Fred barton 1:1 Robocop bust

[Ash Housewares]

with regards to

 

[azurepred]

Not sure I would consider this a custom if it's being licensed my
MGM. When you look at it that way 250 is very low. I was hoping to see more pics from different angles. This is obviously based on robocop 2 as the chin guard is glossy and the shoulders ( chest plate) are both missing the two bolts on each side. Paint also has a bluish tint.

maybe not a custom in those terms, but I think the amount of quality you guys are expecting from it, needs the care and time of what a custom brings. I have never talked to Fred, so I don't know the facts, but if 250 of these things will be pushed out in a matter of months, I would have to think it would have it's small flaws like any SS piece . I wander how many guys Fred has working with him on just the bust alone............

 

[Ash Housewares]

Most flaws on sideshow pieces are because they are mass produced in a factory by people who have no passion for what they are doing and in most cases no talent. I'm sure Freds team is alot better than anyone in sideshows factory.

 

[Atheris]

Most flaws on sideshow pieces are because they are mass produced in a factory by people who have no passion for what they are doing and in most cases no talent. I'm sure Freds team is alot better than anyone in sideshows factory.

...........

Chris

 

[masterside]

Most flaws on sideshow pieces are because they are mass produced in a factory by people who have no passion for what they are doing and in most cases no talent. I'm sure Freds team is alot better than anyone in sideshows factory.

You say a lot of crap

Fred Barton it's an artist no problem for me!

But the Staff working in the U.S. at Sideshow like Trevor Grove, Tom Gililland, Tim Miller, Heath Hammond and others .... are also artists.

I do not agree that you criticize the Chinese who work in factories.

It's easy to criticize the mass production when you yourselves are the architects of this system!

In short it is easy to criticize and to spit in the soup! But you are in total paradox.

 

[Ash Housewares]

WTF are u talking about? I was talking about the painters in China not the artists at Sideshow in the US.

 

[Atheris]

You say a lot of crap

Fred Barton it's an artist no problem for me!

But the Staff working in the U.S. at Sideshow like Trevor Grove, Tom Gililland, Tim Miller, Heath Hammond and others .... are also artists.

It's easy to criticize the mass production when you yourselves are the architects of this system!

In short it is easy to criticize and to spit in the soup! But you are in total paradox.

I dont like you ether

Chris

 

[thx217]

Most flaws on sideshow pieces are because they are mass produced in a factory by people who have no passion for what they are doing and in most cases no talent. I'm sure Freds team is alot better than anyone in sideshows factory.

And here's another one.

You say a lot of crap

Fred Barton it's an artist no problem for me!

But the Staff working in the U.S. at Sideshow like Trevor Grove, Tom Gililland, Tim Miller, Heath Hammond and others .... are also artists.

I do not agree that you criticize the Chinese who work in factories.

It's easy to criticize the mass production when you yourselves are the architects of this system!

In short it is easy to criticize and to spit in the soup! But you are in total paradox.

LOL, you didn't even read the post, didn't you?

 

[Bezzerkerr]

This is obviously based on robocop 2 as the chin guard is glossy and the shoulders ( chest plate) are both missing the two bolts on each side. Paint also has a bluish tint.

The sculptor said this sculpt was based on Robocop 1. I recall Fred saying the paintjob is something of a hybrid of the best of Robocop 1 and the best of Robocop 3.

I would have to think it would have it's small flaws like any SS piece . I wander how many guys Fred has working with him on just the bust alone............

Not sure how many people are working on these but he used the word "crew" when i first spoke with him and i am not execting ANY flaws whatsoever.

Most flaws on sideshow pieces are because they are mass produced in a factory by people who have no passion for what they are doing and in most cases no talent. I'm sure Freds team is alot better than anyone in sideshows factory.

This is an accurate statement...but i'm sure they have some talent and passion but when it's an edition size of a couple thousand that's when the talent and passion goes out the window plus i'm sure they're paid very little

But the Staff working in the U.S. at Sideshow like Trevor Grove, Tom Gililland, Tim Miller, Heath Hammond and others .... are also artists.

I do not agree that you criticize the Chinese who work in factories.

The chinese factories are a good cost effective method to produce a product, but far from ideal.

 

[Reinhardt]

Interesting posts as of late.

Agree with Berzerker - Fred said this is based on Robocop 1 with a paintjob blend of Robo 1 and 2. He didn't care for the Rainbow so much from Part 2. He was saying that the colors in part 1 changed from scene to scene, so it's very hard to get the definitive paint job. There actually was quite a lot of blue in his suit. I only know this because I watched it again the other day. I always remembered it having less blue, but I think that is only because there was so much in Part 2.

As for the factory worker / quality discussion, here are my 2 cents. I cannot blame the factory workers for doing a bad job on the paint. While it is true that they probably do not share the same passion than those that sculpted the original statue, or painted the prototype, in the end, it is Sideshow that is signing off on the product. How many times have we received a statue that has the QC sticker on it, and yet the thing is riddled with quality control problems? Without me knowing anything about the process, I would think that Sideshow has to sign off on every product. So if they are signing off on products that are of inferior quality, they are essentially saying that it is "OK" to go out.

I know it's more complicated than that, and I'm sure there are many things out of their hands, but that's the way I see it.

 

[Ash Housewares]

It's definately missing 2 bolts on each collar. Robo 2, 3 and the other travestys all had this detail missing. I would post a pic but I'm on an iPhone and it's a pain in the butt. I don't really mind that it's missing those parts but they definately aren't there.

 

[Reinhardt]

Yeah, I see it here:

Damn you Ash! Calling Fred to cancel my order now.

 

[Ash Housewares]

I know it's a deal breaker right.

 

[Ash Housewares]

I know it's a deal breaker right.

 

[blazingb]

The sculptor said this sculpt was based on Robocop 1. I recall Fred saying the paintjob is something of a hybrid of the best of Robocop 1 and the best of Robocop 3.

I can second this statement, I too spoke with Fred on the phone and he said that the bust will be influenced by the best of Robocop 1 and 3. He said he found Robocop 2's Blue too distracting. I can see the two bolts missing from the collar....A very minor adjustment, however if they base the colouring of the bust on the first Robocop film i will be more than happy.

 

[Reinhardt]

Bolts or FAIL!!

But seriously, I am curious if there are any scenes in the first Robocop where he doesn't have the bolts. I GUESS I will have to watch it again. Dammit!

 

[Ash Housewares]

Lol. Like anyone needs a reason to watch such an awesome film. I've studied alot if stills from the first movie ( I'm sad and I was thinking of doing a drawing) and all the pictures have them. I was merely pointing it out.

 

[blazingb]

I think it's going to be too late to add the additions of the bolts....which is a shame really, In my opinion they should have based the bust on soley Robocop 1, because lets face it that is the best one out of the bunch.

 

[Reinhardt]

Don't you mean the ONLY one of the bunch?

 

[Ash Housewares]

I used to like the 2nd but after watching them back to back it's a terrible follow up. The tone of the film is so different and the script and acting is abysmal.