map for what you’re gonna do. So our plan right now is to make all these films PG-13. In some cases, you know, right there on the edge of PG-13, but still PG-13.”

Suicide Squad Producer on Jared Leto Going Method, Rating | Collider

That's exactly why I thought this was going to be PG-13 from the beginning. It would be hard to start with an R Joker only to water him down for a PG-13 Batman movie. Keeps everything consistent and that works.

Deadpool on the other hand, they could water down, and have him breaking the 4th wall about it and it will work out just fine

 

[jye4ever]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

You pegged this one from the beginning.

Not bad.

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

No really, there was no way this was going to be R.

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

It's tough to make a decent action movie involving machine guns and have it be PG-13. Winter Soldier and James Bond have proven that it can be done however. Hell even Genisys did a good job of pushing the limits of the rating. I was still hoping we might at least get a "soft R" like Fury Road for Suicide Squad though.

I don't think there's anything wrong with having variable ratings in a shared universe. Netflix Daredevil is much more brutal than Ant-Man was but I could still see them appearing in the same film at some point.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Honestly, after seeing Fury Road, I don't see why it was R rated. It looked like a PG-13 film to me.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

There's so much subjectivity in the process, that it's hard to say with these things. I don't think Fury Road was any more disturbing than Dark Knight. Put maybe the sheer amount of violence and periodic gore pushed it over the edge for the reviewers.

I suspect they'll do stuff off-screen in Suicide Squad to maintain that rating. Like when Joker cut Michael Jai White's face.

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I suspect they'll do stuff off-screen in Suicide Squad to maintain that rating. Like when Joker cut Michael Jai White's face.

I hated that bit. Seemed so "edited for TV." Hopefully SS doesn't have that vibe.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I felt it was handled well. Great use of the score. But they can also use hints and suggestions if it comes to things, like Joker raping someone. Or Batman molesting Robin (I'm sure this happens in the Snyderverse. Wouldn't be X-TREME enough otherwise).

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I felt it was handled well. Great use of the score.

Think about it though. If you run a knife through someone's cheek would they just fall over dead, without so much as a whisper? Pan's Labyrinth had a similar situation which seemed much more believable as to how that would play out. Obviously they couldn't do that in a PG-13 movie but just having the music blare and White quietly crumple really felt like something major had been abruptly censored which always takes me out of the moment.

Cutting away to horrified reactions while listening to White screaming would have been much better and if the MPAA wouldn't even let them do *that* then I think they should have rethought that entire sequence.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

But they can also use hints and suggestions if it comes to things, like Joker rapping .

Fixed*

 

[karamazov80]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

LOL

Think about it though. If you run a knife through someone's cheek would they just fall over dead, without so much as a whisper? Pan's Labyrinth had a similar situation which seemed much more believable as to how that would play out. Obviously they couldn't do that in a PG-13 movie but just having the music blare and White quietly crumple really felt like something major had been abruptly censored which always takes me out of the moment.

Cutting away to horrified reactions while listening to White screaming would have been much better and if the MPAA wouldn't even let them do *that* then I think they should have rethought that entire sequence.

It's dramatic license, Khev! If you really wanted gritty realism in all of our funny book movies, all of your beloved Winter Soldier fight scenes would end with a quick bullet through someone's head (starting with Cap's).

 

[spindrift]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Honestly, after seeing Fury Road, I don't see why it was R rated. It looked like a PG-13 film to me.

Yep it shocked me- was a "soft" PG-13 at that......stupid move as it would have made more $$$ with a PG rating!

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

It's dramatic license, Khev! If you really wanted gritty realism in all of our funny book movies, all of your beloved Winter Soldier fight scenes would end with a quick bullet through someone's head (starting with Cap's).

TDK didn't really present itself as a "funny book" movie though. It clearly wanted to be over in the Heat/Silence of the Lambs corner. As such it's a little more glaring when someone keels over from what should have been a painful but non-fatal wound. Winter Soldier was more Moonraker than French Connection and therefore gets more of a pass on things like that.

Though in TWS' case it was the opposite. Instead of people dying from flesh wounds they had guys like Nick Fury shrugging off lethal damage as if it WAS a flesh wound.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

TDK didn't really present itself as a "funny book" movie though. It clearly wanted to be over in the Heat/Silence of the Lambs corner. As such it's a little more glaring when someone keels over from what should have been a painful but non-fatal wound. Winter Soldier was more Moonraker than French Connection and therefore gets more of a pass on things like that.

I can't agree too much with this appraisal when we have Batman flying across rooftops in China, Joker blowing up hospitals and holding boatloads of people hostage, Batman using his cell phone technology to create the greatest super spying gadget the world has ever seen, freakin' Two-Face, etc. It was certainly hyper-realistic in major ways. Not that Heat or Silence of the Lambs were particularly realistic. Or even the super villain instincts of the Frenchman in the French Connection, when he's hopping on and off the train to avoid Popeye.