Favorite Superhero Movie of Summer 2012? (don't vote till you've seen em all please)

[Deckard]

 

[Darth Snoopy]

I liked all three movies equally.

This was a great summer for superhero movies, regardless of whether you liked them all or not.

 

[Deckard]

This was a great summer for superhero movies, regardless of whether you liked them all or not.

Yes indeedy.

 

[Voorhees27]

Deckard; one of the five

My Shining buddy sold out big time.

 

[wofford29]

I'm worried to be enjoying Newsroom on HBO because everything he likes on that channel gets canceled.

 

[Deckard]

My Shining buddy sold out big time.

It's my mother. She, uh … interferes. Perhaps I need a good talking to.

I'm worried to be enjoying Newsroom on HBO because everything he likes on that channel gets canceled.

Not everything, just Milch.

 

[Voorhees27]

I will corrrrrect you.

 

[thenammagazine]

Veritas liberat, Gotham knights 47-49. He gets very emotional inwhich then Bruce proceeds to fund Banes travels to find his true biological father.

The point is, as I made earlier in the other thread, in the context of a comic, half-hazard "shock value" tactics are made to sell books because the writers and the readers all know that absolutely none of it is permanent, that at some point things would return to the normalcy that's been established. The characters will eventually realize their faults and undo them. You can't take those liberties and make them finite in a film and expect everybody to be happy with them. Their finality is what makes them blatant character assassinations.

 

[Bullseye]

I liked all three movies equally.

This was a great summer for superhero movies, regardless of whether you liked them all or not.

I agree, I enjoyed all three movies very much for different reasons. Great year for movies compared to the previous two years since the writers strike.

 

[The Josh]

This was a great summer for superhero movies, regardless of whether you liked them all or not.

Yeah, it's been a fun summer for super hero movies. While, I didn't enjoy them all the same I didn't dislike any of them either.

 

[wofford29]

The point is, as I made earlier in the other thread, in the context of a comic, half-hazard "shock value" tactics are made to sell books because the writers and the readers all know that absolutely none of it is permanent, that at some point things would return to the normalcy that's been established. The characters will eventually realize their faults and undo them. You can't take those liberties and make them finite in a film and expect everybody to be happy with them. Their finality is what makes them blatant character assassinations.

I'm failing to see how it's finite with a reboot already announced. This is no different than the recycling of comics after someone has told their story arc. This story could just as easily been in print as a one-shot like the million others out there taking a stab at it.

 

[thenammagazine]

I'm failing to see how it's finite with a reboot already announced. This is no different than the recycling of comics after someone has told their story arc. This story could just as easily been in print as a one-shot like the million others out there taking a stab at it.

Not really. Unlike comics, Nolan's series is over so whatever actions the characters took in those movies are finite within that context. They're not stories that unfold in future movies and despite how much I'd like to see the movie's epilogue see reality in 2014 as the "reboot" I seriously doubt they'll even connect it to Nolan's movies. And considering this has been the best Batman to come along, dismissing it as an Elseworlds "book," is inexcusable given those are essentially meaningless.

 

[Josh-A-Tron]

Not really. Unlike comics, Nolan's series is over so whatever actions the characters took in those movies are finite within that context. They're not stories that unfold in future movies and despite how much I'd like to see the movie's epilogue see reality in 2014 as the "reboot" I seriously doubt they'll even connect it to Nolan's movies. And considering this has been the best Batman to come along, dismissing it as an Elseworlds "book," is inexcusable given those are essentially meaningless.

I agree with this, It even came out earlier this week that Nolan no longer has any interest in even being a producer on the Batman Reboot, he said he's done.

So what we get next is going to be entirely new....which scares me because the WB's track record isn't exactly exemplary.

However I disagree with the "elseworld's are meaningless". Stories are stories. Some of the best stories are off shoots/one-offs/mini-series. Just because they don't permanently effect the characters for ever an ever doesn't mean they have no meaning. At least, to me.

 

[wofford29]

I guess I don't see at any different than Frank Millers run with The Dark Knight Returns and Strikes Again or something like Year 100 that I mentioned in another thread. They are all very finite as well and the show goes on. I really hope the reboot doesn't attempt to tie in at all. I prefer one shots and new interpretations in comics these days as opposed to the on going series for the very reason of always recycling but still trying to connect it all.

 

[thenammagazine]

I agree with this, It even came out earlier this week that Nolan no longer has any interest in even being a producer on the Batman Reboot, he said he's done.

So what we get next is going to be entirely new....which scares me because the WB's track record isn't exactly exemplary.

However I disagree with the "elseworld's are meaningless". Stories are stories. Some of the best stories are off shoots/one-offs/mini-series. Just because they don't permanently effect the characters for ever an ever doesn't mean they have no meaning. At least, to me.

Unfortunately, what I consider the greatest comic story ever told, Kingdom Come, is an Elseworlds tale. As awesome and epic as that is, it's not even canon. Same with Miller's TDKR (the real one). Easily in the top 10 and that's not canon either. Which while there's no disputing they're absolutely fantastic reads, they serve no purpose other than to entertain the reader. That's a damn shame.

 

[wofford29]

That's not a shame to me, it's become what I prefer. I think a reason why they are so good is exactly because they aren't tied to constraints.

A dream movie of mine has always been an animated Kingdom Come that matched Ross's art style.

 

[devilof76]

Canonicity is overrated.

 

[Niltusk]

Canon has its place, but you guys are right, some of the greatest stories are non-canon. When I was a kid What-if was one of my favorite series, just because of the differences heros would get into compared to with what we knew of them.

One of my favorites was what if Iron Man remained stuck in King Arthurs court. I think I read that poor comic into dust.

(Looking back, its probably why I identified and enjoyed the movie AoD so much)

 

[devilof76]

Canon maintains monthly readership. I like the experience of an ongoing tale, but I prefer a concise plot and theme to perpetual episodes.

 

[thenammagazine]

Canon maintains monthly readership. I like the experience of an ongoing tale, but I prefer a concise plot and theme to perpetual episodes.

I agree to some extent but also believe that canon means the story will have lasting effects and impact the character in the long run. That it has a meaning that's not just superficial.