David Ayer's Academy Award winning "Suicide Squad"

[spindrift]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Mondo print rocks!

 

[franpincho]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Everything about this sucks.

 

[karamazov80]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Has a Bart Sears quality to it. And I dig that. But I don't dig anything else about it.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

that print is trully terrible

Yup, not buying it

 

[BeefEaster]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

SS's RT score has officially dropped lower than BvS's and all the reviews haven't even been counted yet. How low can it go? I'm gonna say 19%.

 

[GasparZizou]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I don't want to sound like hipster *********, but Mondo is pretty overrated imo, don't like that print at all, and I've seen better stuff on deviant art than most of their prints. Their stuff feels more like a postcard stand than actual art.

Not that the source material for that print was any good to begin with...

I know I sound like a dbag.

 

[BetterThanKenobi83]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I don't want to sound like hipster *********, but Mondo is pretty overrated imo, don't like that print at all, and I've seen better stuff on deviant art than most of their prints.

Not that the source material for that print was any good to begin with...

I know I sound like a dbag.

They can do good stuff, like I love what they did for Aliens with their lv 426 day merchandise, but overall they are indeed hit or miss with me too. Again, I think it has to do with what source material they are working with to begin with.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Truthfully, other places like HCG and Botteneck Gallery have been beating Mondo for a while, although Mondo still puts out really good prints occasionally

 

[I Am Toys]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Damn, just read China may not even get to see this movie due to the Beijing Censorship Committee. I understand they tend to veer away from "dark" movies, but c'mon.


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[gogul1]

DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Just got back from seeing it. Ok well I don't think its as bad as BvS but I also don't think its an effective ensemble movie. Minor spoilers below.
Deadshot got a few good moments and the bit with him standing on the car shooting with the orchestral score rising was actually great.
Harley's accent was all over the place and the majority of her jokes fell flat. No one in the cinema was laughing.
Diablo, during the end sequence, was actually quite good and his arc was interesting up until the bit where he gets cheesy with the "family" crap. Too forced.
Cara (Enchantress) can't act. She is ****. I mean, go back and watch it again she is about as convincing as Bill Clinton was when he denied permanently destroying Monica's favourite work dress.
Batman actually behaved like Batman in this film so they get a thumbs up for that. He arrests people and saves criminals from drowning (whereas in BvS he'd have not only let them drown but would have also chucked a sack of unwanted kittens in as well).
Croc was... there. I think.
Boomerang left and then... Came back? No explanation, just appeared next to Harley as they walked along. ****er would have been gone quicker than the purple ones in a bag of starburst.
Katana was so 1 dimensional. She's basically Miho from Sin City.
Joel Kinnerman was ok, he did his thing.
It was the bit where they all had to join up that the film fell apart because it felt like they didn't earn it.
The pop soundtrack just felt tacked on in some scenes, just to fill some quiet moments for fear of the audience getting bored.
Letoker was psychotic, weird, unpredictable, nasty, sane and manic. But I couldn't help thinking it was a version of Joker that a fan film would have done. "Ok Jared, act weird, and... Action!"

But in all honesty at least it made basic sense. It wasn't bogged down with a plot that was so convoluted it would never have worked *cough Lex cough*
Just watch it as a simple action film and its ok. A bit like The Losers. Hey does anyone remember The Losers movie? Nope, me neither, can't for the life of me remember anything about that film.
Also the whole thing with Amanda Waller saying "I'm putting a team together to handle Metahumans wouldn't have worked with a crazy human girl with a baseball bat, a boomerang throwing drinker and a masked girl with a samurai sword. One punch and they'd all be ****ing dead. They should have tried the smaller scale approach like breaking into Arkham to retrieve documents or extract another prisoner Waller couldn't get hold of.
But it's something to look at while you graze on popcorn and drink the biggest caffeinated beverage they sell in the cinema.
****, now I really fancy a hot dog.
Mmmmmmmm hotdog....

 

[a-dev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

2 of my brothers have seen it today, one of them said it was ***t. I await the judgement from the other.

 

[Starscream Soundwave]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Just got round to seeing it. As with BvS there were some good points, but on the whole it was a bit of a mess. Felt very forced at times.


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[I Am Toys]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Just got round to seeing it. As with BvS there were some good points, but on the whole it was a bit of a mess. Felt very forced at times.


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I enjoyed the movie overall, but yeah, scenes, plot, pacing were all very disjointed. And the acting was painful to watch in a couple of spots. I really thought Ayer was going to pull this off. He should have just made a Harley and Joker "romance" movie. Those were some of the parts that really shined for me.


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[Adolfo]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

BvS > S S

 

[crows]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I know some of us were blaming the studio and the second cut they made and the Audience feedback

But with SO much wrong with this movie, SO much complaints, it cant just be the studio's fault, I think Ayer is at fault as well. There is no way this much problems happened for making a new edit of the movie.

 

[darthkush]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I liked it. Some very light spoilers ahead...

Spoiler

so...I liked it overall but all the criticisms make sense too.

SPOILERS(obviously....)

People say the villains are terrible. The villains being The Enchantress and..her brother. Her brother is just some kind of a cgi creature who is also played by some background actor for about 3 minutes. He's just more or less a special effect. If you just think of him that way, he's still crappy but he wasn't offensively so. He didn't bother me. Enchantress is pretty cool but once she turns ino...Evil Lynn from He-man she's just a stock "evil" sorceress. But even then I didn't mind her. For me, these bad guys were just action cartoons..with real people. I was fine with that.

The Joker? He was there and his only function was to play off of Harley Quinn but again, I was fine with that. It was like they put the needs of the story first on that one. Joker wasn't a main character and Harley was so his only function was as a Love interest/foil to her. Leto has plenty of time to show us his version of this character and it's a decent introduction. It's too little to say if he's anywhere near as good as Ledger or even Nicholson but it's a decent portrayal.

People are complaining about the editing. You can definitely feel it but it's not as jarring or cut up as Batman v Superman which almost felt like a bunch of scenes thrown together randomly at times(at least in it's theatrical cut). Are there too many needledropped pop songs? More than normal but they fit the scenes and the characters so I wasn't put out by it.

One thing nobody can really complain about for me, is the acting. Every actor, no matter how small or big a part they played was totally invested. Will Smith's Deadshot is just...Will Smith as an assassin BUT that was okay because Smith was invested. I cared more about him than I did about anybody in the other two DC films so far. Also faring well was Margot Robbie's Harley Quinn. She really was the Harley Quinn from the cartoons and the older comics. Yeah, she was definitely dressed like new 52/Arkham Asylum Harley but this was classic Harley(and in one shot, she IS in her old red/black costume which was cool to see. Hell, that shot was her first comic appearance come to life. Batman: Harley Quinn number 1 from I think 1996 or so). I mean, really, she was great. I don't see how anyone could dislike her performance. Even the squad members that said very little were so invested. Katana and Killer Croc barely spoke but both spoke volumes through their body language/facial expressions and in Croc's case, some well timed growls and occasional one liners. Jai Courtney? Someone finally gave him something he could do. His Capt. Boomerang is mostly comic relief but it's easily the best thing he's ever played. His sea of blandness might have finally stopped. I thought Rick Flagg was kind of a dull character but Joel Kinneman does what he can with what has admittedly always been a dull character. Viola Davis as Amanda Waller is great. She fully embodied that character and was just like she was in the damn Justice League cartoons from 15 years ago. The MVP of the whole squad is Jay Hernandez's Diablo. What a wonderful character. Hernandez puts everything he has into this portrayal and I'm pretty sure he's director David Ayers favorite too. He seems to get the most development outside of Harley and Deadshot.

How is Batman? Better than in BvsS(again). He's in it very little and Affleck has like 4 lines(if that) but he's used to such great effect. His scenes with Deadshot and Harley remind me of some kind of lost episode of batman the animated series. I laughed out loud when Batman confronted Harley underwater. That was straight out of the damn old cartoons. The other major Justice League cameo should've been longer. My audience got visibly excited when he showed up. I would've liked more than one damn line though.

It wasn't the best superhero film of the year but it's easily the best of DC's efforts this year and it's much better directed than Man of Steel. I thought it was about as good as Deadpool overall as the performances in this film simply outclass that one but this one's problems are more prominent than the ones in that film.

And Since I didn't mention them in there, I think Civil war and x-men apocalypse were much better. It's nowhere close to Civil War. You'll find my comparisons to deadpool and Batman v Superman inside.

 

[GasparZizou]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I know some of us were blaming the studio and the second cut they made and the Audience feedback

But with SO much wrong with this movie, SO much complaints, it cant just be the studio's fault, I think Ayer is at fault as well. There is no way this much problems happened for making a new edit of the movie.

Of course it can, you yourself posted a ton of cut scenes that sounded fantastic and were supposedly replaced with passé music over ****** montages.

 

[crows]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Of course it can, you yourself posted a ton of cut scenes that sounded fantastic and were supposedly replaced with passé music over ****** montages.

yeah but like Enchantress being terrible, and the music choices, and the mission being dumb, the ending being all CGI crapfest. that would have stayed in his version too

 

[BetterThanKenobi83]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I know some of us were blaming the studio and the second cut they made and the Audience feedback

But with SO much wrong with this movie, SO much complaints, it cant just be the studio's fault, I think Ayer is at fault as well. There is no way this much problems happened for making a new edit of the movie.

Is it still worth seeing you think if I can go see it for ten bucks ?

 

[GasparZizou]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

yeah but like Enchantress being terrible, and the music choices, and the mission being dumb, the ending being all CGI crapfest. that would have stayed in his version too

But those music choices aren't there in the other version according to what you posted, and the mission is dumb? I didn't know that But I don't know, all that stuff you posted sounded fantastic for me to believe there wasn't a better movie around.