David Ayer's Academy Award winning "Suicide Squad"

[Victοr]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

yeah for every x-men blade and spiderman id take a fantastic four Elektra and catwoman, woopdeedoo

Eh, it's none of my business. Like what you like.

 

[ZaCHw117]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Cast is definitely helping to sell a lot of the tickets for Suicide Squad.


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Big cast names are Will Smith and Jared Leto.

Suicide Squad opening weekend BO: 133.6 million.

Their last movies:

Concussion: 54.5 million domestic.

Focus: 53. 8 million domestic.

After Earth: 60.5 million domestic.

Dallas Buyers Club: 27.2 million domestic

Mr Nobody: 3,000$ Domesitc.

Chapter 27: 56,000$ Domestic.

Suicide Squad almost made more then all 6 combined in it's first weekend.

Theory doesn't hold up, Smith might be making some ticket sales, but he doesn't like he used too. It's word of mouth, and great marketing.

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

the Nolan films were a while ago and no 3d, but I'm talking about the steady dis interested in mcu movies not box office # battles.

The fact that the Marvel films share a universe isn't the problem, it's just that there's so damn many of them. Any series or franchise is a "connected universe" anyway. The difference with Marvel is that instead of giving three movies in a row with just Batman as the protagonist they change it up from film to film. But just like BB teasingthe Joker and then sequeing into TDK you have Marvel's Civil War doing the same with but Black Panther or whatever.

None of that is bad, it's just that when I'm watching a film (regardless if it's something linear like Harry Potter or some interconnected Marvel "universe") that feels like it's Part 7 of 23 then it gets a little hard to stay invested in drama that I know will still be strung out across umpteen future films. I say bring in as many characters as they want, the more the merrier, but please have an epic finale in sight and wrap the damn things up. Then if the studios want to milk the universe they can just wait a few years, let people get excited again, and then reboot the whole thing.

 

[bboy]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Big cast names are Will Smith and Jared Leto.

Suicide Squad opening weekend BO: 133.6 million.

Their last movies:

Concussion: 54.5 million domestic.

Focus: 53. 8 million domestic.

After Earth: 60.5 million domestic.

Dallas Buyers Club: 27.2 million domestic

Mr Nobody: 3,000$ Domesitc.

Chapter 27: 56,000$ Domestic.

Suicide Squad almost made more then all 6 combined in it's first weekend.

Theory doesn't hold up, Smith might be making some ticket sales, but he doesn't like he used too. It's word of mouth, and great marketing.

yeah most people didn't even like the casting of will

 

[greygoose]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

PG-13

It's a 15 over here.

 

[bboy]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

It's a 15 over here.

hmm that's not surprising , I was pretty surprised about the language in a pg13 movie here

 

[Starscream Soundwave]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Big cast names are Will Smith and Jared Leto.

Suicide Squad opening weekend BO: 133.6 million.

Their last movies:

Concussion: 54.5 million domestic.

Focus: 53. 8 million domestic.

After Earth: 60.5 million domestic.

Dallas Buyers Club: 27.2 million domestic

Mr Nobody: 3,000$ Domesitc.

Chapter 27: 56,000$ Domestic.

Suicide Squad almost made more then all 6 combined in it's first weekend.

Theory doesn't hold up, Smith might be making some ticket sales, but he doesn't like he used too. It's word of mouth, and great marketing.

Missing the point pal. Lots of younger people have a lot of interest in the likes of Cara and Margot. Throw in Smith and Leto and all of a sudden you've got a lot of people with no interest in the idea of the film itself wanting to go and see it.

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Missing the point pal. Lots of younger people have a lot of interest in the likes of Cara and Margot. Throw in Smith and Leto and all of a sudden you've got a lot of people with no interest in the idea of the film itself wanting to go and see it.

I think his point stands. No one in SS is a box office draw in and of themselves or even teamed up with each other (as we saw with Will and Margot in Focus.) Paper Towns didn't make a lot, neither did any particular Jared Leto movie and so forth. What interested people were the *characters* they were seeing in those trailers and the finished film.

Any other movie with the same "cast" would in no way be some guaranteed hit.

 

[greygoose]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

hmm that's not surprising , I was pretty surprised about the language in a pg13 movie here

I didn't even realise it was a 15 rating until I heard swearing in the trailers.

 

[Starscream Soundwave]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I think his point stands. No one in SS is a box office draw in and of themselves or even teamed up with each other (as we saw with Will and Margot in Focus.) Paper Towns didn't make a lot, neither did any particular Jared Leto movie and so forth. What interested people were the *characters* they were seeing in those trailers and the finished film.

Any other movie with the same "cast" would in no way be some guaranteed hit.

I'm not talking about the audience as a whole. Just a decent sized slice of it which will have gone to see SS purely to see some of their favourite celebrities together.

 

[pturtle]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Exactly. All the announced DC movies are based on their most famous characters. I don't really see the diversity in that line-up...



Eh, it's a DC thread, and most folks here are purely DC fans. I wouldn't think much more of it. More often than not, it blinds you. I don't see the logic in "Cap and Tony pop up every year, so Batman and Superman popping up every year is a refreshing change". But hey, whatever floats your boat. Personally speaking, call me when they make a JL Dark movie with no big name characters. That's gonna be ballsy.

I kinda hate the MCU but there are some movies in there I do enjoy, Iron Man, and GOTG are really solid movies in my opinion. I even agree with Difabio that Guardians was far better than The Force Awakens and it doesn't even feel right to compare it to Suicide Squad, it's just too insulting.

No, they enjoyed SS because it's full of new characters they've never heard of and fell in love with. And that it's a dramatic change from CB movies in the last 5 years. It's not kiddy like Disney's properties, but just as fun and it's aimed towards a more mature audience. Marvel has banked for a long time on two characters. I consider my friends GA as they don't even know what timeline the MCU goes in, and one of them hasn't seen MOS or BvS but loved the Squad.

The trailers showed off Batman, Joker, Harley Quinn and Will Smith, those are heavy hitter characters right there. One of the trailers even starts off with name dropping Superman.

This movie is in no way mature, it's obviously aimed at the teenage crowd. Why do you think Letoker is showing up in Rick Ross and Skrillex videos

even civil war "the greatest supa hero movie ever!!!" "The only movie with perfect action!!" "finally a good spiderman!!" couldn't even reach the crappy avengers 2 numbers

Yea but either have any of the DC movies. I mean they put out a movie with Batman and Superman's name in the title and it couldn't make more than Iron Man 3 and that movie didn't have the best word of mouth.

Big cast names are Will Smith and Jared Leto.

Suicide Squad opening weekend BO: 133.6 million.

Their last movies:

Concussion: 54.5 million domestic.

Focus: 53. 8 million domestic.

After Earth: 60.5 million domestic.

Dallas Buyers Club: 27.2 million domestic

Mr Nobody: 3,000$ Domesitc.

Chapter 27: 56,000$ Domestic.

Suicide Squad almost made more then all 6 combined in it's first weekend.

Theory doesn't hold up, Smith might be making some ticket sales, but he doesn't like he used too. It's word of mouth, and great marketing.

Marketing was definitely great.

Is word of mouth the reason why Transformer movies do so well too?

I honestly doubt this movie will top BvS number but if it does then I'm really scared what might happen in the industry if studios start copying this movie



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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I honestly doubt this movie will top BvS number but if it does then I'm really scared what might happen in the industry if studios start copying this movie

Well, this film is a copy of GOTG, but I can see other studios copying the SS marketing and trailer style if this film makes more than BVS.

I mean, SS already copied the marketing when they change the original tone and style of the film to make it more like the trailer

 

[pturtle]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Well, this film is a copy of GOTG, but I can see other studios copying the SS marketing and trailer style if this film makes more than BVS.

Yea that's what I meant. Imagine if Batfleck show up in a Lil Wayne video next?

But I am also scared that studios might be making movies aimed at teenagers, this movie definitely was that, Guardians was more of a space adventure family film.


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[jye4ever]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Does Halo count? I was betrayed...left behind like Rambo

 

[karamazov80]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Given the edginess of the final cut, I think it's unfair to say that this was targeting teens guys. . .preteens, sure.

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[YoNoSe]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Given the edginess of the final cut, I think it's unfair to say that this was targeting teens guys. . .preteens, sure.

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Doesn't seem to be working on these pre-teens.

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Doesn't seem to be working on these pre-teens.

Yeah pturtle and Clown Prince hated it so I'm not sure what karamazov was getting at.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

An Open letter to WB from a former employee.

https://www.aggressivecomix.com/open-letter-warner-brother-executives-hits-hard/

Warner Bros is the flag ship to DC Comics and the DC Cinematic Universe as many of you know. The field has been split in terms of people’s reactions and feelings on EVERY DC property that has been released since Man of Steel.

With the past films coming out and getting the love hate they have been getting it is no surpise that some are getting truly upset. The following is an open letter to Warner Brothers Exec. from a former employee hoping that Warner Bros. will one day return to the great company it once was.

An Open Letter To Warner Bros CEO Kevin Tsujihara About Layoffs, Zack Snyder, and Donuts

When I left my screening of Suicide Squad last week, I was angry. I was annoyed and let down and frustrated as well, but mostly I was just angry.

Look, I’m a big dork. So of course I thought this trainwreck of a movie did a major disservice to the characters, concept, cast, and crew, but that wasn’t why I was mad. Yes, it is unfathomable to me that Warner Bros could mess up a movie starring Will Smith, Margot Robbie, and The Joker so completely. But that just had me flummoxed.

I was angry because I couldn’t stop thinking about you, Kevin Tsujihara.

A lot of fans might be angry (and rightfully so) because you keep completely whiffing at properties that they are desperate to love and enjoy, but this is a little more personal for me. See, I am a former Warner Bros employee. I have so much respect for your studio. I love every square inch of that magical backlot, from Stars Hollow to the fitness center I always meant to use. The people I worked with during my time with your company are now close friends. On my last day, I hugged them and I told them I loved them.

I was also there in 2014, when you made the decision to lay off 10 percent of your workforce. It was a terrible year. Let me catch you up: Every morning I woke up with a pit in my stomach, because I assumed that would be the day I lost my job. Every day I saw someone packing up their desk, or carrying a box to their car. I can not describe to you the relief I felt when my department was told we were safe, or the guilt I felt afterwards walking through the halls of my office with that relief.

But out of all that, the thing that really sticks with me is the memo you sent to all of us. Let me refresh you on my favorite part:

I wanted you to hear directly from me about our plans for the studio. In recent days, we have started to hear rumors here at the company and to read misinformation in the press, so I’d like to set the record straight. I know that the hard work and dedication of every employee around the world is the key to Warner Bros.’ success, and I am sorry for the distraction this situation brings to the workplace.


At Warner Bros., we work with the world’s most extraordinary storytellers, and our focus has always been to provide the creative environment and financial resources they need to realize their vision. Our commitment to that won’t change. In fact, we’re investing more than ever in our film and television productions.

This is how you opened a memo about layoffs. “Hey guys, we work hard for the people telling stories here and we want to make sure those visions are realized.” The balls on you.

That year we pursued the storytelling vision of Adam Sandler’s Blended and Clint Eastwood’s Jersey Boys. Failures. We pursued a potentially great summer movie like Edge of Tomorrow and completely botched its release. Same with Man From UNCLE. We dug in our heels and hoped The Hobbit Trilogy would somehow stop being a mediocre case of diminishing returns. Talented, loyal people packed their boxes and went home while your story tellers dropped the ball.

One could argue that this was not your fault. That you inherited former CEO Barry Meyer’s agenda and were merely trying to correct the course of an ocean liner heading for an iceberg.

I would not make this argument. And here’s why: I wrote this letter last year. I actually started forming it in my head after Man of Steel was a box office failure instead of the modern classic tentpole you were expecting.

I kept holding off on doing anything with it because of one title: Suicide Squad. Zack Snyder’s Dawn of Justice was a fiasco, but here comes this plucky little dark adventure about antiheroes. I love David Ayer. I love Harley Quinn. I love Will Smith. Put the letter in a drawer. The ship isn’t sinking anymore. Everything is fine. There’s no way this movie is bad.

And here we are. I got back from my screening and dusted this sucker off. You, your executive team, and the vision of your ‘extraordinary storytellers’ that resulted in the loss of around one thousand jobs seem intent on crashing the ship into as much **** as you can find in the ocean by making inane decisions over and over again.

Zack Snyder is not delivering. Is he being punished? Assistants who were doing fantastic work certainly were. People in finance and in marketing and in IT. They had no say in a movie calledBatman V Superman only having 8 minutes of Batman fighting Superman in it, that ends because their moms have the same name. Snyder is a producer on every DC movie. He is still directing Justice League. He is being rewarded with more opportunity to get more people laid off. I’m assuming you yourself haven’t been financially affected in any real way. You and your studio are the biggest lesson about life one can learn: The top screws up and the bottom suffers. Peter Jackson phones it in and a marketing supervisor has to figure out a plan B for house payments.

Your uneven Hall H presentation at Comic Con this year was a ridiculous mess that ranged from rushed to boring. When Marvel announced their full slate of films with a fun fan event several years ago, you announced yours on a shareholder conference call.

You just don’t get it. And it’s not just DC movies, it’s your whole slate. Jupiter Ascending. Get Hard. Hot Pursuit. Max. Vacation. Pan. Point Break. ******** PAN, you jerk. People lost their jobs and you decided Pan was a good idea. You think another Jungle Book is a good idea.

What are you even doing? I wish to God you were forced to live out of a car until you made a #1 movie of the year. Maybe Wonder Woman wouldn’t be such a mess. Don’t try to hide behind the great trailer. People inside are already confirming it’s another mess. It is almost impressive how you keep rewarding the same producers and executives for making the same mistakes, over and over.

If I worked at a donut stand, and I kept ******* up donuts, I’d be fired. Even if I made a tiny decent one every now and then, it doesn’t matter. I’m gonna get fired.

I love that studio, and you’re allowing it to sink. It’s not about making movies for ‘the fans’ and not ‘the critics.’ It’s not even about ‘ruining childhoods.’ It’s about protecting livelihoods.

It’s time to wake up and make the ******* donuts, Kevin.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Yeah pturtle and Clown Prince hated it so I'm not sure what karamazov was getting at.

 

[Khev]

Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

An Open letter to WB from a former employee:

Look, I'm a big dork.

Not sure why he had to reiterate that point across 16 paragraphs but he certainly drove it home well enough.