Dune (2020) by Dennis Villeneuve

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I'm enjoying Villeneuve's work more than Nolan's. Not that Nolan isn't good, but he plays up the concepts in his films as though they're extremely fascinating and I'm only ever lukewarm on them. Strange to think that my favorite film of his is still TDK even though I'm beyond tired of superheroes.
 
I'm enjoying Villeneuve's work more than Nolan's. Not that Nolan isn't good, but he plays up the concepts in his films as though they're extremely fascinating and I'm only ever lukewarm on them. Strange to think that my favorite film of his is still TDK even though I'm beyond tired of superheroes.
Both have their place and both are masters at filmmaking. Make many and you are bound to have meh stuff.
 
He's not right for SW.
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Speaking of dead Jedi. Obiwan sacrificed himself so Luke could escape, just like Aquaman in Dune. They stole that from Dune!!!
Star Wars stole that scene from Dune which stole that scene from FOTR, lol.

George is all "I didn't copy Dune. My desert planet had twin suns not moons. Totally different." lol
 
You know, in ANH, in 1977 that long skeleton that 3PO walks past in the desert was a tribute to Herbert's Sandworms... until it became a Krayt dragon or whatever.

Lucas removed all the homages over the years, renamed them, rebranded them, to sell toys.
Spice mines, Jedi Mind Tricks/The Voice, "thank the maker," etc. So many seemingly direct references to Dune which would have only been 10 years old when he was writing SW.

I mean it's almost the exact same universe with the Bene Gesserits filling in for the Jedi. You've got the Space Emperor, spice smugglers, children of prophecy, people still finding a reason to use sabers despite the existence of super high tech guns, etc.
 
Spice mines, Jedi Mind Tricks/The Voice, "thank the maker," etc. So many seemingly direct references to Dune which would have only been 10 years old when he was writing SW.

Yes, Spice mines of Kessel, forgot that one. It definitely influenced Lucas... and back then he admitted it.
 
I mean it's almost the exact same universe with the Bene Gesserits filling in for the Jedi. You've got the Space Emperor, spice smugglers, children of prophecy, people still finding a reason to use sabers despite the existence of super high tech guns, etc.

I think Dune had a lot to do with focusing Lucas' ideas. But then, Flash Gordon also had an Emperor.
 
I think Dune had a lot to do with focusing Lucas' ideas.
Yep and I don't fault him one bit. Especially with the way that he took a lot of Herbert's ideas into new directions that were so broadly accessible. But like you said he also did that with Flash Gordon, plus Spaghetti Westerns, Samurai films, the entire climax of Dambusters (lol) and so on. Regardless of who was the first to come up with each concept everyone has been chasing what Lucas did with those first two SW films, even Lucas himself in his later years, to no avail.

LOTR trilogy and Infinity Saga are the two closest contenders, but LOTR had the benefit of being a straight adaptation of a literary classic while the MCU took 23 films and 57 hours to even come close to what George did in two, lol. Avatar fizzled out too quickly to be worth mentioning.
 
When I think about early Lucas then Dune 2021 pales in comparison. When I think of the PT Dune becomes an instant masterpiece, lol.

Clown I know you don't think that Villeneuve wouldn't be a good fit for SW but to me Dune showed how good the prequels could have been. I mean I have a freaking 14 and 11 year old and they were both pretty enthralled with even the politics of Dune. Imagine if that level of skill had been applied to the PT. Villeneuve can make sci-fi politics interesting, he can make exclusive orders of beings with special powers interesting, he can do seedy underworld. I say give him the Jedi, give him the Sith and the Old or New Republic and let him run wild.
 
The farther politics are away from movies the better. Have a board room scene with certain people establishing their dominance (Tarkin/Vader) and then describing their plan. Politics is what Game of Thrones is all about and best left to a long series like that with nudity and killing to offset the boredom lol.
 
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