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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Makes me kinda sad that the only way to see the first ever live version of harley quinn is to watch this movie....
I guess i can skip around some stuff
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Makes me kinda sad that the only way to see the first ever live version of harley quinn is to watch this movie... I guess i can skip around some stuff
There's no Harley Quinn in this movie.
No Deadshot, no El Diablo, no Rick Flag. Even Captain Boomerang is not there.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

There's no Harley Quinn in this movie.
No Deadshot, no El Diablo, no Rick Flag. Even Captain Boomerang is not there.

Well i really love the way the blonde girl looks so i wanna see her again.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

In my opinion, yup. Transformers 2 was terrible, but it at least was coherent and what the directed intended to make.
At least there were things I did like about Suicide Squad, like moments involving Deadshot, Boomerang, and Harley (even if the ultimate product was pretty disappointing). No saving graces for the damn Transformers movies. . .well, Peter Cullen's voice, but when he's a disturbing bastardization of the character we loved as kids, it's kind of worse than if they had cast Ice Cube or the Rock or whoever.

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DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

At least there were things I did like about Suicide Squad, like moments involving Deadshot, Boomerang, and Harley (even if the ultimate product was pretty disappointing). No saving graces for the damn Transformers movies. . .well, Peter Cullen's voice, but when he's a disturbing bastardization of the character we loved as kids, it's kind of worse than if they had cast Ice Cube or the Rock or whoever.


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That makes sense.

For me though, and from what I remember (only watched transformer 2 once) watching Transformers 2 I was watching a bad movie straight through, with minor redeeming qualities like the visuals, and action. Watching Suicide Squad was just too jarring, sure there are a few good scenes, but when the overall product is just a mess, and when I can tell it's obviously been tampered with by the studio like Fantastic Four, I can't say it's a better movie. Transformers 2 sucks, Suicide Squad sucks and its broken.

I'll also say this, Suicide Squad had far more cringeworthy scenes compared to Transformers 2. I still can't get over that Ace Chemicals scene with Harley and the Joker.


Edit: I was looking for the Ace Chemicals scene to post again and I came across this video. I couldn't get through it, but it has 4 million views, and the comments in there remind me exactly of the kind of people that really love this movie.

https://youtu.be/DpQGuQ7SXr8
 
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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

I have the digital copy but I've been holding out on the BTS stuff for when my blu gets here! excited for the Harley statue too. :D

Yup! Got a lot of SS goodies ready to roll in. :lol


Hm, not saying the movie is an All-Star perfect movie, but I really don't see how you consider this one of the worst movies ever.

I just spent the last 4 months writing a script for my class in the university, and it is truly some of the hardest stuff you can do. Kubrick even explains the difficulty of script writing. Hell, Allen, the master of screenplays says it is one of the hardest things to do in life.

For what Ayer accomplished in 6 weeks, is respectable. Obviously WB ****ed up by rushing it, but honestly, while we are so saturated with CBM, I'd say SS is still a better product than others like IM2, Thor 2, TIH, FF (all 3), X-Men, Wolverine, Last Stand...I mean, no way in hell this is one of the worst. :lol

I'd say the film getting a 7 is slightly high for what the final product really is, but to me it is a high 9. I think people are overly bias, and give no actual points as to why the film is trash. Realistically all CBM are trash when compared to the fact that studios are intervening and ****ing them up. Honestly, TDK, TWS, and maybe CW, would have to be the 3 best superhero movies out there that didn't get ****ed by the studio chiming in.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Yup! Got a lot of SS goodies ready to roll in. :lol


Hm, not saying the movie is an All-Star perfect movie, but I really don't see how you consider this one of the worst movies ever.

I'd say SS is still a better product than others like IM2, TIH, X-Men, Wolverine, ...I mean, no way in hell this is one of the worst. :lol

I'd say the film getting a 7 is slightly high for what the final product really is, but to me it is a high 9. I think people are overly bias, and give no actual points as to why the film is trash. Realistically all CBM are trash when compared to the fact that studios are intervening and ****ing them up. Honestly, TDK, TWS, and maybe CW, would have to be the 3 best superhero movies out there that didn't get ****ed by the studio chiming in.

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Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

Yup! Got a lot of SS goodies ready to roll in. :lol


Hm, not saying the movie is an All-Star perfect movie, but I really don't see how you consider this one of the worst movies ever.

I just spent the last 4 months writing a script for my class in the university, and it is truly some of the hardest stuff you can do. Kubrick even explains the difficulty of script writing. Hell, Allen, the master of screenplays says it is one of the hardest things to do in life.

For what Ayer accomplished in 6 weeks, is respectable. Obviously WB ****ed up by rushing it, but honestly, while we are so saturated with CBM, I'd say SS is still a better product than others like IM2, Thor 2, TIH, FF (all 3), X-Men, Wolverine, Last Stand...I mean, no way in hell this is one of the worst. :lol

I'd say the film getting a 7 is slightly high for what the final product really is, but to me it is a high 9. I think people are overly bias, and give no actual points as to why the film is trash. Realistically all CBM are trash when compared to the fact that studios are intervening and ****ing them up. Honestly, TDK, TWS, and maybe CW, would have to be the 3 best superhero movies out there that didn't get ****ed by the studio chiming in.


Heres the thing, I respect that you think this movie is 9/10, but why would you assume I’m bias and wanted to hate this movie? I predicted this would be the best comic book movie of the year, the trailers sold me. I love Superman The movie and Superman 2, I love the Dark Knight Trilogy, I grew up on Tim Burton’s Batman films and love them due to nostalgia, I have no reason to hate this movie other then the fact that I thought it was easily top 3 worst comic book movies of all time.

It had an allstar cast, yet the performances were mostly terrible, the movie is horribly edited, the action was meh, Jared Leto gave one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen etc…

It’s one of those movies, like Fantastic Four that just felt so schizophrenic, the tone is all over the place and most of the characters had absolutely no character development. I can literally link scenes from this movie that had my jaw on the ground because I couldn’t believe someone got paid to write this. Its obvious the rushed script, and WB tampering with the final product is the reason why the movie turned out the way it did. This is all just my opinion of course.




This scene always leaves me in shock.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

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Okay, okay. It's closer to a 6. I love the movie, it has flaws, but seeing it 17 times, it makes sense to me haha.

Heres the thing, I respect that you think this movie is 9/10, but why would you assume I’m bias and wanted to hate this movie? I predicted this would be the best comic book movie of the year, the trailers sold me. I love Superman The movie and Superman 2, I love the Dark Knight Trilogy, I grew up on Tim Burton’s Batman films and love them due to nostalgia, I have no reason to hate this movie other then the fact that I thought it was easily top 3 worst comic book movies of all time.

It had an allstar cast, yet the performances were mostly terrible, the movie is horribly edited, the action was meh, Jared Leto gave one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen etc…

It’s one of those movies, like Fantastic Four that just felt so schizophrenic, the tone is all over the place and most of the characters had absolutely no character development. I can literally link scenes from this movie that had my jaw on the ground because I couldn’t believe someone got paid to write this. Its obvious the rushed script, and WB tampering with the final product is the reason why the movie turned out the way it did. This is all just my opinion of course.




This scene always leaves me in shock.


I do apologize actually, my post kind of became a general rant lol. Seeing on SF and Freaks in the SS Harley 1/3, it just bugs me how people say that and literally have no useful criticism. What I meant by bias was people saying Marvel is amazing or Fox (after Deadpool) blah blah blah. It is hypocritical of me since the DC films have been a fresh taste from the usual comedies by Misney. Like I said, it became a general rant, so my bad haha.

I will say, yes, the film is very expository, but that is because of restrictions. You can't have character development in 6 weeks. I've been at it for 4 months, and my characters aren't even the highlights, my supporting characters are actually what everyone enjoys lol. That rolls with WB stepping into that ****. The editing, that's also all WB and the pussified state of society. I'm not condoning domestic abuse, but by altering it because it offends people is the dumbest thing. You'd think that kind of exposure, whether negative or positive, will actually bring attention to the matter.

The acting is subjective. People don't like the zany comic book source, or sometimes don't vibe well with realism (Joker or Superman of the DCEU). I thought the acting was good, especially considering Will Smith plays Will Smith always, Deadshot (while not much) strayed from 100% shot of Will Smith. Margot has plenty of serious roles, so it was nice to see her take on the Harley role, and she did a great job (remember, they go off the script, which isn't amazing as established, so is it really the acting or the script at this point?). Hell, we got Jai Courtney, another nobody that plays himself, and still added humor to the mix. I've already explained why Delevingne is fine especially during her Doomsday device. I think Leto was perfect, every like tic that he has done, has been done so by the Joker, and actually much more mildly. So is it that people want a musical Joker? Making all these weird songs, and explicitly singing, 'Hey, I'm Joker! And I'm Carazzaahhh!'? I think people are more against Leto because they felt his method acting was either taken too far, too weird, or too much of a try hard; and also his look. His acting as the Joker was hot and fresh, but those elements are more so why people (what I believe to be the reason) dislike Leto.

The tone, the pacing, the expository dialogue, the lazy form of introduction, the unoriginal doomsday plot -- all can be attributed to the screenplay, which wasn't given time to do. So I don't blame Ayer, but rather the studio as to why the public doesn't like the movie. I enjoy Ayer's work, and the actors, while some are boring to me, all did the best with it. Also plenty is attributed to the editing, I mean look at the trailer, we got faster cuts making the movie to be some action pack '**** Yeah, we the Squad'...but instead we got something much slower and more tame.


I'm confused by why the scene shocks you? It played to the New 52 origin, which I prefer over the BTAS about some psychiatrist that robs a store and dresses up as a harlequin for a psychopath.
 
Re: DC's "Suicide Squad" (August 5th, 2016)

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Okay, okay. It's closer to a 6. I love the movie, it has flaws, but seeing it 17 times, it makes sense to me haha.



I do apologize actually, my post kind of became a general rant lol. Seeing on SF and Freaks in the SS Harley 1/3, it just bugs me how people say that and literally have no useful criticism. What I meant by bias was people saying Marvel is amazing or Fox (after Deadpool) blah blah blah. It is hypocritical of me since the DC films have been a fresh taste from the usual comedies by Misney. Like I said, it became a general rant, so my bad haha.

I will say, yes, the film is very expository, but that is because of restrictions. You can't have character development in 6 weeks. I've been at it for 4 months, and my characters aren't even the highlights, my supporting characters are actually what everyone enjoys lol. That rolls with WB stepping into that ****. The editing, that's also all WB and the pussified state of society. I'm not condoning domestic abuse, but by altering it because it offends people is the dumbest thing. You'd think that kind of exposure, whether negative or positive, will actually bring attention to the matter.

The acting is subjective. People don't like the zany comic book source, or sometimes don't vibe well with realism (Joker or Superman of the DCEU). I thought the acting was good, especially considering Will Smith plays Will Smith always, Deadshot (while not much) strayed from 100% shot of Will Smith. Margot has plenty of serious roles, so it was nice to see her take on the Harley role, and she did a great job (remember, they go off the script, which isn't amazing as established, so is it really the acting or the script at this point?). Hell, we got Jai Courtney, another nobody that plays himself, and still added humor to the mix. I've already explained why Delevingne is fine especially during her Doomsday device. I think Leto was perfect, every like tic that he has done, has been done so by the Joker, and actually much more mildly. So is it that people want a musical Joker? Making all these weird songs, and explicitly singing, 'Hey, I'm Joker! And I'm Carazzaahhh!'? I think people are more against Leto because they felt his method acting was either taken too far, too weird, or too much of a try hard; and also his look. His acting as the Joker was hot and fresh, but those elements are more so why people (what I believe to be the reason) dislike Leto.

The tone, the pacing, the expository dialogue, the lazy form of introduction, the unoriginal doomsday plot -- all can be attributed to the screenplay, which wasn't given time to do. So I don't blame Ayer, but rather the studio as to why the public doesn't like the movie. I enjoy Ayer's work, and the actors, while some are boring to me, all did the best with it. Also plenty is attributed to the editing, I mean look at the trailer, we got faster cuts making the movie to be some action pack '**** Yeah, we the Squad'...but instead we got something much slower and more tame.


I'm confused by why the scene shocks you? It played to the New 52 origin, which I prefer over the BTAS about some psychiatrist that robs a store and dresses up as a harlequin for a psychopath.

I appreciate keeping it cool man :duff

The acting is subjective, I actually thought Will Smith was decent, but some lines he just couldn’t save, “lady you’re evil!” really sticks out. I thought Margot was solid too, and Jai Courtney I bet did give a good performance but most of his stuff was left in the cutting room floor. The rest I didn’t think were very good though, Leto definitely stuck out to me. Also, going into this movie, I was super excited to see Killer Croc, but to see what his character was in this movie was heartbreaking.

I agree, I believe all the blame goes to WB on this, Ayer has been hit or miss in his career but no way is he as bad as how this movie turned out.

I don’t care Joker jumps in for her or whatever, I just mean the scene itself, how its shot, the music that plays, its just something expect from one of those Nicholas Sparks films, just without the chemicals and all that.


I want to see WB/DC succeed because I’m not enjoying Marvel movies at all these days, and I know competition could make the MCU actually step up their game and do something different. Fox is way too hit and miss, I’m excited for Logan but I’m fully aware it could be absolutely terrible like the first movie turned out.
 
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