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Todd McFarlane
Did Steranko ever draw Supes? I love Steranko.
Todd McFarlane
It gets better and better.
By recently, do you mean the late 1970s ?
No, probably 1986. That's when Frank Miller made Batman grim and gritty. Since Superman first appeared in 1938, he was 48 at the time and is about 75 now. So that's "recent".
Wolverine also came to prominence in the middle 1980s, the Punisher too. The characters were around before then, but got really big starting then.
Slowly but surely the trend was to make more characters grim and gritty (G&G) and alienated and angry (A&A a phrase that I am coining and copyrighting right now!). The character of Wally West's Flash started off that way after CoIE.
Superman was a character that bucked the trend at the time while Byrne's "reboot" of the character was in effect. Now, sadly, that's not the case and Superman is another generic, G&G, A&A character with a popped collar. The A&A trend started with Smallville on television and has now made it into the comics and looks to be going into the movies as well. More is the pity.
The "standard" SSC perfectly captures the essence of Superman before the changes for the worse.
No, probably 1986. That's when Frank Miller made Batman grim and gritty. Since Superman first appeared in 1938, he was 48 at the time and is about 75 now. So that's "recent".
Wolverine also came to prominence in the middle 1980s, the Punisher too. The characters were around before then, but got really big starting then.
Slowly but surely the trend was to make more characters grim and gritty (G&G) and alienated and angry (A&A a phrase that I am coining and copyrighting right now!). The character of Wally West's Flash started off that way after CoIE.
Superman was a character that bucked the trend at the time while Byrne's "reboot" of the character was in effect. Now, sadly, that's not the case and Superman is another generic, G&G, A&A character with a popped collar. The A&A trend started with Smallville on television and has now made it into the comics and looks to be going into the movies as well. More is the pity.
The "standard" SSC perfectly captures the essence of Superman before the changes for the worse.
No, probably 1986. That's when Frank Miller made Batman grim and gritty. Since Superman first appeared in 1938, he was 48 at the time and is about 75 now. So that's "recent".
Wolverine also came to prominence in the middle 1980s, the Punisher too. The characters were around before then, but got really big starting then.
Slowly but surely the trend was to make more characters grim and gritty (G&G) and alienated and angry (A&A a phrase that I am coining and copyrighting right now!). The character of Wally West's Flash started off that way after CoIE.
Superman was a character that bucked the trend at the time while Byrne's "reboot" of the character was in effect. Now, sadly, that's not the case and Superman is another generic, G&G, A&A character with a popped collar. The A&A trend started with Smallville on television and has now made it into the comics and looks to be going into the movies as well. More is the pity.
The "standard" SSC perfectly captures the essence of Superman before the changes for the worse.
All that and I still want to display both portraits.
Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen weren't the beginning of the grim and gritty era. It was the peak.
O'Neil's Green Arrow and Green Lantern stuff was the late 1970s.
And Millar started his grim and gritty feel with Daredevil in 1979.
The Punisher actually came to prominence and popularity in the late 1970s as well (though his solo series didn't start until the mid 1980s)
Hence my joke about late 1970s
Superman got darker as well, just not as dark as those mentioned above.
But even if we take your date of 1986+, that's an applause worthy of backpeddling to say that what you actually meant was that with Superman being 75, the last 25+ years counts as recent. Well done sir
All we're doing in these DC threads while waiting for releases is
I got this fig yesterday I'll post pics in a minute
I got this fig yesterday I'll post pics in a minute
Hey guys ... I have parent teacher interviews again tomorrow night.... If the goes up for PO WHO IS GOING TO HELP ME!!!!
Wow you're still in high school?
I can't wait to see the moaners that miss out on the ex for this.
Wow you're still in high school?
Don't worry man. You may aswell have a nap afterwards aswell he is not going up for PO tomorrow....
I can't wait to see the moaners that miss out on the ex for this.
You and Bruce aren't going to go easy on them are you?