Ghostbusters Bill Murray Ada group commission

[William Shatners Toupee]

I may repeat a few things here I've talked about before as I answer comments, but thats because older posts where I addressed them the first time have been lost in the wave of new pages.

Bait and switch- Adas heads looking different on her site compared to what you get

Ada will post heads that are not approved or completed yet, at the "unapproved", first attempt stage (like one of the Bill Murray ones we just got) on her site to get pre-prders in as early as possible.

She seems to never update them as she does other modifications and tweaks on them. That's why the Ramis head she offers has short hair, but the one you get had GB II big hair, and the Iron Man "Bishop" hair thing which was the result of asking her to make Bishops spikes higher but she never updated the pic.

I suppose the up-side is that some of her terrible sculpts might look better when you get them if she did more work on them after the first pass.

Ada selling the Bill heads already on her site

Business practice wise, yeah, she sucks. I addressed this in post one, I believe, that she does that, and it would be cheaper.

The difference about ordering them from the forum here and me is that YOU aren't just paying for his head through me, you are actually paying part of the divided commissioning cost that hired Ada to get him made, so you are actually part of what is making that head happen, which as a result lets the other future Ghostbusters heads happen.

THE BILL SCULPT

Just re-addressing a few things here- she TOTALLY gave him the STRIPES hairstyle which is what you are seeing in the sculpt. She was told to give him the GB hair from the other pics I sent. Unfortunately, she tends to miss things in E-mails. I don't know why. I still haven't gauged how good her english is or if she uses a tranlating program since she went to school in America for quite a while and her E-mails are super short.

Regardless, that is getting fixed as issue one. The second thing I asked for was the changes on his profile. After that, like I said, too many changes could ruin the sculpt and I think it looks really nice so far, so we'll see where we're at with him once we get this next stage of changes back.

Serious versus smirk look

The age old action figure debate. We as a group decided earlier on it was gonna be the smart-ass STRIPES pic look for this one though, so sorry if anyone missed that.

The Ghostbusters commissions are going AMAZING though, and as I've mentioned earlier, we have so many people involved, if we want to do a serious Venkman or a "screaming about to be slimed" Venkman or whatever,
those would be possible to do and just as cheap if enough people got involved (and fun to have multiple heads!)

 

[William Shatners Toupee]

ECTO-1

Alright, I got a very nice response back from a 1:6th car customizer from One Sixth Warrior about making an Ecto-One for us.

The more people who are in for one, the cheaper it would be. We also have a choice between museum quality re-production (real expensive but drool worthy) or a more simplified version. Let me re-post his E-mail, them we'll talk some more:

Thank you for contacting me and yes I don’t post a lot, most of my work goes to private collectors that don’t want their commissioned items displayed, I have make all types of item from figures to scaled models to too many thing to name from Singapore, all over the States, Germany, England, Norway, and Japan I do good work its just private most of the time. So, I should be able to make a 1/6 Ecto-1.

I was looking at gbfans.com at some detailed photos of there Ecto-1 and I would most likely make one that looked very much like the real one; I would make it to be a museum quality piece, but to make something like this it would take time and cost would be high because of all the detail. Cost would come down depending on how many people would be willing to commit to ordering one. Or I can make it a little lower on detail if wanted.

If you look on OSW I have some photo of two Japanese tanks when they where completed one sold for $7000 and the other $12000. I wish I could show you them completed but the private collectors do not want them shown.

A Ecto-1 wont cost as much, but I would first need you to see how much someone would be willing to pay for one and how much time would they wait to get one and please keep in mind I don’t find item to use in my projects I make everything and will be of the highs quality.

I posted all the details there so for you Ghostbusters fans with better jobs than the rest of us (damn you!), maybe you'll want to go for the museum quality replica (droooooool!).

But for the rest of us, I was thinking if we got as many potentially interested names as we could on a list here, say we got 20 or 30, and asked for a simplified kit for us, how cheap we could get a kit to make it more affordable to everyone here?

Now, so we don't have a looooong Ecto one thread going on here when we are discussing heads and uniforms, I'm gonna give this it's own thread here.

 

[icruise]

Are there any existing hearses in 1/6 scale that could serve as the base for the vehicle without building from scratch?

 

[William Shatners Toupee]

Are there any existing hearses in 1/6 scale that could serve as the base for the vehicle without building from scratch?

Or I guess even a station wagon if worse came to worse?

 

[Captain Britain]

WST, I think you have had enough dealings with Ada to have a good working relationship. The Bill Murray sculpt is actually a very good sculpt, and with some minor tweaking should look fantastic. Since photographs are deceiving, it is a rather good idea to ask her to photograph the sculpt on an actual body so that there are no "surprises." IMHO, the fact that Venkman is already for sale means that she's satisfied with the sculpt and the requested minor tweaking will be difficult to get from Ada.

Wonderful customer service. Imagine going into a shop and complaining about an item you bought that was faulty, and the manager saying, 'I'm sorry, but I'm satisfied with the item we sold you'.

Looking at her sculpts, they are all reasonably good, a few - the characters with craggy or angular features, eg Keith Richards and House - are exceptional. But the merely good ones could all do with a bit more. Yes, smooth features are hard to capture. But that's why we're paying her to do it to our satisfaction not to hers.

Surely she was in America long enough (seven years apparently) to understand that?

 

[William Shatners Toupee]

IMHO, the fact that Venkman is already for sale means that she's satisfied with the sculpt and the requested minor tweaking will be difficult to get from Ada.

I've never had ANY problems getting Ada to make changes for me, and she's never given me grief. I think some changes are to be expected. But then, I've never gone more than 2 or 3 approval stages in the process. We usually get it in two.

Did you have more?

 

[Jessica]

Maybe we were reading too much into her 2-worded responses. Some were unhappy with her minor tweak but we felt it would be an insult to ask her to revert to the original sculpt...so we never went beyond the second approval.

Let's just say we were shocked at the bobblehead we received from her and then her curt answers when we requested to get the sculpt to the appropriate 1:6 scale, and her refusal to photograph the last sculpt on an actual body to prove that it was the size we needed...only to learn from this thread that she requested additional funds from AngelofMusic2112 to fix a wrong she did.

 

[FlyAndFight]

Any chance of Ada picking up the "Ghostbusters" DVD and watching it? I think it would work better than sending her pics. She would be able to pick up little nuances on Murray's noggin as well as get into the whole feel of the characters. Just an idea.

 

[Cryoguns]

Any chance of Ada picking up the "Ghostbusters" DVD and watching it? I think it would work better than sending her pics. She would be able to pick up little nuances on Murray's noggin as well as get into the whole feel of the characters. Just an idea.

Not a bad idea, especially if she's going to sculpt Zeddemore and Stantz for us as well.

 

[William Shatners Toupee]

Maybe we were reading too much into her 2-worded responses. Some were unhappy with her minor tweak but we felt it would be an insult to ask her to revert to the original sculpt...so we never went beyond the second approval.

Let's just say we were shocked at the bobblehead we received from her and then her curt answers when we requested to get the sculpt to the appropriate 1:6 scale, and her refusal to photograph the last sculpt on an actual body to prove that it was the size we needed...only to learn from this thread that she requested additional funds from AngelofMusic2112 to fix a wrong she did.

Yeah, ALL I EVER get is two-worded responses from her no matter what the topic or answer! (laugh). If longer, they are still always curt. That's why I've had such a hard time getting a bead on how good her English is! We need to start our own secret council of "Ada commissioners" to keep tabs on her and trade Ada stories.

There is no question her avoiding to photograph something seems decietful.
We order a lot from her. Why wouldn't she bend over backwards to keep us happy? It may suck for her she made something too small, it happens, but its absolutely her job to correct it. You paid for a 1;6 scaled head, not a Mego scaled head (which her Milla is)

 

[CAZAFANTASMA]

Do you think she reads this forum? I don´t, even f she did, provably won´t understad half of what whe discuss
So, what if we start emailing her as customers, saying the Murray head she has on her site, looks ok but needs to work on the hair a litle . Maybe that would make her think and do it. Just a thought. i´m worried.

 

[William Shatners Toupee]

Do you think she reads this forum? I don´t, even f she did, provably won´t understad half of what whe discuss
So, what if we start emailing her as customers, saying the Murray head she has on her site, looks ok but needs to work on the hair a litle . Maybe that would make her think and do it. Just a thought. i´m worried.

Guys, she's doing the changes. They aren't a problem. They never are for the first few requests. She expects there will be some (from my commissions anyways. I always joke that she must dread them).

I do wonder if she reads the threads, actually. And Caza, you have had a great idea, but in a different context.

I complained about my Milla head in the revision E-mail I sent her, but you guys should A) write and tell her how wonderful her heads are, then B) complain about some of the undersized heads of hers you recieved, and how they went in the garbage unusable and how you feel cheated. Explain she has an obligation to make them correct first if she sells them at 1:6 or shes going to be losing a lot of business. Tell her how forum after forum are already ON FIRE with threads devoted to how bad some of her scaling is, post after post, and that you and they are talking about how you are afraid to continue to be her customer if she doesn't stand behind her work.

Power of the people, man. But be polite, not jerky!

 

[Jessica]

I gave Ada another chance. I wrote to her again. I guess I like to be kicked in the shins. Why do I not listen to myself? Obviously, we apes are the rabblerousers and have been spoiling her good name. So, my apologies, Ada, if you happen upon this thread. I will not say one more peep about the sculpts being off scale. Ada is a great artist. I retract any negative energy I have spewed forth, and I shall sit with Ironman8118, at the Bitter table. If anybody would care to join us, please do so at your own risk. I just submitted that photograph I posted earlier in this thread to Ada. It should speak for itself, but I have not heard her terse response yet. Perhaps in a few days.

 

[toyadventurer]

I think the bitter table is already full. I had a commission done by Ada and after a couple tweaks she basically told me to stick it. I ended up with a $230 head I tossed in a box of loose heads, never to be seen again. I continued to buy other heads but refuse to now because she always lists the heads as the correct scale in her pictures with her fake measuring line. I will pass on any heads she has for sale until she actually sells 1/6 heads or lists them at there true measurements.

 

[icruise]

Well, I'm frankly pretty glad that I didn't try to commission anything on my own through her. I just hope the projects that I've bought into work out OK. At least WST has some experience dealing with her. That's got got to be helpful.

 

[Captain Britain]

Well, I'm frankly pretty glad that I didn't try to commission anything on my own through her. I just hope the projects that I've bought into work out OK. At least WST has some experience dealing with her. That's got got to be helpful.

I've got faith in WST to sort out any problems.

 

[CAZAFANTASMA]

Yeah, in WST we trust

 

[Jessica]

The good thing is, Ada knows about Hydrospan and Hydroshrink, so if she really wanted to, she can get scaling correct...but will she make the time to do just that? To please her customers? The answer lies within Ada.

Also, I truly believe WST will sort out any problems.

 

[sladesuperagent]

So can we officially have the Ada Bashing a closed topic please? We all agree that she has communication issues and has had a few sizing issues in the past, but we all agree also that Rick will handle any problems we have from here on out. This b.s. is beginning to derail this thread and, frankly, it's bumming me out a little. We have awesome pack sculpts coming from Nick and, with a few tweaks, a pretty decent Venkman sculpt. So if all you monkey lovers could please take your seats at the bitter table and shut your pie holes, that would be appreciated on my part.

And let's remember too that we're all getting a pretty fair deal for this stuff--from both Ada and Nick. And for those who have lost hundreds--that sucks, but this a GB custom thread, not a bash the artist thread.

 

[Jessica]

Agreed! Let's move on and wait for the updates. With Rick at the helm, it will be a smooth ride for all.

My sincere apologies if I rained on your parade. This is a wonderful thread full of enthusiasm and plenty of talent.