Fantastic Four reboot

[cilantropants]

The second part of that kind of indicates you'll stand by it no matter what it turns out like. But, cool. You'll know before I do either way, since I'm waiting for this to watch at home.

 

[GasparZizou]

I think Pturtle will have no problem admitting the movie sucks if it does.

 

[pturtle]

Everything I've seen looks great, loved the trailer, I like the actors they got on board, and just the look of the film excites me. I don't see how my statement indicates that if it sucks I'll still say it's great. I've been wrong before, I thought The Avengers was going to be great, turned out to be garbage and I had no problem admitting that.

I wonder though, if I would have said that AOU will be the best blockbuster of the year instead if you would have written that last comment.

I'll be doing the same with AOU, I have no plans on paying to see that movie.

 

[cilantropants]

I wonder though, if I would have said that AOU will be the best blockbuster of the year instead if you would have written that last comment.

I sure would have. I haven't championed that movie or any of the others really. Only thing I'm looking forward to with great anticipation is the Infinity War arc as I love the character of Thanos, and cosmic Marvel in general. It's nice they're building up to it and I think their approach to putting together a vast movie universe across all these years is interesting, but I'm not much of a booster for them overall. So your anti-Marvel fanboy spite is wasted on me.
To be honest, I'm going to wait for Ultron on Blu-ray as well, unless I happen to just go on a whim or get a free ticket.

 

[pturtle]

I think Pturtle will have no problem admitting the movie sucks if it does.

Yup, I was defending ASM2 and I admitted it sucked on my second viewing.

I guess you're allowed to be excited for every movie coming out except this one.

I sure would have. I haven't championed that movie or any of the others really. Only thing I'm looking forward to with great anticipation is the Infinity War arc as I love the character of Thanos, and cosmic Marvel in general. It's nice they're building up to it and I think their approach to putting together a vast movie universe across all these years is interesting, but I'm not much of a booster for them overall. So your anti-Marvel fanboy spite is wasted on me.
To be honest, I'm going to wait for Ultron on Blu-ray as well, unless I happen to just go on a whim or get a free ticket.

Well at least we have something in common. I'm totally not anti-Marvel by the way, I just got my Netflix account ready for Daredevil tomorrow.

 

[cilantropants]

Sorry, that was supposed to mean you're an anti-Marvel-fanboy kinda guy. I forgot a hyphen. You don't much like the positive opinions expressed by people when it comes to Marvel studios in a general sense. At least that's the impression you've put forth.

 

[pturtle]

Nope, that doesn't bother me at all, It just bothers me when you criticize some of their films, or even the studio as a whole, that your automatically categorized as anti-Marvel. Especially when those same people bash WB, Fox, and Sony relentlessly, even when they put out quality.

 

[pturtle]

New pic

I kind of see the fake brows there. Just not as profound as it was in the comics.

 

[Khev]

pturtle I've said a number of times that this FF movie could very well be this year's "DOFP." I didn't like much at all of what I was seeing of DOFP prior to its release (a number of things I even found downright stupid) and it ended up being my second favorite superhero movie of the year. So much of what has been released for FF has been quite oft putting but going *only* by the trailer it does look like there could be a pretty decent film in there. We'll see.

I'll be there opening weekend to watch AoU but I'm still not convinced that it's going to blow me away.

 

[pturtle]

To be honest, I'll be watching AOU opening night myself, I was just trying to be a little mean to Cilantro. I hope I love the movie too, I really liked Guardians and TWS, those two movies brought my interest back in the MCU, but I was really disappointed with the first Avengers. I can't wait for Daredevil though.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

That looks better.

 

[YoNoSe]

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New pic

I kind of see the fake brows there. Just not as profound as it was in the comics.

I wonder if his appearance evolves*as he becomes accustomed to being a rock dude.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

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New pic

I kind of see the fake brows there. Just not as profound as it was in the comics.

Looks awesome

If the movie is good I bet there'll be far more of those who wanted it to fail who'll never admit it wasn't god-awful than there would be 'defenders' if the movie is ba.
Many have cemented their opinions that they hate it long ago and seeing it won't change that. Me, I'm optimistic, if it's poor then that'll be a damn shame but I look at all of the talent involved and a unique approach that interests me so I'm hoping it'll be good and perhaps most significantly I wont dismiss a movie if it's different from a specific version of the comics. Guardians was awesome even though it changed a lot.

From my experience people too often relate the movie not being what they want to bad quality. A lot of the reasons people say it will be bad is them not being 616 ages, not wearing blue spandex and not being white and those elements have no impact on if it's good or not.

Afterall the last movies ticked all those boxes but we're mediocre movies.

if it is a bad movie in movie content stuff like acting, story, pacing, directing and so forth then that is why it's be bad not because of the adaption differences.

There's a good few comic book movies that are quite accurate but considered poor quality and ones that aren't as accurate but considered good to great because they're better in story, acting, writing, action and so forth.

This movie will live or die on the filmmaking stuff and not the level of accuracy to a version of the comic it's not based on.

 

[cilantropants]

Getting a real Galaxy Quest vibe from that picture. He looks more like a collection of stones, rather than that being a near-impervious hide.
Face is alright.

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

I'm not liking CG Thing's face..

It's seriously reminding me of an orange, lumpy Bay-Turtle mug.

 

[YoNoSe]

When you are adapting well known material, the quality of the adaptation is just as important as any other element. This could be a wonderfully acted and directed movie and still be a terrible Fantastic Four movie, having nothing to do with people's expectations.

If this was Josh Trank's original superhero team it would be a different story.

That said, I don't think too many people are invested enough in this one to have a stubborn stance about it.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

True but an in-accurate adaption that's a good movie beats an accurate adaption that sucks imo.

Also this isn't as in-accurate as people like to think.

It's based on Ultimate and is as accurate to that as most comic book movies are. All make changes, some big and some small but just because it's not 616 doesn't mean it's not at all the F4.

One could call TDK version of Batman a terrible adaption of the character as its nothing like the brave and the bold Batman or Hulk the completely the wrong colour and not at all like Grey Hulk or Joe Fixit. The thing is that like this those aren't based on those versions of the characters.

When questioning accuracy it's only right to compare to the actual version it's based on.

The only things majorly different are the costumes, which have all but confirmed to be prototypes and Sue being adopted by the Storms who are now black instead of white.

The rest seems quite close yet people keep looking at it as being in-accurate to 616, which it's not based on. The expectations are at fault not the movie, they've made it clear it's not based on 616 since the casting.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I think the quality of the adaptation is just important to F4 fans or fans of the source material, not the majority of the movie going audience. Believe it or not, the studio and the producer's job is to make a great film...or at least as good as it can be. Personally, I don't care if a movie is faithful to a book because they are two different things, and as long as the film is good, it doesn't matter. In a perfect world, sure it would be great if every film was faithful to the source material, but ultimately they don't have to, and the film shouldn't be if the people making that film feel it doesn't need to be for the film to be good. X Men DOFP is nothing like the comic...but it was still a good film, and a good X men movie too.

 

[YoNoSe]

True but an in-accurate adaption that's a good movie beats an accurate adaption that sucks imo.

Also this isn't as in-accurate as people like to think.

It's based on Ultimate and is as accurate to that as most comic book movies are. All make changes, some big and some small but just because it's not 616 doesn't mean it's not at all the F4.

One could call TDK version of Batman a terrible adaption of the character as its nothing like the brave and the bold Batman or Hulk the completely the wrong colour and not at all like Grey Hulk or Joe Fixit. The thing is that like this those aren't based on those versions of the characters.

When questioning accuracy it's only right to compare to the actual version it's based on.

The only things majorly different are the costumes, which have all but confirmed to be prototypes and Sue being adopted by the Storms who are now black instead of white.

The rest seems quite close yet people keep looking at it as being in-accurate to 616, which it's not based on. The expectations are at fault not the movie, they've made it clear it's not based on 616 since the casting.

Is Dr. Doom a computer hacker with a different name in Ultimates? How does Ben's bicycle figure into it?

These are the elements they've shown the public up until very recently. I wouldn't say expectations are "at fault" and it's certainly too soon to determine the quality of the movie as any kind of adaptation. I would say the marketing and comments from the filmmakers are not doing the movie any favors.

And I still hope it's good.

 

[karamazov80]

Believe it or not, the studio and the producer's job is to make a great film...or at least as good as it can be.

Their job is to make a movie that sells tickets! Which sometimes means making a movie crappier than creators would otherwise prefer (pretty sure they are working on their 4th or 5th Chipmunks movie).

As for the Ultimates comparison, I haven't read any of that for a few years and obviously there are, again, cosmetic similarities (science is more pseudo-realistic, cast is younger), but tone still seems totally off. And from what Trank says, he's not trying to do justice to the Ultimates anyway, he's trying to do his own thing, telling his team not to read the comics, etc. So, I wouldn't establish expectations that this film should be like the Ultimates.