EXO-6 Star Trek "General Discussion" 1/6 Line

[davejames]

Latest is that the Cardassians (Garak, Dukat) may be too expensive to make based on DS9 demand, so keep fingers crossed he can find a way over that hurdle... or we'll miss two very important characters in that franchise

Well damn that would suck.

 

[S. Griffin]

I didn't read it exactly like that. This is what he said:

 

[DParga21]

Losing Dukat (And especially Garak) would be hard. I'd hope they could maybe price it at Saavik or Kruge levels and limit the run.
I would be surprised if Kruge is that much more of a big seller than Garak, but that might be my own prejudices showing.
I can let go of Dukat, but I'd have a hard time feeling like the crew is complete without Garak.

 

[Johnny Utah]

If they can make single appearance Chang, they goddamn better make Gul Dukat and Garak.

 

[S. Griffin]

Losing Dukat (And especially Garak) would be hard. I'd hope they could maybe price it at Saavik or Kruge levels and limit the run.
I would be surprised if Kruge is that much more of a big seller than Garak, but that might be my own prejudices showing.
I can let go of Dukat, but I'd have a hard time feeling like the crew is complete without Garak.

Aside from a couple Mirror Universe episodes, Garak doesn't wear a bulky armored and scaled uniform like Dukat. He'll surely be less costly.

 

[DParga21]

Aside from a couple Mirror Universe episodes, Garak doesn't wear a bulky armored and scaled uniform like Dukat. He'll surely be less costly.

Yeah, I'd imagine he'd be somewhere between Worf and Neelix on general cost, honestly.

 

[Omegaplex]

Reading it again it seems more like Garak is not particularly in jeopardy, but Gul Dukat could be expensive enough to be a risk, I assume because of his uniform? It was pointed out that Garak is mostly 'cloth' (which exo-6 is very good at), but Dukat is a lot of rubbers and 'hard parts' like the Locutus and Kruge were. Both of those had to be farmed out to third parties. Can DS9 buyers be enough to support Dukat? I think so for sure! Must have Dukat and Garak!

 

[Omegaplex]

Garak and Dukat are such important characters to DS9, would be a huge blow to miss either. I'm confident when Dukat's turn rolls around, Nanjin will have found a way to make it work. May cast doubt on other 'armored' Cardassians like Damar getting made though.

 

[StarDude]

Idunno it doesn't look too hopeful looking at Nanjin's responses. Looks more hopefuly but still not 100% even for Garak.

Nanjin mentioned 6 of the figures have failed if I understand this right. Meaning 6 lost money. Sounds like Seven lost quite a bit and was just one of them.
There's what... like 27 shipped figures, and 2 shipped other versions of figures (a lot more figures shipped than I realised) and a shipped "Prop" of the E chair. So that's about 20%ish of the figures lose money so far.

I want more deets. I'm super I'm getting this Super wrong. And it doesn't even speak to how big of hits those are. Like did Seven kill the profit on .5 other figures or 10 of 'em?

It's a facinating world I have no eyes in and all I can do is make stupid uneducated guesses.

I'd buy a Dukat even if he was $300 but how many DS9ers would?

 

[Omegaplex]

Idunno it doesn't look too hopeful looking at Nanjin's responses. Looks more hopefuly but still not 100% even for Garak.

Nanjin mentioned 6 of the figures have failed if I understand this right. Meaning 6 lost money. Sounds like Seven lost quite a bit and was just one of them.
There's what... like 27 shipped figures, and 2 shipped other versions of figures (a lot more figures shipped than I realised) and a shipped "Prop" of the E chair. So that's about 20%ish of the figures lose money so far.

I want more deets. I'm super I'm getting this Super wrong. And it doesn't even speak to how big of hits those are. Like did Seven kill the profit on .5 other figures or 10 of 'em?

It's a facinating world I have no eyes in and all I can do is make stupid uneducated guesses.

I'd buy a Dukat even if he was $300 but how many DS9ers would?

I would for sure. He's a huge part of the show and a great character besides!

 

[davejames]

Dukat would be a must for me as well, but I do think Nanjin is right to worry as I'm not sure how many outside the small group of collectors here and on FB would really want to pay $250-300 for one.

 

[JohnnyStarTrek]

I suspect Bashir has not had big presales, which may be a red flag for "lesser" characters like Dukat.

 

[Omegaplex]

I suspect Bashir has not had big presales, which may be a red flag for "lesser" characters like Dukat.

That's probably true but if we're all being honest, Dukat is a much more interesting character than Bashir. Bashir may well end up as the lowest selling DS9 figure overall when the dust settles at the end of the line, he's a perfectly good character and an important part of the show but he's definitely the most milquetoast of the main cast, with many supporting characters eclipsing him as well. I think a good Dukat figure - even a simple one with minimal accessories - could outsell Bashir, for people just buying favorite characters alone (to say nothing of completionists, who will obviously buy him). I mean, he's one of Trek's best and most complex villains... of all time. I think he'd do just fine vis-a-vis other non-TOS and non-TNG characters.

 

[HPGR_Thrawn]

I would buy Dykat over any DS9 character except Sisko, Kira, and Odo.

 

[davejames]

That's probably true but if we're all being honest, Dukat is a much more interesting character than Bashir. Bashir may well end up as the lowest selling DS9 figure overall when the dust settles at the end of the line, he's a perfectly good character and an important part of the show but he's definitely the most milquetoast of the main cast, with many supporting characters eclipsing him as well. I think a good Dukat figure - even a simple one with minimal accessories - could outsell Bashir, for people just buying favorite characters alone (to say nothing of completionists, who will obviously buy him). I mean, he's one of Trek's best and most complex villains... of all time. I think he'd do just fine vis-a-vis other non-TOS and non-TNG characters.

Agreed. But the problem is he still needs characters like Bashir to sell well in order to help fund the characters that come after. And I imagine he can only take so many hits from poor releases before the entire project is jeopardized.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I'll say it again, Odo is a fantastic figure. He turned out great.

That's the thing I love the most about these Trek figures. When you see them boxed up in your hands, it feels surreal to see them in this quality and scale.

And no photos compare to in hand. They really are impressive.

 

[DParga21]

Agreed. But the problem is he still needs characters like Bashir to sell well in order to help fund the characters that come after. And I imagine he can only take so many hits from poor releases before the entire project is jeopardized.

From what Nanjin told me, they hit their pre-order goal with Bashir.
Which honestly surprised me. But in a good way.
Their are some Trek villains I would consider essential to any complete collection:
Khan
Q
Dukat
Borg Queen
And while not necessarily a villain, I'd throw Shran in there too.
Plus we're getting Vadic, Kruge, and Chang which is a really nice bonus.
So fingers crossed that Nanjin can make Dukat work. That way we'll have everyone.

 

[Johnny Utah]

I’d like to see Nero, Khan and Krall. For some reason Voldemort has no interest in the first two Kelvin movies.

 

[Heavy Metal Spike]

I'll say it again, Odo is a fantastic figure. He turned out great.

That's the thing I love the most about these Trek figures. When you see them boxed up in your hands, it feels surreal to see them in this quality and scale.

And no photos compare to in hand. They really are impressive.

My "Kira" turned up from BBTS earlier this week - much MUCH better than the promo photos suggested.

Costume colour is a little too "pink", but it's not as glaring "in-hand".

VERY happy with the way the DS9 line is turning out (so far) . . . I currently have Sisko, Quark & Kira, with Odo & Bashir pre-ordered - and (assuming they keep up these standards) will order every other DS9 figure REGARDLESS of price


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[DParga21]

I’d like to see Nero, Khan and Krall. For some reason Voldemort has no interest in the first two Kelvin movies.

There could be licensing issues. It could also be an evaluation of market. Of the three Kelvin films, Beyond is generally well liked amongst Trek fans. Cumberbatch's Khan, I don't think that would sell AT ALL, as just about everyone hated that whole fiasco. And Nero wasn't a very iconic villain. So really, if you're going to do Kelvin, might as well do Beyond, and do them in those cool Away Team jackets. Since we already have (and will get) Kirk in his yellow top, why do another Kirk in a yellow top with a different face?