Explosion in Boston?

[Shropt]

Who says they didn't have a warrant?

 

[BadMoon]

The fact that you continuously post multiple times like 20 mins apart basically talking to yourself doesn't help bring anyone onto your side, it makes you seem really desperate and silly.

The only thing that bothers me about all this and did right from the moment I saw it was the door to door search with no warrants. It's one thing if the civilians willingly agree, another to be removed from your home at gunpoint. That to me looked more like the Government capitalizing on a real tragedy to practice door to door searches to take guns. I've never been a conspiracy theorist in any capacity but I'll be the first to say if that day comes, I will defend myself and my home against any cop if it means death or not.

That is what really disturbed me. Unless there was something we don't know about some of those search videos that are circulating. It seemed very excessive.

 

[The Chaver]

Milk police officer... You have got to be kidding me?


Propaganda at it's finest.

 

[BadMoon]

Who says they didn't have a warrant?

I certainly didn't see them offering up any documentation as they were grabbing people and slinging them out of their homes.

I'm not saying they didn't until it's stated. But they didn't need one according to the law if A the people agreed to the search or B if they had reasonable belief that the fugitive was in the home being searched.

In these cases they were strong armed in my opinion and agreed to the searches. How many people are going to see guns and armored personal vehicles and disagree to anything?

 

[occulum]

the gov't WANTS you to chase conspiracy theories. Even when they're telling the complete truth. They count on you to never stop chasing your tail so when they do release disinformation they know most will chase the squirrel like clockwork.
Just like Roswell. "Let them think its aliens. Actually let's fuel that theory indirectly. Keep them running away from the real information."

As for the door-to-door thing, while I do find it a little unnerving, if I had lived in that neighborhood I would've been all for it. Please come in and clear my house and the other houses surrounding me.
Im not going to let my conspiracy-theorist paranoia / american rights upholding / correct paperwork obtaining ego allow this guy to dig in somewhere for days or weeks on end so they can go process appropriate paperwork while the guy kills another dozen people. Go in NOW and get the mutha****er out of here IMO.

This was a lose/lose situation for law enforcement / gov't. They call in "EVERYONE!!" to diffuse the situation ASAP and its viewed as too much. If they had dialed it back people would've been outraged they "Aren't doing enough after a terrorist attack on Mericans on Merican Soil!"

Im all for conspiracy theories. I find them quite entertaining (cause thats all you can really do with them), but sometimes it gets a bit ridiculous.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTsuvykUZk[/ame]

 

[CelticPredator]

It's amazing how conditioned folks are. Especially the US public. I don't pretend to know all whats going on with this one, but the Gov't is never, ever up to any good. For you or for me.

I mean people still think guys with box cutters flew planes into the TT. Oh and Oswald killed Kennedy.

 

[DPrime]

All these conspiracy theories assume that hundreds of people keep quiet about it all being fake.

You have to be kidding me...

Go ahead and ask a friend of yours, or ask someone that has a friend or family member that's in the CIA or NSA if they would dispose some information on anything that's classified. They will not budge, they're bound by a code. They don't even share that info with their spouses.

As for what they would get - they got CISPA

Money and greed is the biggest information controller. You award people with money and threaten to take it away and they'll do whatever you ask them.

There's also that little thing called compartmentalization. We all suffer from it.

Duck is absolutely right.

Chaver, you're talking out of your a$$ here. Some of us actually have experience with this sort of thing. These hundreds - actually thousands - of people who would have access to this inormation aren't a bunch of mindless automatons or machiavellian schemers. They are PEOPLE who swore an oath to defend and protect their country, its Constitution and its people. None of them would tolerate what you seem to be suggesting.

I'm sure you'll just dismiss this as me being "naive", but like I said, some of us have more experience than you might believe...

 

[The Chaver]

the gov't WANTS you to chase conspiracy theories. Even when they're telling the complete truth. They count on you to never stop chasing your tail so when they do release disinformation they know most will chase the squirrel like clockwork.
Just like Roswell. "Let them think its aliens. Actually let's fuel that theory indirectly. Keep them running away from the real information."

As for the door-to-door thing, while I do find it a little unnerving, if I had lived in that neighborhood I would've been all for it. Please come in and clear my house and the other houses surrounding me.
Im not going to let my conspiracy-theorist paranoia / american rights upholding / correct paperwork obtaining ego allow this guy to dig in somewhere for days or weeks on end so they can go process appropriate paperwork while the guy kills another dozen people. Go in NOW and get the mutha****er out of here IMO.

This was a lose/lose situation for law enforcement / gov't. They call in "EVERYONE!!" to diffuse the situation ASAP and its viewed as too much. If they had dialed it back people would've been outraged they "Aren't doing enough after a terrorist attack on Mericans on Merican Soil!"

Im all for conspiracy theories. I find them quite entertaining (cause thats all you can really do with them), but sometimes it gets a bit ridiculous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTsuvykUZk

Interesting point of view. It seems I was too busy chasing my own tail to include that into the equation.

Well done my friend.



But stil...

 

[occulum]

I do find conspiracy theories entertaining to research and look into (including this one). It doesn't bother me until people get so worked up and start arguing about something they pretty much have NO control over.

 

[The Chaver]

Duck is absolutely right.

Chaver, you're talking out of your a$$ here. Some of us actually have experience with this sort of thing. These hundreds - actually thousands - of people who would have access to this inormation aren't a bunch of mindless automatons or machiavellian schemers. They are PEOPLE who swore an oath to defend and protect their country, its Constitution and its people. None of them would tolerate what you seem to be suggesting.

I'm sure you'll just dismiss this as me being "naive", but like I said, some of us have more experience than you might believe...

Can one actually talk out of their ***? Because since I was first told that, I've been sitting here trying to do it and it just isn't physically possible.

And what, you think I don't have any experience? I've been around and have seen things my friend. I'm not some 15 year old talking to you from my parents house.

 

[BadMoon]

As for the door-to-door thing, while I do find it a little unnerving, if I had lived in that neighborhood I would've been all for it. Please come in and clear my house and the other houses surrounding me.
Im not going to let my conspiracy-theorist paranoia / american rights upholding

How you can lump conspiracy-theorist paranoia and american rights together is pretty damn scary. Last time I checked we were a free nation. People died for our freedoms.

If you would feel great about having guns pointed at your face and family good on you I guess. I know how I would feel about it, and it certainly isn't patriotic. I also would know if someone was in my home that wasn't supposed to be there. And before anyone argues for the possibility that I may not have noticed that simply is not possible. I have two dogs that don't miss a beat.

 

[occulum]

a single woman at the door with a gun pointed to the back of her head would probably LOVE to see 100 gov't rifles pointed at her face telling her she must move out of the way when she opens the front door...

 

[The Chaver]

I do find conspiracy theories entertaining to research and look into (including this one). It doesn't bother me until people get so worked up and start arguing about something they pretty much have NO control over.

And your right, whatever is going on you have absolutely no control over it, it is out of anyone of ours control. Lost cause. Because the people in control of this country have way too much of it, and you and I can not touch that. It's nice to sit around and ****** about it though.

I tell you that.

 

[occulum]

completely agree.
And the "people" in control of this country are not the govt. The govt has puppet strings attached to it too.

 

[Eli26]

How you can lump conspiracy-theorist paranoia and american rights together is pretty damn scary. Last time I checked we were a free nation. People died for our freedoms.

If you would feel great about having guns pointed at your face and family good on you I guess. I know how I would feel about it, and it certainly isn't patriotic. I also would know if someone was in my home that wasn't supposed to be there. And before anyone argues for the possibility that I may not have noticed that simply is not possible. I have two dogs that don't miss a beat.

So would you say they are more bluesy dogs or rock'n'roll?

 

[DPrime]

Can one actually talk out of their ***? Because since I was first told that, I've been sitting here trying to do it and it just isn't physically possible.

And what, you think I don't have any experience? I've been around and have seen things my friend. I'm not some 15 year old talking to you from my parents house.

I'm talking about people who actually work/have worked within the intelligence community. I can tell you're not one of them.

 

[BadMoon]

So would you say they are more bluesy dogs or rock'n'roll?

They're morons to point a fine point on it. The only thing they do well is annoy people. If someone comes into the house they would look to annoy them. Which would in turn annoy me, alerting me of their presence.

 

[The Chaver]

I'm talking about people who actually work/have worked within the intelligence community. I can tell you're not one of them.

Well, you're not either.

And the people in the intelligence community are not going to divulge any information, to you or me, friend or family, or fo. So how would you know about anything if they don't talk, or, when they do talk it's falsely about the organization they work for? Whatever they say, it is what they want you to believe.

But I don't have to explain that to you. You know this already.

 

[DPrime]

Well, you're not either.

And the people in the intelligence community are not going to divulge any information, to you or me, friend or family, or fo. So how would you know about anything if they don't talk, or, when they do talk it's falsely about the organization they work for? Whatever they say, it is what they want you to believe.

But I don't have to explain that to you. You know this already.

But leaks DO occur. Real ones, not conspiracy theories.

Anything involving the deliberate murder/targeting of American citizens on the scale you're talking about would come out in the open, period. I'm not saying every single person would talk, but for the vast majority, there would be a moral and ethical obligation to do so.

 

[pixletwin]

It smells of presumption in here. That is my que it's time to leave.