Explosion in Boston?

[Eli26]

1,000 posts!

Posted by me.

 

[pixletwin]

1,000 posts!

Posted by me.

You were the 1001st poster, silly.

 

[a-dev]

Oh cryptic one PLEASE elaborate!

not about you.

 

[DPrime]

But the problem is that all humans have a natural tendency to filter information through biased lenses. Be they religious, political, self-interest-based, emotional, etc. So 10 guys will be looking at the same thing with the same information and may represent it 4 or 5 completely different ways. It takes critical self-awareness to even begin to overcome this problem. "Objective reality" is not as easy a concept to ascertain as it seems like it should be. It's easy to fall into logical fallacies and wishful thinking scenarios once you've become accustomed to expecting the world to behave in a certain way.

Very true.

I know what I see by the unconstitutional Bills that are constantly being brought up in Congress and the Senate.There is plenty of evidence that supports that our nation is becoming a Police State.

It IS scary to think there are politicians - and yes, plenty of citizens - who seem happy to trade freedom for security, or make Sharia Law official, or create some kind of theocratic Christian state, or attempt to push whatever crazy agenda they have into law. But how many of those get passed?

And if somehow they are, if they are unconstitutional, there's still the Supreme Court, etc.

Democracy ain't perfect, but it's still the best we've got.

Let me ask you this,since you are military...if ordered to...Will you fire your weapons on US or Canadian citizens???

Assuming it's not a question of self-defense (and even there, there are very clear guidelines as to appropriate force), absolutely not.

We are LEGALLY obliged to NOT follow an illegal order. Not just ethically. This is every soldier, sailor and airman's responsibility.

 

[Mr. EcKo]

Wow my post got deleted????????????????? WTF is wrong with you MODS????


Isn't this a public forum for "discussion" ?

I believe the this section is " Sideshow Freaks > Non-Collectible discussion > Other topics > Explosion in Boston"

This is ridiculous , mods that take their power to their heads , so if they don't agree with what you say , they delete your post.

F*#K this Thread

 

[The Chaver]

Wow my post got deleted????????????????? WTF is wrong with you MODS????


Isn't this a public forum for "discussion" ?

I believe the this section is " Sideshow Freaks > Non-Collectible discussion > Other topics > Explosion in Boston"

This is ridiculous , mods that take their power to their heads , so if they don't agree with what you say , they delete your post.

F*#K this Thread

This is the way the whole world works unfortunately. The ones with power dictate.

 

[teemu]

Very true.



It IS scary to think there are politicians - and yes, plenty of citizens - who seem happy to trade freedom for security, or make Sharia Law official, or create some kind of theocratic Christian state, or attempt to push whatever crazy agenda they have into law. But how many of those get passed?

And if somehow they are, if they are unconstitutional, there's still the Supreme Court, etc.

Democracy ain't perfect, but it's still the best we've got.


Assuming it's not a question of self-defense (and even there, there are very clear guidelines as to appropriate force), absolutely not.

We are LEGALLY obliged to NOT follow an illegal order. Not just ethically. This is every soldier, sailor and airman's responsibility.

that is one of the biggest problem...we ARE a Constitutional Republic,not a Democracy.A Democracy is Mob Rule,Where 51% can take the rights of the 49%.No where in our constitution even mentions a Democracy.In a Republic 99% cannot take away the rights of the 1%...we have God given unalienable Rights and not to be taken away.

It nice to see that you would disobey orders to not shoot civilians.

 

[karamazov80]

Wow my post got deleted????????????????? WTF is wrong with you MODS????


Isn't this a public forum for "discussion" ?

I believe the this section is " Sideshow Freaks > Non-Collectible discussion > Other topics > Explosion in Boston"

This is ridiculous , mods that take their power to their heads , so if they don't agree with what you say , they delete your post.

F*#K this Thread

[ame]https://youtu.be/PVrEwCa8nSA[/ame]

 

[DPrime]

that is one of the biggest problem...we ARE a Constitutional Republic,not a Democracy.A Democracy is Mob Rule,Where 51% can take the rights of the 49%.No where in our constitution even mentions a Democracy.In a Republic 99% cannot take away the rights of the 1%...we have God given unalienable Rights and not to be taken away.

Well, I'm using the term in the vernacular, not purely academic sense.

Is any country a pure democracy? It wouldn't work, imo.

 

[karamazov80]

Is any country a pure democracy?

That's a negative. "Democracy" doesn't mean what teemu says about 95% of the time it's used. And it isn't used incorrectly, it just isn't used in the way he is saying that it should be (the ancient Greek version I guess). The closest we have to genuine democracies in the modern world are referenda, which we see with some variation across the world. Also, some countries rule by Parliamentary coalitions and not the "winner take all" system of the U.S. Considering that a minority can theoretically have more voice in those other systems you could argue that they are closer to teemu's democracies than other systems.

 

[DPrime]

That's a negative. "Democracy" doesn't mean what teemu says about 95% of the time it's used. And it isn't used incorrectly, it just isn't used in the way he is saying that it should be (the ancient Greek version I guess). The closest we have to genuine democracies in the modern world are referenda, which we see with some variation across the world. Also, some countries rule by Parliamentary coalitions and not the "winner take all" system of the U.S. Considering that a minority can theoretically have more voice in those other systems you could argue that they are closer to teemu's democracies than other systems.

That's what I thought.

I thought maybe there's a chance some small island nation in the Pacific was, though, or something like that.

 

[BadMoon]

See I have a big problem with this. Then the moron talks about how they are doing their job. It baffles me. I just don't understand how anyone could think this was okay. I really don't. Glad the guy is cool with having guns drawn on him and his family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ1-ZUN3Li0&feature=youtu.be

 

[karamazov80]

I believe that Switzerland has a system closest to "pure" direct democracy. But it isn't the extreme case teemu's talking about. They still elect officials to speak on their behalf.

 

[The Chaver]

[ame]https://youtu.be/MeTbDdl7XiE[/ame]


The U.S. is actually a polyarchy.

 

[Eli26]

You were the 1001st poster, silly.

It said 1,000 posts at the time. I posted the 1,000th reply then. Meh... and there are no 1,000 posters in this thread!

So what's up, how are you doing?

 

[karamazov80]

I U.S. is actually a polyarchy.

This is all academic terminology, but if you really want to read about it, go here:

[ame]https://www.amazon.com/Polyarchy-Participation-Opposition-Robert-Dahl/dp/0300015658/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366823664&sr=8-1&keywords=polyarchy[/ame]

Boring as all hell, but required reading for students of comparative politics. I'm sure there are countless treatises by political theorists also quibbling about terms and their use or misuse.

 

[teemu]

See I have a big problem with this. Then the moron talks about how they are doing their job. It baffles me. I just don't understand how anyone could think this was okay. I really don't. Glad the guy is cool with having guns drawn on him and his family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ1-ZUN3Li0&feature=youtu.be

Yep! no warrant issued...it was done with FORCE!

welcome to Nazi germany....The New World Order is on its verge

 

[karamazov80]

Well it's official. . .teemu is really Jello Biafra.

[ame]https://youtu.be/5iNh6BVZgJ0[/ame]

 

[teemu]

https://youtu.be/MeTbDdl7XiE


I U.S. is actually a polyarchy.

Our founding fathers founded us as a Constitutional Republic

true,the Republic is dead and has been dead

we are now under Socialist Communist dictatorship

 

[The Chaver]

This is all academic terminology, but if you really want to read about it, go here:

https://www.amazon.com/Polyarchy-Pa...UTF8&qid=1366823664&sr=8-1&keywords=polyarchy

Boring as all hell, but required reading for students of comparative politics. I'm sure there are countless treatises by political theorists also quibbling about terms and their use or misuse.

Nice.

Thanks.