General Trek discussion

[davejames]

Star Trek: Section 31 need a tier below Garbage. Holy @#$% was that awful. lol

Wow you weren't kidding. That was absolutely painful to sit through, and the characters were some of the most aggressively annoying I've ever seen in a movie. And there was no resemblance whatsoever to the Section 31 we've seen previously, even in DSC.

Also infuriating that they set a movie in the Lost Era and didn't show us even one starship or officer in a monster maroon. I mean what the hell was the point then? I realize they had a limited budget, but surely they could have done more with the time period and thrown the fans at least a few cool moments to geek out over.

 

[DParga21]

Wow you weren't kidding. That was absolutely painful to sit through, and the characters were some of the most aggressively annoying I've ever seen in a movie. And there was no resemblance whatsoever to the Section 31 we've seen previously, even in DSC.

Also infuriating that they set a movie in the Lost Era and didn't show us even one starship or officer in a monster maroon. I mean what the hell was the point then? I realize they had a limited budget, but surely they could have done more with the time period and thrown the fans at least a few cool moments to geek out over.

I haven't finished it yet, but that's probably the worst part, i's the wasted opportunities. Why bother putting it in that era, if you don’t make use of it?
One of the most important things I was taught in my creative writing classes was, have a reason for where and when your story takes place. My book, for instance, took place in West Virginia in 1997, and my professors grilled me about why it was there, and then, as opposed to contemporary to where and when I live.
I have a feeling if those same questions were asked of these writers, they wouldn't have a good answer.

 

[davejames]

I suspect the time period might have played a bigger role when this was originally going to be a miniseries. But once it got paired down to a 90 minute movie the point of all that got lost.

 

[Pauln6a]

S31 was a bit too schlocky for my tastes. It felt more like an episode of Killjoys but without any sense of irony. It was entertaining but very low brow.

Two things I disliked the most (vague spoilers):

1. They are intelligence operatives who, well, are just not very intelligent. They don't have much in the way of scientific method or logic skills. Whether that's to make Georgieau look more impressive, I don't know.

2. Why do American writers think torture is acceptable, or even effective, let alone a routine part of operating procedure for the Federation of all people? They have so much technology, drugs, telepathy (Deltans were the precursor for Betazoids). I find it really offensive.

I did like the Deltan, although I'm not sure why an espionage agent threw herself into a brawl instead of focusing on her mission.

I can see how this could have worked better if they were a bunch of non-Starfleet mercenaries. As covert operatives, they were terrible.

 

[DParga21]

S31 was a bit too schlocky for my tastes. It felt more like an episode of Killjoys but without any sense of irony. It was entertaining but very low brow.

Two things I disliked the most (vague spoilers):

1. They are intelligence operatives who, well, are just not very intelligent. They don't have much in the way of scientific method or logic skills. Whether that's to make Georgieau look more impressive, I don't know.

2. Why do American writers think torture is acceptable, or even effective, let alone a routine part of operating procedure for the Federation of all people? They have so much technology, drugs, telepathy (Deltans were the precursor for Betazoids). I find it really offensive.

I did like the Deltan, although I'm not sure why an espionage agent threw herself into a brawl instead of focusing on her mission.

I can see how this could have worked better if they were a bunch of non-Starfleet mercenaries. As covert operatives, they were terrible.

Yeah, if you compare this plot to the one from Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges, it's like night and day

 

[TheClient]

I'm surprised how low some of you are ranking TAS. The animation is sketchy at best, but the stories are solid. One episode ends with Kirk and Spock sharing tankards of ale with literally Satan!

 

[davejames]

I've given TAS several tries over the years, but have just never been able to get into it. The actors sounded bored as hell recording it, which makes the whole thing feel dull and lifeless as a result.