Eagle vs Fellbeast Diorama

[Ktjn]

If Sideshow really wanted to throw collectors into a tizzy, they should have capped this thing at 750 pieces. You want to pump interest back into this line, then throw in a low ES on a piece that is being well-received across the board. 1,250 is too high, IMO, but then again it's an assurance that most people who really want it will get it. In the end, I'm sure there will be cancellations, second-chance offers, and wait list conversions.

You better be careful with that ES talk, you might upset The One :hint:


and why are some compairing the weta piece to the SS piece on the ES matter?

 

[The Josh]

I guess 4 me I don't look at 1,250 a high es.

 

[RoboDad]

I guess 4 me I don't look at 1,250 a high es.

That's cool. Everyone isn't always going to agree on everything. It would be kind of boring in here if they did .

What interests me in this discussion is, considering the almost universal praise this piece has gotten, the question of whether this ES will affect the long-term grail status of the piece.

Personally, I think this is an artistically better piece than, for example, the Doctor Doom PF, but I wonder if there will be as many people seeking after at it a year from now as there have been for Doom since its release. Doom wasn't an instant sell-out either, but I think its low ES has been a factor in its sustained popularity.

 

[The Josh]

I agree that we don't all need to agree. I guess I just found it a little funny some where acting like 1,250 would just totally crush this piece. Its an awesome piece and if it becomes a grail then thats awesome but if it doesn't it still kicks ass all the same.

 

[RoboDad]

Indeed it does.

There is nothing that will keep me from following through with my order on this one.

 

[The Ringer]

There is absolutely nothing that can keep this peice from being kick a$$, not even a Faramir paint job. But seriously 1,250 is perfect and I do not see how that can be too high but all people think differently.

 

[The Josh]

Indeed it does.

There is nothing that will keep me from following through with my order on this one.

I wish I could say the same but ya never know what life is gonna toss @ ya.

 

[RoboDad]

I wish I could say the same but ya never know what life is gonna toss @ ya.

C'mon, Josh, don't be such a contrarian . You know what I meant. Of course, an illness, injury, or other unexpected "life-changing" circumstance will always take priority over this hobby. I meant that, barring unforeseen tragedy, I will do whatever it takes to make sure I have the funds for this one. If that means selling several other collectibles, so be it.

 

[The Josh]

C'mon, Josh, don't be such a contrarian . You know what I meant. Of course, an illness, injury, or other unexpected "life-changing" circumstance will always take priority over this hobby. I meant that, barring unforeseen tragedy, I will do whatever it takes to make sure I have the funds for this one. If that means selling several other collectibles, so be it.

Can't help it today. I'm not feeling so great about things in general.

 

[Agent23]

I'm sorry, Josh, I didn't mean to post my opinion, especially if it goes against yours. Please forgive me.

Or he can just put you on ignore. Thats what happens when anyone has an opinion other then his.

 

[Agent23]

END OF DISCUSSION.

End of discussion is right. Chalk up another person to put you on ignore. Bye Bye now....

 

[carbo-fation]

 

[FlyAndFight]

You're forgiven.

I was just simply making a comment if 1,250 is too high then any item in the SSW line with an ES bigger than that must be TOO big then. I wasn't saying anything about you posting or not posting your opinion. Get over yourself would ya.

Josh, I've got roughly 2,700 posts in the same time frame that you've made almost 30,000. I think it's you that needs to get over himself.

Comparing the Eagle/Fell Beast piece to one of the top "3" pieces in the SS/Weta line, released during the height of interest in the LOTR films and in the line that started it all, is simply silly.

I said I was getting this piece regardless of the ES but I simply feel that the ES is too high:

Crack of doom: 1500 (WAY too high but it's the initial piece of the line, so it's understandable.)
Walls of Helm's Deep: 750
Saruman vs Gandalf: 750
Battle over Black Gate: 1250

Not to mention that with the exception of the "Crack" piece, the rest have been as expensive as the MOST expensive pieces in the SS/Weta line. There's no breather room here, such as there was with the SS/Weta line. ($60 Busts, $30 Helms, $75 enviros, $125 statues, etc...

I think it would have been even better if SS had simply made the ES 1000, across the board. They would all eventually sell out, and would provide a stable ES for the line.

 

[Agent23]

 

[woodsy]

Josh, I've got roughly 2,700 posts in the same time frame that you've made almost 30,000. I think it's you that needs to get over himself.

Comparing the Eagle/Fell Beast piece to one of the top "3" pieces in the SS/Weta line, released during the height of interest in the LOTR films and in the line that started it all, is simply silly.

I said I was getting this piece regardless of the ES but I simply feel that the ES is too high:
Crack of doom: 1500 (WAY too high but it's the initial piece of the line, so it's understandable.)
Walls of Helm's Deep: 750
Saruman vs Gandalf: 750
Battle over Black Gate: 1250

Not to mention that with the exception of the "Crack" piece, the rest have been as expensive as the MOST expensive pieces in the SS/Weta line. There's no breather room here, such as there was with the SS/Weta line. ($60 Busts, $30 Helms, $75 enviros, $125 statues, etc...

I think it would have been even better if SS had simply made the ES 1000, across the board. They would all eventually sell out, and would provide a stable ES for the line.

Though I certainly would have preferred a lower ES I can't say it's too high. The ES is based on pre-sales and obviously with this item being the top seller at SS for two straight weeks and with all the positive reviews it's received, SS knew it had the type of demand that would warrant a 1250 ES.

I think you could make a case that almost every SS item has an artificially high ES because of SS's 'TBD' policy. With no penalties imposed for cancelling order's alot of us [myself included] have a tendancy to jack up the pre-sale numbers only to cancel at the last minute.

I do agree that having a set number such as 1000 across the board would be a great idea. I've always hated the fact SS's ES's are all over the map, and I for one would love to see some consistancy in the numbers.

 

[theguru1]

Well, my 2c worth is that the 1250 ES is pretty resonable. No doubt that a number of those are allocated to various retail shops around the world (I personally have a order in at my local store) and then the rest are sold via SS website.

So, sure, its no more 'sold out' then any other pre-order, but the fact that something so huge and at $300 RRP has reached 'sold out' status in about 3 weeks, tells me that while those that really want it will doubt still be able to purchase around the end of the year, an ES of 1250 more or less says that in a couple of years time, it will be much harder to get.

It was said that the level of interest in LOTR now is much lower then the hay-days, which I'm sure is true, but at the same time we are talking LOTR's here. While there maybe highs and lows, at no point will it ever just completely drop out and you'll find masses of statues up for sale on ebay at rock bottom prices.

Add to that you need to consider the statue in this case, all the other dio's are 'repeat' characters. I have a Frodo, a Gollum, a Gandalf, an Aragorn (which you can now get in PF as well), however I don't have a Fell Beast (tho I could if I really wanted to, but by itself, I'm not that interested) and I don't have an Eagle, but then no one does, since it was never made.

Also, many times they say that its the 'creatures' that are more popular then people. Just look at the level of interest in this one compared to say the Saruman vs Gandalf at half the ES, which I think took the same or longer to 'sell out'.

As such I think that 1250 will keep most happy for around a year or so, then they will end up in the hands of ppl that just won't let them go. Trust me, if the production item is as good as the prototype and usually these all look better in person, your going to have to pry it out of my dead hand to get mine.

 

[jbinny]

why is everyone getting their shorts in a bunch? when half of them show up w/broken wings in SIM fashion, that'll take care of thre 'high es'.

 

[FrodoEyes]

I think that's a decent ES, although a bit random. Why 1250? Seems a strange number, although this is the most popular dio so far. At least the ES isn't what the later Weta statues were!

 

[BlueBalls4Ever]

Comparing the Eagle/Fell Beast piece to one of the top "3" pieces in the SS/Weta line, released during the height of interest in the LOTR films and in the line that started it all, is simply silly.

Who did what?

 

[Agent23]

Inside Joke.