Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
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David Ayer's Academy Award winning "Suicide Squad"
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
I liked it. I would stop short of saying I loved it but I definitely really liked it. So let's get to my two cents (in spoiler tags just in case)
The film was a mess, I'm not debating that but it was an entertaining one. A solid C+, I enjoyed it.
I liked it. I would stop short of saying I loved it but I definitely really liked it. So let's get to my two cents (in spoiler tags just in case)
So let's start with some cons here, I thought the music was distracting. It definitely felt shoehorned and it was loud and pulled me out. It was an attempt to add modern music and could have worked if it was a forethought but it definitely felt like an afterthought. This is definitely the group and the kind of movie to use that kind of musical interlude but it just wasn't organic. There were too many "side" characters. Scott Eastwood's character I kept feeling like he was important but I didn't know why and then he turned out to be just a soldier. Katana felt shoehorned, "ooh she backs me up, oh she is special, has a special sword." Slipknot was just to prove what could be done and that one was almost hilarious because they didn't even bother to backstory him. The Enchantress storyline felt unneeded. They could have done a non-Metahuman thing and gotten the same result, which I felt was just bringing the team together. Even the Enchantress herself was kind of meh. The titles for each character felt a little too video gamey and the end was a bit a of a head scratcher, it just sort of ended.
The thing is though the cameos were done great, they felt organic unlike BvS where it felt sort of shoe horned in. Batfleck was ****ing awesome. I am not a big fan of Will Smith but he was great, made me like the character. Margot Robbie was Harley Quinn, nailed it without question, even the voice hit. I loved Croc even though it was funny looking once the clothes came off, a bit too skinny. I liked Leto's Joker, it wasn't at the level of Ledger's Joker but then again Ledger existed in a vacuum, like his Batman. I couldn't picture a Harley Quinn with Ledger's version, it wouldn't fit but here it was fine. He had a genuine scary quality to him because the deaths were so quick and lacking of any real substance, so essentially everyone could have died around him, it was a neat change but he definitely was in it a bit too much for a cameo and not enough to be a substantial character.
El Diablo didn't really hit with me either. His whole zen thing then finding out his backstory and his heroic moment fell flat to me. I just didn't care. It was a moment that you were supposed to connect with the character but it didn't work. Even afterwards I said to me wife "Wait, he died?" I figured because he was fire based he'd had survived a blast. I wasn't sad he was gone. I didn't really like Rick Flag but I LOVED Amanda Waller. She felt like she'd kill anyone without even flinching and it was great, I hope we see her more in the rest of the properties.
One thing that bugged me is that if Midtown City was getting wrecked and metahumans were around including Batman who had contact with Waller or Flash that took in Boomerang, why didn't they show up? Marvel has this problem too once Avengers hit where you wonder where they'd be in the solos but here it was different, the villains were on need to know which means the heroes wouldn't know and so why didn't they show?
I didn't like the mid credits scene either. In the restaurant talking openly especially with Waller being scared didn't feel natural. That whole thing felt like it should have occurred in an alleyway somewhere with Bruce in full bat-gear talking to her.
I'm interested in seeing a sequel if anything just to see who gets added to the team since it took a few casualties.
The thing is though the cameos were done great, they felt organic unlike BvS where it felt sort of shoe horned in. Batfleck was ****ing awesome. I am not a big fan of Will Smith but he was great, made me like the character. Margot Robbie was Harley Quinn, nailed it without question, even the voice hit. I loved Croc even though it was funny looking once the clothes came off, a bit too skinny. I liked Leto's Joker, it wasn't at the level of Ledger's Joker but then again Ledger existed in a vacuum, like his Batman. I couldn't picture a Harley Quinn with Ledger's version, it wouldn't fit but here it was fine. He had a genuine scary quality to him because the deaths were so quick and lacking of any real substance, so essentially everyone could have died around him, it was a neat change but he definitely was in it a bit too much for a cameo and not enough to be a substantial character.
El Diablo didn't really hit with me either. His whole zen thing then finding out his backstory and his heroic moment fell flat to me. I just didn't care. It was a moment that you were supposed to connect with the character but it didn't work. Even afterwards I said to me wife "Wait, he died?" I figured because he was fire based he'd had survived a blast. I wasn't sad he was gone. I didn't really like Rick Flag but I LOVED Amanda Waller. She felt like she'd kill anyone without even flinching and it was great, I hope we see her more in the rest of the properties.
One thing that bugged me is that if Midtown City was getting wrecked and metahumans were around including Batman who had contact with Waller or Flash that took in Boomerang, why didn't they show up? Marvel has this problem too once Avengers hit where you wonder where they'd be in the solos but here it was different, the villains were on need to know which means the heroes wouldn't know and so why didn't they show?
I didn't like the mid credits scene either. In the restaurant talking openly especially with Waller being scared didn't feel natural. That whole thing felt like it should have occurred in an alleyway somewhere with Bruce in full bat-gear talking to her.
I'm interested in seeing a sequel if anything just to see who gets added to the team since it took a few casualties.
The film was a mess, I'm not debating that but it was an entertaining one. A solid C+, I enjoyed it.
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
BvS is a better film, but SS has more replay value, mainly because the cast is likable, imo.
BvS is a better film, but SS has more replay value, mainly because the cast is likable, imo.
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
I dug the hell out of it and found it immensely satisfying. The characters felt like they were lifted right off the page. And I've never been a big fan of the Suicide Squad comic and only read it occasionally so I honestly wasn't a big fan going in nor was I extremely pumped for it when it was announced as a film. But I thought it was emotionally engaging and I really loved its quirkiness and overall tone. Harley, Deadshot, El Diablo and Waller were fantastic, especially Harley and Waller. I laughed a lot during the film and left with a big smile on my face. 8/10 for me.
I dug the hell out of it and found it immensely satisfying. The characters felt like they were lifted right off the page. And I've never been a big fan of the Suicide Squad comic and only read it occasionally so I honestly wasn't a big fan going in nor was I extremely pumped for it when it was announced as a film. But I thought it was emotionally engaging and I really loved its quirkiness and overall tone. Harley, Deadshot, El Diablo and Waller were fantastic, especially Harley and Waller. I laughed a lot during the film and left with a big smile on my face. 8/10 for me.
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
My wife and I enjoyed it, Harley was entertaining, Deadshot and Diablo were good. I personally hated the Enchantress, especially during the final battle. I kept asking myself, "why is she dancing?". The "SFX" behind her on the "altar" were laughable (they looked like people dancing with their arms raised underneath a cloth)...something out of an 80's sci-fi movie. I'd give it a 7/10.
My wife and I enjoyed it, Harley was entertaining, Deadshot and Diablo were good. I personally hated the Enchantress, especially during the final battle. I kept asking myself, "why is she dancing?". The "SFX" behind her on the "altar" were laughable (they looked like people dancing with their arms raised underneath a cloth)...something out of an 80's sci-fi movie. I'd give it a 7/10.
jye4ever
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
Well, Ayer certainly is smarter than Josh Trank:
maybe there is a magical Actually Good Cut that David Ayer has sitting on his hard drive.
“…there’s definitely over 10 minutes of [deleted] material on [the forthcoming home video release]. But this cut of the movie is my cut, there’s no sort of parallel universe version of the movie, the released movie is my cut,” Ayer told Collider. “And that’s one of the toughest things about writing, shooting, and directing a film, is you end up with these orphans and you ****ing love them and you think they’d be amazing scenes and do these amazing things but the film is a dictatorship (laughs), not a democracy, and just because something’s cool and charismatic doesn’t mean it gets to survive in the final cut. The flow of the movie is the highest master.”
That's a weird sentiment as the movie has no flow...
Will Ayer change his tune? Remember, this quote comes from a guy doing press for his movie. He doesn't want to tell you to wait out the theatrical version for the far superior version. And he's playing nice - this is the same Ayers who denied the reshoots were to get closer to the tone of the first full trailer and the guy who immediately backpedaled on his '**** Marvel!' comment, so I think he's just being a good soldier. Suicide Squad is making money, and if WB thinks they can make even more with an Ultimate Edition you can bet there will be an Ultimate Edition at some point.
Well, Ayer certainly is smarter than Josh Trank:
maybe there is a magical Actually Good Cut that David Ayer has sitting on his hard drive.
“…there’s definitely over 10 minutes of [deleted] material on [the forthcoming home video release]. But this cut of the movie is my cut, there’s no sort of parallel universe version of the movie, the released movie is my cut,” Ayer told Collider. “And that’s one of the toughest things about writing, shooting, and directing a film, is you end up with these orphans and you ****ing love them and you think they’d be amazing scenes and do these amazing things but the film is a dictatorship (laughs), not a democracy, and just because something’s cool and charismatic doesn’t mean it gets to survive in the final cut. The flow of the movie is the highest master.”
That's a weird sentiment as the movie has no flow...
Will Ayer change his tune? Remember, this quote comes from a guy doing press for his movie. He doesn't want to tell you to wait out the theatrical version for the far superior version. And he's playing nice - this is the same Ayers who denied the reshoots were to get closer to the tone of the first full trailer and the guy who immediately backpedaled on his '**** Marvel!' comment, so I think he's just being a good soldier. Suicide Squad is making money, and if WB thinks they can make even more with an Ultimate Edition you can bet there will be an Ultimate Edition at some point.
The Clown Prince of Crime
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
I want to see all the Leto Joker scenes. I want to see him peeing on Harley.
I want to see all the Leto Joker scenes. I want to see him peeing on Harley.
jye4ever
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
Come kids, come watch the awesome Harley Quinn ************* scene.
Parents would lose their minds.
Come kids, come watch the awesome Harley Quinn ************* scene.
Parents would lose their minds.
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
I'd pay to see that.
I'd pay to see that.
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
So was this scene entirely cut? Did they cut out the back hand slap as well?
So was this scene entirely cut? Did they cut out the back hand slap as well?
The Clown Prince of Crime
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
Yeah, the whole thing is gone. The bike chase, the confrontation, Harley pointing the gun at joker, killing the guy, joker slapping her, peeing on her and the dance...gone.
Yeah, the whole thing is gone. The bike chase, the confrontation, Harley pointing the gun at joker, killing the guy, joker slapping her, peeing on her and the dance...gone.
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
I have a feeling Ayer is lying through his teeth. You don't put a scene like that in your script, get it approved, film the scene and then turn around and say **** it, this doesn't belong in the movie.
I have a feeling Ayer is lying through his teeth. You don't put a scene like that in your script, get it approved, film the scene and then turn around and say **** it, this doesn't belong in the movie.
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
did they really film a scene of joker peeing on harley? where are we getting that info?
did they really film a scene of joker peeing on harley? where are we getting that info?
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
There's a video from the set. The peeing is debatable. After he slaps her, he stands over her and it looks like he's peeing on her...maybe he was just talking. Then she gets up and gets in the pink car with Joker.
did they really film a scene of joker peeing on harley? where are we getting that info?
There's a video from the set. The peeing is debatable. After he slaps her, he stands over her and it looks like he's peeing on her...maybe he was just talking. Then she gets up and gets in the pink car with Joker.
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DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
Nothing wrong with Hip Hop at all, then again you probably haven't heard enough of it to actually form an opinion on it
Shimmy Shimmy ya was used in the Luke Cage trailer to perfection, that's a rap song that's actually a classic. Problem with this movie is the horrible songs they picked and used them in horrible scenes they didn't even fit in.
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Nothing wrong with Hip Hop at all, then again you probably haven't heard enough of it to actually form an opinion on it
Shimmy Shimmy ya was used in the Luke Cage trailer to perfection, that's a rap song that's actually a classic. Problem with this movie is the horrible songs they picked and used them in horrible scenes they didn't even fit in.
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The Clown Prince of Crime
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
Even moments we saw in the trailer were cut. The "I can't wait to show you my toys" was cut, but that sequence is in the film.
Even moments we saw in the trailer were cut. The "I can't wait to show you my toys" was cut, but that sequence is in the film.
GasparZizou
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
A video of the filming of that scene was leaked early on, it's easy to find.
did they really film a scene of joker peeing on harley? where are we getting that info?
A video of the filming of that scene was leaked early on, it's easy to find.
GasparZizou
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
I seem to remember there were people that were rumoring a Joker peeing on Harley scene before the video leaked, like it was on the script or something.
I seem to remember there were people that were rumoring a Joker peeing on Harley scene before the video leaked, like it was on the script or something.
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)
Yeah, Ayer comes across as a total team player even though the changes scream studio interference. Guy know where his bread is buttered. And it takes maturity to do that.
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Yeah, Ayer comes across as a total team player even though the changes scream studio interference. Guy know where his bread is buttered. And it takes maturity to do that.
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