DC Joker Movie (Non-DCEU)

[M United]

What do you mean? He was that universe version of doomsday. They said so. He killed superman and everything. It was done poorly

Luthor called him "your Doomsday" that was all. Snyder also confirmed that the real Doomsday was out there in the DCEU. So this was just a movie villain not a comic book villain. I didn't like it personally they should have chosen something completely new that was issue with BVS along with a version of Luthor i didn't like.

 

[ironwez20]

Luthor called him "your Doomsday" that was all. Snyder also confirmed that the real Doomsday was out there in the DCEU. So this was just a movie villain not a comic book villain. I didn't like it personally they should have chosen something completely new that was issue with BVS along with a version of Luthor i didn't like.

Lol sure. That was damage control. He killed superman, had bones on his face , lex called him doomsday . What are they gonna kill superman s second time with the “ real” doomsday? Link me to where he said that’s not doomsday lol.

 

[csutkakoma]

Luthor called him "your Doomsday" that was all. Snyder also confirmed that the real Doomsday was out there in the DCEU. So this was just a movie villain not a comic book villain. I didn't like it personally they should have chosen something completely new that was issue with BVS along with a version of Luthor i didn't like.

Dude I don't want to sound like an ass but after reading your comments....are you making stuff up as you go? He never said that...it was Doomsday, and no the movie version is NOTHING like the comic counterpart...and also Luthor was nothing like the comics version. Even the silly version of him back in the day was nothing like Eisenberg's version. Read some comics first please...like for real because it is obvious to me that you do not read them...especially not about those versions like you talking about...cause they do not exist...and trust me I read a LOT of DC.

 

[ironwez20]

Apparently they do according to M and that weird “ cool your beans” guy.

Somewhere in the comics Joker has tats and goes to clubs and values Harley

Lex Luther is an unstable 20 something weirdo

And superman breaks necks and destroys cities

And Batman brands people.

But hey.

 

[M United]

Dude I don't want to sound like an ass but after reading your comments....are you making stuff up as you go? He never said that...it was Doomsday, and no the movie version is NOTHING like the comic counterpart...and also Luthor was nothing like the comics version. Even the silly version of him back in the day was nothing like Eisenberg's version. Read some comics first please...like for real because it is obvious to me that you do not read them...especially not about those versions like you talking about...cause they do not exist...and trust me I read a LOT of DC.

No i don't make up stuff as i go. This is was Snyder said NOT WHAT I SAID.

https://comicbook.com/dc/2018/06/15...rector-zack-snyder-says-the-real-doomsday-is/

Like i said i did not like what they did with that villain in BVS i did not like that nor did i like the Luthor but that creature was made the same way Doomsday was made. It was a movie villain that used the same technology that made the real Doomsday.

Now with the Joker i haven't seen enough of him not to like him but hey what is wrong with doing something different they just have to make it good. If i want to see the same movie jokers like the past i will just watch those movies again.

They went with a realistic Superman who was confused and torn between being an alien and human. I liked his arc. If i want the complete package from the get go i will just watch the original Superman.

 

[a-dev]

Even so, what's the point in saying that it wasn't the real Doomsday when they utilized it in the same way as real Doomsday by having it kill Superman? As Ironwez said, are they ever likely to to have the 'real' Doomsday show up and kill Superman again? No. Not in this continuity anyway, they've shot that load already, it's done. So what does it serve to say that it wasn't the real thing?

 

[M United]

All i am saying is it was not the real Doomsday and while most of the movie was written well in my opinion that death of Superman story arc with a movie villain so close to looking like Doomsday was stupid and an insult to us DC fans. I understand why they may have went that way because it was made the same way as the original doomsday but it didnt work out for them especially adding the death of superman story arc to it. I hated that about the movie and i also hated when Batman suddenly became friends with Superman after the Martha scene even though he had hated him for years.

But i look at the whole movie and there where way more positives than negatives for me i enjoyed it overall.

 

[a-dev]

All i am saying is it was not the real Doomsday and while most of the movie was written well in my opinion that death of Superman story arc with a movie villain so close to looking like Doomsday was stupid and an insult to us DC fans. I understand why they may have went that way because it was made the same way as the original doomsday but it didnt work out for them especially adding the death of superman story arc to it. I hated that about the movie and i also hated when Batman suddenly became friends with Superman after the Martha scene even though he had hated him for years.

But i look at the whole movie and there where way more positives than negatives for me i enjoyed it overall.

I certainly agree about the part in bold. Unfortunately I find it to be such a severe black mark against the film as to ruin the whole thing for me. The Batman VS Superman aspect alone could have made it a decent film. I liked how they tied Batman's distrust of Superman into the events of Man of Steel. Man of Steel itself, in hindsight, is a reasonably OK film - I just don't think it should have been an origin movie for Superman. The scale of the threat always felt more like it should have been in a sequel. In fact I think Zod and his fellow Kryptonians felt like a much bigger threat than Steppenwolf in Justice League. Heck, since Superman alone was able to beat Steppenwolf it's reasonable to assume that Zod, Faora and co would have kicked his ass too.

 

[ironwez20]

No i don't make up stuff as i go. This is was Snyder said NOT WHAT I SAID.

https://comicbook.com/dc/2018/06/15...rector-zack-snyder-says-the-real-doomsday-is/

Like i said i did not like what they did with that villain in BVS i did not like that nor did i like the Luthor but that creature was made the same way Doomsday was made. It was a movie villain that used the same technology that made the real Doomsday.

Now with the Joker i haven't seen enough of him not to like him but hey what is wrong with doing something different they just have to make it good. If i want to see the same movie jokers like the past i will just watch those movies again.

They went with a realistic Superman who was confused and torn between being an alien and human. I liked his arc. If i want the complete package from the get go i will just watch the original Superman.

Look I’m sorry but until they reboot that’s the doomsday of the syder verse. You can’t just kill superman twice and expect the same impact.

It’ll be like “ o my gosh. They killed superman. You bastards!”

They did it already . Snyder can damage control all he wants.

When the movie was being made they said “ o he’ll look like the doomsday you know from the comics” when people called him a ninja turtle. There’s nothing you can really say to change the fact that that was doomsday and they messed it up. They ruined it.

As for the joker. Yea it’s nice to have different interpretations, that’s what heath did, but Leto was beyond cringe and came off as a try hard edge gangsta with tats, grillz, jewelry, the whole package.
When I look at the joker I don’t see a sound cloud hot topic rapper .

 

[M United]

Look I’m sorry but until they reboot that’s the doomsday of the syder verse. You can’t just kill superman twice and expect the same impact.

It’ll be like “ o my gosh. They killed superman. You bastards!”

They did it already . Snyder can damage control all he wants.

When the movie was being made they said “ o he’ll look like the doomsday you know from the comics” when people called him a ninja turtle. There’s nothing you can really say to change the fact that that was doomsday and they messed it up. They ruined it.

As for the joker. Yea it’s nice to have different interpretations, that’s what heath did, but Leto was beyond cringe and came off as a try hard edge gangsta with tats, grillz, jewelry, the whole package.
When I look at the joker I don’t see a sound cloud hot topic rapper .

He could very well be backtracking on the Doomsday issue. As i have said many times i hated that movie villain not because it was **** villain but because its so close to looking like Doomsday. If they wanted the death of superman story arc then freaking use DOOMSDAY! Why couldn't Doomsday be locked up in an area on the ship like they did with Krypton on the planet? If they want to change the story a bit there and have him on the ship i have no issues with that. Just dont change the villain.

And with the new Joker i have no idea if he is going to be good or not. He didn't blow my mind but i need to see more to judge his Joker. He is a good actor lets see what he gives us in his next movie.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

All i am saying is it was not the real Doomsday and while most of the movie was written well in my opinion that death of Superman story arc with a movie villain so close to looking like Doomsday was stupid and an insult to us DC fans. I understand why they may have went that way because it was made the same way as the original doomsday but it didnt work out for them especially adding the death of superman story arc to it. I hated that about the movie and i also hated when Batman suddenly became friends with Superman after the Martha scene even though he had hated him for years.

But i look at the whole movie and there where way more positives than negatives for me i enjoyed it overall.

Not the real Doomsday....lol

 

[ironwez20]

He could very well be backtracking on the Doomsday issue. As i have said many times i hated that movie villain not because it was **** villain but because its so close to looking like Doomsday. If they wanted the death of superman story arc then freaking use DOOMSDAY! Why couldn't Doomsday be locked up in an area on the ship like they did with Krypton on the planet? If they want to change the story a bit there and have him on the ship i have no issues with that. Just dont change the villain.

And with the new Joker i have no idea if he is going to be good or not. He didn't blow my mind but i need to see more to judge his Joker. He is a good actor lets see what he gives us in his next movie.

He gave me enough. His interpretation of joker is horrible and they screwed up with doomsday that’s why. They wanted to rush into a recognizable storyline and failed. It’s not that he looks like doomsday that was doomsday and they messed it up . There is no other doomsday out there.

 

[M United]

He gave me enough. His interpretation of joker is horrible and they screwed up with doomsday that’s why. They wanted to rush into a recognizable storyline and failed. It’s not that he looks like doomsday that was doomsday and they messed it up . There is no other doomsday out there.

Agree 100% they rushed into an epic storyline and failed.

 

[dan350zr]

You actually have two great stories with Batman Vs Superman (the Dark Knight returns) and Doomsday vs Superman (The Death of Superman), they should of been two completely different movies but Snider decided to cram them into the same movie.....

 

[ironwez20]

Batman v superman should of been enough. People wanted to see that for years and they ruined it

 

[a-dev]

I remember my shock at seeing what was assumedly Doomsday in the BvS trailer. I instantly had a very bad feeling about it.

 

[M United]

While i still enjoyed the movie overall it did have issues like rushing and frakking up epic story lines. Snyder and WB paid for that now its time to fix those wrongs and move forward.

 

[ironwez20]

So sad that they messed up what was supposed to be an epic movie. The first trailer was awesome. Why they choose Snyder to headline the whole universe is beyond me. Visually he’s great but story wise. Nope

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

So sad that they messed up what was supposed to be an epic movie. The first trailer was awesome. Why they choose Snyder to headline the whole universe is beyond me. Visually he’s great but story wise. Nope

He’s better at one offs

 

[franpincho]

He looks 100% better than letto already.