Dune Part Two (October 20th, 2023)

[chrisstbh]

 

[KitbashOfficer]

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Haha - I didn't think Florence was attractive... until I saw her in this movie. I thought Zendaya was attractive... until this movie. Moral of the story... don't mess with sand chicks.

 

[Ramatuelle]

Haha - I didn't think Florence was attractive... until I saw her in this movie. I thought Zendaya was attractive... until this movie. Moral of the story... don't mess with sand chicks.

I'm gonna have to agree with this about Zendaya. The fact that the stillsuit/hair scraped back makes her face look completely round isnt helping matters. Usually she has a cloud of hair going on, which helps blunt the issue.

Florence is a lovely young woman, again a tidge more makeup would help matters greatly.

 

[Johnny Utah]

You won’t get Star Wars of this quality unless you have the right people overseeing it.

This has Villeneuve.

Andor has Gilroy.

The rest of the current shitshow speaks for itself.

 

[Bleah]

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I'm gonna have to agree with this about Zendaya. The fact that the stillsuit/hair scraped back makes her face look completely round isnt helping matters. Usually she has a cloud of hair going on, which helps blunt the issue.

Florence is a lovely young woman, again a tidge more makeup would help matters greatly.

Naaaaaah. Lady Jessica is where it's at.

 

[ZE_501]

This was not Zendaya's best showing. Florence Pugh was attractive as hell in Oppenheimer (not just because she was undressed, I'm talking about her whole look) ... but in Dune I have to give it to Rebecca Ferguson in most scenes.

 

[ZE_501]

I have to say, Paul is becoming quite an unlikeable character. Its long been my opinion, before this movie ever existed that the Water of Life made him low-key crazy. He's beginning to believe his own bulls***. That's very human of him, but it means a whole lotta people are going to die.

I think that Herbert's contemplation of power, corruption and human failings got lost somewhere along the line? By the second book Paul was thoroughly fallen from whatever heroic grace he might have scraped by on when we first met him.

You could almost argue that there are no heroes in this story.

Jessica: also a villain. She is! She looks great but she's not a good person.

Straight up villain. Lawful Evil.

As mentioned above, Zendaya and Chalamet have little if any real chemistry. This is a problem.

Zero. But I've been crying about the casting from more or less the beginning. My issue with Chalamet is I don't buy physicality or leadership from him.

You can be 'girly' -- and still be lethal but he's never sold me on Paul because I don't see him as leadership material, and even though he puts the work in, I don't buy him as a fighter anymore than I did in 'The King'. It's bad casting just as I think Zendaya is too modern and not otherworldly enough to be a Fremen.

HOW COOL were those Harkonnen suspension packs the soldiers had?! Those things put Star Wars jetpacks in the shade, sorry Boba.

Yeah that was great.

This wormriding is also way cool. I approve.

Lynch's sandworms undulated. It's very unclear how the Villeneuve versions achieve locomotion above ground.

Lady Fenring: GET IT, GIRL. I'll just remark here that I feel all the women in this movie could use a tidge more makeup.

Also a vibe. I liked the lack of make-up. It's mentioned in later books that humans don't even wear deodorant anymore. 20,000 years in the future humans are comfortable being the animals they are, I guess.

 

[ScoutingForToys]

Both Zendaya and Florence are waaaayyyy too young for me.
Give me a fierce, confident, magnificent woman in her 40's or 50's.

Anyway, really liked the first one, even if one or 2 casting choices didn't quite work for me.
Greatly looking forward to seeing this one.

 

[ZE_501]

Both Zendaya and Florence are waaaayyyy too young for me.

Me too, I'm talking just pure aesthetics, but I did pick the 40-year old anyway so there it is.

Give me a fierce, confident, magnificent woman in her 40's or 50's.

Same.

Anyway, really liked the first one, even if one or 2 casting choices didn't quite work for me.
Greatly looking forward to seeing this one.

I haven't seen cinema spectacle like this in a long time. I feel like it ultimately missed the mark on a few aspects, but what an effort. I still enjoyed it.

 

[Ramatuelle]

You won’t get Star Wars of this quality unless you have the right people overseeing it.

This has Villeneuve.

Andor has Gilroy.

The rest of the current ******** speaks for itself.

My comment was more rhetorical. I just dont understand why SW has to [almost always] be so damn hokey in live action. Really infuriating.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I get you. They go back to making it directly for kids, then back to adults. It's all over the place, always has been.

 

[Ramatuelle]

.... My issue with Chalamet is I don't buy physicality or leadership from him.

You can be 'girly' -- and still be lethal but he's never sold me on Paul because I don't see him as leadership material, and even though he puts the work in, I don't buy him as a fighter anymore than I did in 'The King'. It's bad casting just as I think Zendaya is too modern and not otherworldly enough to be a Fremen.

I understand what they're trying to do here - Paul was never that physically intimidating in the books, it was more about his metal training and his psychic powers. Yet onscreen I'm having a problem with this willowy, beautiful young man and accepting him as a serious physical threat. Although Chalamet did great with his fight scenes, not faulting those at all.

I'm really much more accepting of Idaho and Halleck. I laughed when Idaho stormed out, shouting "DOGS!" and waving knives at Harkonnen troops and they just .... moved aside like ok dude, the keys are in the thopter and have a good trip. [1st movie]

Also a vibe. I liked the lack of make-up. It's mentioned in later books that humans don't even wear deodorant anymore. 20,000 years in the future humans are comfortable being the animals they are, I guess.

The contrarian part of me has a problem with these people who never bathe, they never brush their teeth. How would someone in a stillsuit actually smell?! Can you even IMAGINE, not me. You would be able to smell them fifty feet away. What about the diseases this would cause? Ugh! I overthink things way too much.

 

[ZE_501]

I understand what they're trying to do here - Paul was never that physically intimidating in the books, it was more about his metal training and his psychic powers. Yet onscreen I'm having a problem with this willowy, beautiful young man and accepting him as a serious physical threat. Although Chalamet did great with his fight scenes, not faulting those at all.

Well that's just it. I can buy a small-framed fighter and leader, but not Chalamet.

I'm really much more accepting of Idaho and Halleck. I laughed when Idaho stormed out, shouting "DOGS!" and waving knives at Harkonnen troops and they just .... moved aside like ok dude, the keys are in the thopter and have a good trip. [1st movie]

LOL..I'll have to re-watch that.

The contrarian part of me has a problem with these people who never bathe, they never brush their teeth. How would someone in a stillsuit actually smell?! Can you even IMAGINE, not me. You would be able to smell them fifty feet away. What about the diseases this would cause? Ugh! I overthink things way too much.

I'm assuming they may have some 20,000-years-in-the-future tech for dental hygiene, but I remember well how several times (in the book) the sietch was described as having a "woolly smell" or scent. Still-suits and caves got a bit rich but I guess it was the sea they swam in, as it were.

 

[ScoutingForToys]

Haven't seen part 2 yet so can only go by the first film but I'm not sold on Chalamet at all. Mental powers sure, but not in combat or as a leader.

 

[chrisstbh]

Haven't seen part 2 yet so can only go by the first film but I'm not sold on Chalamet at all. Mental powers sure, but not in combat or as a leader.

Well then you should see Part 2 .

 

[Ramatuelle]

Haven't seen part 2 yet so can only go by the first film but I'm not sold on Chalamet at all. Mental powers sure, but not in combat or as a leader.

2 is better than one. Go see it.

 

[jye4ever]

2 is better than one. Go see it.

And both combined as a single movie makes for one epic experience.

 

[Ramatuelle]

LOL..I'll have to re-watch that.

 

[ZE_501]

Thanks for that. Guess he ran into the B-team.

 

[chrisstbh]

Thanks for that. Guess he ran into the B-team.

I love smart movie goons that recognise when they’re outmatched though.

Rather than the typical:
“Huh, Batman just put 15 of my buddies into temporary comas, let me have a go”