Fett Undressed

[Bannister]

Well, Bannister, I will give you this ... you have balls, I will give you that ... Unfortunately, you are tied to a chair and Dave has a rope with a BIG knot on it. And I don't see a Mr. White coming to your rescue at the last minute. Oh well, see in you a few days ...

For some reason I got Stuck in the Middle with You in my head.

 

[Bonehead15]

This thread is great!!

I think people are upset as the end product they get is cheaper material wise

yes the tooling of abs is more expensive but people can't display the tooling or feel the quality of the tooling

both cost same price to manufacture but but one is made of lesser material

I agree Karma. Most people, like myself, who are against the ABS feel the same way.

 

[kierbaudy]

Truly curious, if Boba is all clothes, why retool?

 

[DouglasMcc]

For some reason I got Stuck in the Middle with You in my head.

Umm ... wrong movie there sport LOL ... think about it ... recent DVD release. You can do this my young padawan ...

 

[EVILFACE]

Looks to me you could turn him into a action figure. Wonder if he clothes and stuff could be made to fit that super articulated 18" Spiderman?

 

[The Josh]

I walk away and things get interesting.

 

[Agent0028]

This whole ABS vs. Polystone debate is so far over my head I've given up on trying to understand it. I just hope I like Fett. If not that Obi vs. Ani piece is looking nice. Or maybe I'll just get a smaller Boba and Jango from Medicom.

P.S. Customikey I just noticed the repainting of Luke in your sig, it looks awesome.

 

[kodiak8658]

People who are saying it's overpriced aren't being accurate.

They really mean that the perceived value for them isn't as high as it would be if it were polystone. However SSC is making just as much or as little profit on this piece as any other PF, and probably a little less (due to the tooling). So in that regard, how can it be "overpriced?"

Say it ain't so Dave. In my opinion, an item is either overpriced or of value. You seem strong in the opinion that Boba isn't overpriced. Does that mean you feel this 18", $325 real action figure with no articulation is of value? I don't want to put words in your mouth so please explain if this is the case.

Since Sideshow made an obvious error when deciding to start off with polystone, then changing the media to ABS, how can the consumer be expected to pay the brunt? If this were any other figure, this may not have been as big a deal. But Boba is one of the most well liked, anticipated statues SS will put out from the SW PF line. It's long awaited arrival seems to be plaqued with disappointment from those of us that expected a little more bang for our buck. And the Exclusive makes it all the more ill conceived.

 

[MisterToyNYC]

The problem is its over-priced, your paying $325.00 for a piece of plastic and some cloth.

Yup. And you'll be paying double that later on in the after-market.

Eric

 

[kodiak8658]

Yup. And you'll be paying double that later on in the after-market.

Eric

Maybe on your website. Nice way to promote your competitive prices. I'll be there say....turn of the millenium.

 

[DouglasMcc]

Yup. And you'll be paying double that later on in the after-market.

Eric

Yeah ... because every other PF Star Wars figures has incre... oh wait, NONE of them have held their value. The closest one to that was the Grevious with cape and even it is sliding down the slippery slope towards retail. If Boba is worth 700 bucks even a year from now, I will drive to NYC and personally kiss your ... arse.

 

[El Roranous]

Yeah ... because every other PF Star Wars figures has incre... oh wait, NONE of them have held their value. The closest one to that was the Grevious with cape and even it is sliding down the slippery slope towards retail. If Boba is worth 700 bucks even a year from now, I will drive to NYC and personally kiss your ... arse.

Hmmm...I'd be careful with your promises.

I wouldn't want to live up to my end of the bargain on that one.

 

[DouglasMcc]

Hmmm...I'd be careful with your promises.

I wouldn't want to live up to my end of the bargain on that one.

Good call El. I will make one stipulation - Mister Toy must bath and clean said arse 10 minutes before I complete my promise ... IF the Fett is worth 700 dollars a year from now.

P.S. And no Mr. Toy, don't think we will fall for a fake auction bought by a fake buyer. It must be an overall average price. With all this red tape, I am starting to feel like a Republican ... "before those U.S. attorneys are fired, please ask them to come in here and kiss my arse ... but only on the left side. Understood Condi?"

 

[Darklord Dave]

Since Sideshow made an obvious error when deciding to start off with polystone, then changing the media to ABS, how can the consumer be expected to pay the brunt?

See, you're still assuming that it is cheaper for them to produce the figure this way and thus it is over priced. That is the misconception that I'm attempting to correct.

If you've paid $300-350 for previous SW PFs and felt that they were "of value" than Boba is also "of value" since it is produced so as to deliver the most accurate representation of the look of the prototype and of the character. The materials used should be immaterial.

 

[Agent0028]

I agree with Dave on that point, if this Boba Fett looks as good as the rest of my PF's sitting on the shelf then to me it is worth the price I paid. I may be a fool for it, but its worth it to me. The biggest reason I am getting Boba is because I think it will look nice to have him and Jango side by side. I could easily get them that way with the Medicom figures, but they would look strange sitting with my PF's, so if ABS PF Fett looks good with the Poly PF I'll consider my money well spent. And if he doesn't look good...Medicom here I come.

 

[customizerwannabe]

I think a large amount of the perceived "lesser value" comes from the fact that up until now, all of the PF's with the exception of Vader(?) have had a polystone head, hands, etc. That gave the PF a nice clothed sculpture look and feel. This piece doesn't require that. The body is the only part that would have been appropriately made of polystone. Every other part is better in the materials used.

It's a 300.00+ action figure whether the core is polystone, plastic, or alabaster. There is also very little SS had to do in terms of artistic interpretation. Look at Luke, Leia, Ben, all are works of art. This looks like a blown up Medicom piece. That's how it had to be. Vader was much the same but got a pass. SS was still experiencing a PF honeymoon with SW collectors.

This is an argument that will go on and on, but SS is still laughing all the way to the bank. It's a sell out!

 

[JustinLuck]

Who cares how much Sideshow makes from each figure? That is their business. It's up to them to decide what price point will give them the most profit. It is our job as customers to decide if the product is worth that much to us. If enough people believe it is not, then Sideshow will be left with overstock and will be forced to lower the price until they find a price point that is more agreeable with its customers.

 

[pixletwin]

I think the thing that upsets collectors is this: polystone has more of a "hands-on" feel to them - like one of the virtues of polystone is that each seperate piece is unique and individual; whereas plastic has connotations of a mass-produced product which is stamped out and sent "en masse" to the consumer.

Whether this is the reality or not, I have no clue...

 

[bonsey]

At the end of the day ABS and Polystone are both plastics, one lighter than the other-thats it.I agree its nice to have a heavy felling statue but with a character like Fett where the majority of the figure is covered in material does it really matter that much? Just means it will be an easier task to display him, not having to worry about shelves falling down!!
I have been told by a friend at Sideshow that the decision was made due to the large number of breakages they had with the Darth Vader figure.

 

[kodiak8658]

See, you're still assuming that it is cheaper for them to produce the figure this way and thus it is over priced. That is the misconception that I'm attempting to correct.

If you've paid $300-350 for previous SW PFs and felt that they were "of value" than Boba is also "of value" since it is produced so as to deliver the most accurate representation of the look of the prototype and of the character. The materials used should be immaterial.

What made the production cost for this item equal to or more than polystone? An error which caused a change in media mid-stride. The only guideline we have to follow is previously produced PF statues, most of which were made with polystone. Since I have collected art of any kind, the unwritten rule of thumb is the heavier the piece, the better the quality and the bigger the pricetag.

No matter how we slice it, if the previous 'standard of excellence' was a heavier polystone piece, then any less than that standard is considered not as great a value by the people forking over the cash. The collectors are speaking out and SS should listen.

IE: Do you remember when Chyrsler almost went bankrupt and started producing the 'K' cars? They were made of much cheaper materials and were designed to maximize profit. Their pricetag was middle of the road but their quality was crap. It was basically a throw away car. Only the sales pitch, buy American, made by Americans, sold the car. How many are around today?

Sideshow's moto is 'Collect for Life'. I have serious issues these Bobas will outlast the quality of polystone. And with the pricetag about the same, the collector loses. Better not even display Boba and keep it in an air controlled environment or you may have a blob of silly putty with clothes.

If the materials used are immaterial, why so many complaints? Obviously the materials used are a major consideration among the collector community, and SS trying to convince us there is no difference between ABS and polystone is an exercise in futility. People forge their own opinions and know what they want...and also what they don't want. ABS at the price of polystone is the 'K' car all over again.