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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Wasn't there a clip that said he drawers were digitally shortened? That pic proves the weren't....
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

hopefully soon. :pray:

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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

thank god for those spoilers that gaspar posted :lol i dont have to worry about that pic at all :hi5:
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

While I didn't have a huge issue with this Joker (apart from his relationship with Harley), it is hard for me to imagine him being Affleck Batman's greatest foe.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

While I didn't have a huge issue with this Joker (apart from his relationship with Harley), it is hard for me to imagine him being Affleck Batman's greatest foe.

Valid observation, though I don't imagine it helped by having Batman lead off against a guy like Doomsday.

There's a reason Cap didn't face off against Thanos and THEN the Red Skull.
 
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Valid observation, though I don't imagine it helped by having Batman lead off against a guy like Doomsday.

There's a reason Cap didn't face off against Thanos and THEN the Red Skull.

:lol :lol

MCU should've started with Thanos in 2008 and ended with Stane in his armor in IW against all the Avengers. :lol
 
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Valid observation, though I don't imagine it helped by having Batman lead off against a guy like Doomsday.

There's a reason Cap didn't face off against Thanos and THEN the Red Skull.

I thought the Harley jail break showed a level of badassery for this Joker.

And Bartfleck didn't really face off against Doomsday.

Though he would have killed SUperman if not for Marthagate.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

:lol :lol

MCU should've started with Thanos in 2008 and ended with Stane in his armor in IW against all the Avengers. :lol

:lol. That would definitely have been the DCEU approach.

I thought the Harley jail break showed a level of badassery for this Joker.

And Bartfleck didn't really face off against Doomsday.

Though he would have killed SUperman if not for Marthagate.

I didn't say I agreed with his observation or that it was correct, just that it was valid based on what little we saw of him in SS. I think that an equally valid observation is that he *could* be Batman's greatest nemesis, the jury is still out at this point. Leto actually kind of reminded me of the bad guy in 2 Fast 2 Furious. Well dressed, hangs out in nightclubs, has an entourage of babes, goons and neon glowing cars but is just freaky/sinister enough to torch a bucket on someone's stomach with a rat inside.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Personally, I didn't see much to make this Joker seem all that intimidating. Sure, he was able to lead a bunch of vicious goons around. But that could apply to any given Batman foe--Penguin, Mad Hatter, Clock King, Egghead, etc.

And I think that Batman has been pretty well established, both in BvS, and in Suicide Squad, as a Chuck Norris-level bad-***. Nearly kills Superman, takes down throngs of thugs single-handedly on multiple occasions, avoids being killed by "Doomsday," takes Deadshot down without really breaking a sweat (this was evident before his surrender), and all along displays great detective skills, insight, and uber intelligence.

Joker. . .just seems like a guy Batman could take down without much effort at this point, if he wanted to. Maybe it would be more even if Joker teams up with the rapper and DJ guy on that boat. We'll see how it goes moving forward, though.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

At face value Joker always seems like a guy Batman could get any time he wants. Since we only see Joker dealing with Batman in one scene, taken by surprise while driving (which Joker escapes), it doesn't seem any different than any other incarnation.

In TDK Batman beat up or captured the Joker in every scene they shared.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

At face value Joker always seems like a guy Batman could get any time he wants. Since we only see Joker dealing with Batman in one scene, taken by surprise while driving (which Joker escapes), it doesn't seem any different than any other incarnation.

In TDK Batman beat up or captured the Joker in every scene they shared.
That's true, but nothing about this Joker made him seem to me like the kind of threat that Ledger Joker was, or Nicholson, or the cartoon or comic version. The only really unpredictable thing I recall Joker doing was shooting the guy who didn't want to have sex with Harley. The rest was pretty by the numbers. But the reason the Joker is such an adversary is how he is unconventional, unpredictable, has no real limits on what he'll do or who he'll do it to (Joker's emotional bond to Harley makes this problematic), and stands for things that are so antithetical to Batman's world view. In Suicide Squad he's just shown as a slightly unpredictable criminal, like Tuco in Breaking Bad.

I've read a few people likening the Snyder Luthor more to what Joker should be than Leto Joker, and so far I think I would agree with that.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Current comic Joker beat the crap out of Batman in H2H combat. Maybe Letoker is that good of a fighter. Even Ledger had some good fighting skills, since he easily killed a guy with a pencil.

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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

He's the only cinematic Joker to break into a SuperSuperSuperMax Prison just to get a woman back. :lol

How unthreatening is he again? :lol
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

:lol. That would definitely have been the DCEU approach.



I didn't say I agreed with his observation or that it was correct, just that it was valid based on what little we saw of him in SS. I think that an equally valid observation is that he *could* be Batman's greatest nemesis, the jury is still out at this point. Leto actually kind of reminded me of the bad guy in 2 Fast 2 Furious. Well dressed, hangs out in nightclubs, has an entourage of babes, goons and neon glowing cars but is just freaky/sinister enough to torch a bucket on someone's stomach with a rat inside.

Leto joker was closer to blackmask than a real joker.
Put a skull mask on him and he would be basically blackmask from the cartoon already
 
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