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Darklord Dave said:
People who are saying it's overpriced aren't being accurate.

They really mean that the perceived value for them isn't as high as it would be if it were polystone. However SSC is making just as much or as little profit on this piece as any other PF, and probably a little less (due to the tooling). So in that regard, how can it be "overpriced?"

What he said. :)
 
Frankly, I don't get why they had to retool. From the looks of it, the figure is ALL clothes. They could have kept the polystone body and if the outer armour had to be plastic, then so be it. But, the polystone body could hold a pack made of polystone, but the plastic one can't. Anyway, the justification really doesn't make sense to me.
 
Darklord Dave said:
People who are saying it's overpriced aren't being accurate.

They really mean that the perceived value for them isn't as high as it would be if it were polystone. However SSC is making just as much or as little profit on this piece as any other PF, and probably a little less (due to the tooling). So in that regard, how can it be "overpriced?"


I think people are upset as the end product they get is cheaper material wise

yes the tooling of abs is more expensive but people can't display the tooling or feel the quality of the tooling

both cost same price to manufacture but but one is made of lesser material
 
Darklord Dave said:
People who are saying it's overpriced aren't being accurate.

They really mean that the perceived value for them isn't as high as it would be if it were polystone. However SSC is making just as much or as little profit on this piece as any other PF, and probably a little less (due to the tooling). So in that regard, how can it be "overpriced?"

God help me, but I am about to do the same thing I decried Nash for doing, but I feel it must be said. First things first, I respect you Dave and I love your site. However, I am going to share my true opinion and I hope it doesn't get me Bannisterized. However, so be it either way.

You, and others - esp. JL, seemed to be telling the others that their opinion isn't valid. That Sideshow is making the same amount as on all the other PFs. That all of these complaints are based on opinions and guesses. Well, I find that hypocritical since you yourself have no way of proving that Sideshow 1.) isn't making more of a profit, 2.) did this for the reasons they stated, or 3.) really retooled in the first place. Does that mean that all of those are lies? No. But what right do any of us, whether we are dissenters or loyalists, have in telling the other side they are wrong? Unless either you can show me in the books that Sideshow is making less money, or Irish and crew can show me Sideshow made more money, its all OPINIONS. The dissenters ... at least the majority ... are stating this situation that way. Why not show them the same respect?

I have said in the past that a collectible is worth what someone is willing to spend. That means if someone feels it is overpriced, IT IS TO THEM. Arguing it and telling them they are wrong isn't going to change their mind, any less that it would change your mind. I am not willing to spend 350 dollars on this item. Of course in all fairness, I wouldn't have spent that amount even if it was poly. But many here were swayed by that fact. So respect their opinions. If you do not feel cheated/ overcharged, then fine. That is your opinion. And that's all that matters ... everyone's personal opinions.
 
Douglas, discussion such as this involves, by it's nature, disagreement. When you complain that someone is "invalidating" your opinion, you're actually decrying that they are disagreeing and arguing with you. To disagree inherently involves the invalidation of the oposing opinion.

So stop acting like your opinion isn't being respected just because not everyone is agreeing with it.

And no one has ever been banned for voicing their opinion in a clear, concise, lucid, and polite manner, as you have done. So stop walking on egg shells.

As to whether or not Sideshow is making more or less money for using plastic, I really don't give a flying fak. Their profit margin is not my problem or my business. I run my own little business too, and I don't feel I have to justify my profits to anyone. I don't pay for my materials nearly what I charge either.

For my part, I really wish I could afford this, as I'd articulate the HELL out of it. Can you imagine!?!
 
Karma said:
I feel a multi-reply post coming :D

I do too my friend .. you know that they say, Karma is ... well, you know :monkey3 ---> :lol

I still like JL ... he seems an okay bloke. I just don't agree with some of the people on the "love it" sides tactics. Doesn't make them bad people.
 
DouglasMcc said:
I do too my friend .. you know that they say, Karma is ... well, you know :monkey3 ---> :lol

I still like JL ... he seems an okay bloke. I just don't agree with some of the people on the "love it" sides tactics. Doesn't make them bad people.

good for the soul? :lol


of course not, it is a thing of wonder that someone cares that much :D
 
Doug, I don't think we're disagreeing. Hence my carefully worded statement--

They really mean that the perceived value for them isn't as high as it would be if it were polystone.

People are making statements of "fact" about the piece, doing exactly what you charge me with doing - but without taking in all the evidence. My statements of "fact" are not my personal opinions but are based on what we have been told my SSC both here, in the blog and my personal conversations with SSC employees. Certainly there may be a vast company wide conspiracy to mislead - but does that make sense? However people saying that it is "overpriced" is very much an opinion which many are giving the weight of fact, when the term is completely subjective.

I'm not trying to invaldate anyone's opinion, I'm just trying to correct misconceptions.
 
DouglasMcc said:
God help me, but I am about to do the same thing I decried Nash for doing, but I feel it must be said. First things first, I respect you Dave and I love your site. However, I am going to share my true opinion and I hope it doesn't get me Bannisterized.
Don't worry Douglas, apparently to get bannisterized by the Darklord you have to post something over and over again in a thread in the sandbox. As long as you stick to name calling and posting slightly pornographic pics, you should just get a warning via PM.
 
Darklord Dave said:
and my personal conversations with SSC employees.

Is that how you know Sideshow is making just as much profit on Fett as previous PFs? Has a representative confirmed this with you? If so, please say so because that would definitively end a good chunk of the debate/arguing over this issue.
 
Sith Lord 0498 said:
Is that how you know Sideshow is making just as much profit on Fett as previous PFs? Has a representative confirmed this with you? If so, please say so because that would definitively end a good chunk of the debate/arguing over this issue.
Even if a rep came here and confirmed it, which I think they already have, the naysayers would say the rep. was lying to not make Sideshow look bad and the cheerleaders would say see, we told you so and on and on and on it would go.
 
Don't worry Douglas, apparently to get bannisterized by the Darklord you have to post something over and over again in a thread in the sandbox. As long as you stick to name calling and posting slightly pornographic pics, you should just get a warning via PM.

Snarky sarcastic comments can do it too.
 
I'm not going to get into the whole polystone or ABS plastic rotuine all over again. I'll just chime in with this...

I canceled mine, and going on pictures I have seen. I am happy with the decision I made.

Save myself $325 + S/H

to me this one ain't worth it.

:cool:
 
Bannister said:
Actually Dave from my experience that wasn't sarcasm.

Well, Bannister, I will give you this ... you have balls, I will give you that ... Unfortunately, you are tied to a chair and Dave has a rope with a BIG knot on it. And I don't see a Mr. White coming to your rescue at the last minute. Oh well, see in you a few days ... :monkey3
 
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