I disagree. Classic who was largely devoid of character development. Can you site some examples?
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"The Hand of Fear" = The controller guy at the nuclear power plant had some decent moments including an awesome little scene where he called home to his family to say what he thought was his final goodbyes.
"The Ribos Operation" = The two conmen Unstoffe & Garron were better fleshed out than the leads are today and there was quite a bit of backstory for the main baddie the Graff Vynda K as well.
There are several other examples but those are the first ones that spring to mind off the top of my head.
Thats kind of a useless sort of character development as it doesn't deal with main leads. 
Thats kind of a useless sort of character development as it doesn't deal with main leads.
I don't think it is because it gives the audience a reason to care about some of the other characters in the story which it's impossible to do now.
The new show does do that, though. RTD was really good at it, with little moments like Raffalo in The End of the World. I actually prefer the original series, but I have to admit character development was virtually non-existant (and you've already cited half of it in 26 years!).
(and you've already cited half of it in 26 years!).
Does that make Jago & Litefoot in "The Talons of Weng-Chiang" the other half then?
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on the RTD era because I'm never going to go back and look and with the exception of Eccleston's Doctor I never cared what happened to the main characters let alone the minor ones.
RTD was really good at writing in characters outside the normal cast you could invest in, RTD is a great writer he just wasnt the type of writer who could write something epic set in a sci-fi style world and finish the story with a plausable exit strategy. Moffat will get there, he has a great attention to detail but seems to be struggling to find a happy medium for his writers storys as i mentioned my opinion earlier. But im a patient person and il wait because i know once they find their feet they will produce some brilliant stuff.
I agree with you. RTD was best when dealing with small scale situations and a limited cast. When it came to blockbuster style stories he always seemed to bite off far more than he could chew.
RTD was at his best a few seconds after "The End of Time" finished
As for Moffat he's managed to get me watching the show again which is something but he's still not improved things enough and I'm wondering whether this mediocrity is all we're gonna get.
When he first got the job people were proclaiming the start of a new Golden Age but so far all we've had is one outstanding episode ( "Amy's Choice" ) and everything else has been just as forgettable as the latter half of the RTD era.
As for Moffat he's managed to get me watching the show again which is something but he's still not improved things enough and I'm wondering whether this mediocrity is all we're gonna get.
When he first got the job people were proclaiming the start of a new Golden Age but so far all we've had is one outstanding episode ( "Amy's Choice" ) and everything else has been just as forgettable as the latter half of the RTD era.
I think it's time for you to give up entirely, stockpile as many classic dvd's as you can, and just be done with it Brendan. 
I think it's time for you to give up entirely, stockpile as many classic dvd's as you can, and just be done with it Brendan.
Cheers Marc, thought you'd be the last person to try and tell me what to do. I guess I was wrong
You need to do with Doctor Who what I did with Highlander.
There is only one movie. That's it. Everything else is nonexistant. There never were anymore movies. No TV Show. I never talk about anything but the first movie.
I'm not your parent wagging a condemning finger at you. Just giving you my thoughts is all.
There is only one movie. That's it. Everything else is nonexistant. There never were anymore movies. No TV Show. I never talk about anything but the first movie.
I'm not your parent wagging a condemning finger at you. Just giving you my thoughts is all.
Today I begin Doctor Who Season Two: Planet of Giants. 
Today I begin Doctor Who Season Two: Planet of Giants.
Is that a DVD or did you download it?
As for the new series I think I may just wait until the next series as by then the stories should have a Steven Moffat/Matt Smith feel as opposed to leftovers from the previous regime.
Downloaded. I have the complete Doctor from 1963 - 2010. 
Downloaded. I have the complete Doctor from 1963 - 2010.
Cool!, I wouldn't mind downloading the other Classic stuff I've not seen as it'd save me money if I didn't like some of it but my PC is about as reliable as the hyperdrive on the Millenium Falcon and last time I tried downloading something it needed more than R2-D2 to fix it
In other news I might be going to the same exibition that paulcarson posted the pics from next week, even though it's entirely Nu-Who related I think I'll enjoy it as I liked the Art of Star Wars exhibition years ago despite the amount of prequel items on display.
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You need to do with Doctor Who what I did with Highlander.
There is only one movie. That's it. Everything else is nonexistant. There never were anymore movies. No TV Show. I never talk about anything but the first movie.
Hey, I did that with Highlander too! And now they are allegedly working on a re-boot where they use guns I can ignore as well!I also do that with the ALIEN series. It stops at ALIENS for me! Hicks and Newt are alive, man!
And the SW prequels never happened for me, either! (well, the gist of it might have happened but it was better written).
So see Brendan, as nerds we have special powers which allow us to deny any story we don't like. LOVE and MONSTERS with the Doctor callously leaving a chick a stone head?
Didn't happen.I've been doing that with Nu-Who but it leaves the odd gap as the only stories I'd keep in the continuity are,
"Dalek"
"The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances"
"Victory of the Daleks"
"Amy's Choice"
Selected moments from other stories in series 1 & 5.
So if Eccleston regenerated into Smith at the end of "The Doctor Dances" and his first stop was WW2 London everything would be just dandy
"Dalek"
"The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances"
"Victory of the Daleks"
"Amy's Choice"
Selected moments from other stories in series 1 & 5.
So if Eccleston regenerated into Smith at the end of "The Doctor Dances" and his first stop was WW2 London everything would be just dandy
What was he supposed to do? Maybe he has magic stone-to-flesh wizard powers.
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