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I almost feel sorry for anybody who's expecting to go and see this film and enjoy it. It was obviously going to be a steaming pile. Last film was awful, Gamer was a pile of poo and the fact it has Nic Cage in it is just the icing on the brown cake. He only accepts roles in crap.
 
I started this thread as I was hoping they would have made a good film, sadly no, the film is boring and unoriginal to the point it seems to steal from every movie ever made about the devil, the 3D is rubbish, it's less scary than an episode of Doctor Who, and everybody in the film seems uninterested in what they are doing including Cage.

3 out of 10 because the Ghost Rider looked good, that's about it.
 
I started this thread as I was hoping they would have made a good film, sadly no, the film is boring and unoriginal to the point it seems to steal from every movie ever made about the devil, the 3D is rubbish, it's less scary than an episode of Doctor Who, and everybody in the film seems uninterested in what they are doing including Cage.

3 out of 10 because the Ghost Rider looked good, that's about it.

If I liked the 1st one will I like this one?
 
God____ingdammnit. Not even the devil could make anything good out of that ____ty script. I feel bad for Neveldine/Taylor. They tried. They tried so hard. But it just sucked. I didn't hate it. But man, it was ____ing BORING.

N/T should've just re-wrote it. I wish it was stupider. The action was great though. And Ghost Rider looked neat. But yeah. ____.

It took too long to get anywhere. I wanted LESS story. Set up the movie, and get going. But I blame the script. N/T always write their own, and it feels natural. This felt...synthetic. Except during the action.

Oh and Cage was fine. A bit too crazy, needed some more of his Drive Angry character.

4/10

First massive disappointment of 2012.

:( :( :( well poo...
 
I almost feel sorry for anybody who's expecting to go and see this film and enjoy it. It was obviously going to be a steaming pile. Last film was awful, Gamer was a pile of poo and the fact it has Nic Cage in it is just the icing on the brown cake. He only accepts roles in crap.

Feel sorry for your self as someone who cant have fun. Even though you did enjoy TF3 a bit. I had to go after your insulting comment.

Crank was great. I feel sorry for anyone that didn't like that. This wasn't. It should've been. Ht wasn't.

Also, Bad Lt would like to disagree with you. Hard.
 
Feel sorry for your self as someone who cant have fun. Even though you did enjoy TF3 a bit. I had to go after your insulting comment.

Crank was great. I feel sorry for anyone that didn't like that. This wasn't. It should've been. Ht wasn't.

Also, Bad Lt would like to disagree with you. Hard.

So was it better or worse than the first one?
 
Possibly worse. I don't know. I like the N/T bits, ans some the jokes...but i don't know. Both movies are so goddamn stupid and boring. Why the ____ is it so hard to make a movie about a flaming skull biker? ??!

Does the character suck or something? Why did they let anyone make that script into a movie?

I wonder if there was a directors cut or something. It was too sane for a N/T flick.
 
Feel sorry for your self as someone who cant have fun. Even though you did enjoy TF3 a bit. I had to go after your insulting comment.

Crank was great. I feel sorry for anyone that didn't like that. This wasn't. It should've been. Ht wasn't.

Also, Bad Lt would like to disagree with you. Hard.

Crank was OK. Crank 2 wasn't. I can have fun but not with tripe.
 
I disagree. See, Crank 2 was just insane. It was so different and out there. People. Don't like that. That's why it exists. To make those people mad. I thought it was funny. I got what they were trying to say. They dig explotation movies. They just did whatever they wanted. And if you're game for it, you'll enjoy it. Most people don't like being pushed over their limit. I guess I understand, but I don't know.

I like movies that don't take themselves seriously. Even when its bad. As long as they know it and embrace it.
 
From Bad Ass Digest:

If 2012 holds another film as catastrophically bad as Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance, it’ll be one of the most dismal years on record. The Neveldine/Taylor drug trip has come to the inevitable crash, leaving us with the cinematic equivalent of someone sitting strung out on a park bench, their pants soaked in urine.

Look, I get the Neveldine/Taylor ‘thing.’ I was a huge supporter of Crank and Crank 2. But the problems in Ghost Rider aren’t of the ‘IT’S TOO CRAZY!’ or ‘THEY’RE BREAKING ALL THE RULES!’ sort, they’re of basic incompetence and lack of drive. Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance is tedious.

The film’s a shapeless mess. There’s a throughline, but it’s not particularly compelling and it’s told poorly. There’s a holy child born, and the Devil - who walks the Earth in Ciarin Hinds’ form - wants him. Idris Elba is a drunk monk dedicated to saving the boy, and he enlists Johnny Blaze to help. Blaze is told that if he saves the boy, Elba can remove the demon Zathura from him. In order to give Ghost Rider something to do in the movie, the Devil turns terrible actor Johnny Whitworth into Blackout, a villain who decays anything he touches.

This sort of a by the numbers story wouldn’t be so bad if Neveldine/Taylor brought their usual nuttiness and inventive energy, but outside of an opening sequence that sees Elba flying off the side of a mountain shooting bad guys, the film is a snooze. I don’t know if a low budget hobbled them or if it was simply sheer laziness, but the film is slack and there are a dearth of action scenes. In fact you’ve seen most of them in the marketing campaign already; hopes that Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance holds unshown zaniness should be quashed immediately.

What we’re left with is a rotten knock off of Terminator 2, with Johnny Blaze as the Terminator,_ irritating child actor Fergus Riordan as John Connor and shockingly sub-talented actress Violante Placido as Sarah Connor. These scenes are excruciating, and they’re endless. The movie is made up of about 80% filler, and much of that filler is these three bouncing off of each other. The vaunted shot of Ghost Rider pissing fire? A throwaway gag in the ‘bonding’ process between Blaze and the kid.

Most disappointing is the fact that Nicolas Cage is completely phoning it in. He’s not bringing the real crazy or the honest weird - he’s playing to the cult. He’s doing what he thinks you want to see, and with one or two exceptions he’s totally wrong. What makes crazy Nic Cage work is the truth and the commitment, the sense that he believes this is a valid choice. This is crazy Nic Cage doing the dance but not feeling the beat.

It says a lot that Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance made me nostalgic for the bad first film. This is a movie of shattering ineptitude, starting at the script and reaching into every aspect of the cheap, rushed, ____ty-looking production. There’s something contemptuous about serving a movie like this to an audience._
 
So unlike the first film Ghost Rider looks dumb, but similar to the first it's also an awful movie? So they took the one redeeming quality of the first film, smashed it to a billion little pieces and left us with one steaming pile of poo?

Nic Cage needs to stay the ____ away from Super Hero movies.
 
Well, the only things good about this movie were Cage as Ghost Rider, not Blaze.
I liked some of the N/T camera work. I liked their little bits of humor thrown in, even if it felt forced. It was the only thing that made me smile from time to time
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If they were let loose, it would've been a more interesting movie.
 
It's not just the script though, it's a low-budget Bulgarian flick. Every damn DTV movie has been shot there and very few make it look like a country I want to ever visit.

I don't get it. The character of Ghost Rider lasted many years in the forms of Blaze or Ketch, hundreds of stories told--many good, drifter comes in and saves the day type. And Goyer was the script writer? The same Goyer with Blade and Batman Begins and TDK as credits (sure he shared credit with Nolan)? I hate Marvel reboots (which this basically is except they retained Cage), but if there are going to do them, can they be better? Why are two of my favorite Marvel characters doomed to mediocre movies...GR and The Punisher... And R isn't the answer...ask the 3 Punisher movies. R didn't make them better.
 
:lol well all right then...I'll go in with lower expectations than initially thought, more chance of enjoyment......:dunno :lol

:monkey2:monkey2

So unlike the first film Ghost Rider looks dumb, but similar to the first it's also an awful movie? So they took the one redeeming quality of the first film, smashed it to a billion little pieces and left us with one steaming pile of poo?

Nic Cage needs to stay the ____ away from Super Hero movies.

:exactly::lecture

Well, the only things good about this movie were Cage as Ghost Rider, not Blaze.
I liked some of the N/T camera work. I liked their little bits of humor thrown in, even if it felt forced. It was the only thing that made me smile from time to time
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If they were let loose, it would've been a more interesting movie.

If the only thing that was good was camera work, it's utter crap :lol
 
In retrospect, at least he never donned the Superman tights. lol

Last good movie Cage was in was Bad Lieutenant, that no one saw and was DTV in the US.
 
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