Guardians of the Galaxy

Khev · Dec 16, 2014

On the contrary I disagree that we don't agree which is not unlike a double negative of a different sort.

twistedfreak · Dec 16, 2014

Khev said:
Those were just little bones that Whedon threw to fans of the other characters. The portal didn't really matter because Stark caused every Chitauri to drop dead, Cap was only leader because Stark gave him permission, etc. Stark was clearly the head/spokesman of the team. He was the first to engage the alien invasion and the one to save the day at the end. Hell the team even follows his restaurant advice. Avengers was very entertaining but it clearly was Stark's movie.

You can also add the scene at Stark Tower where TS and Loki have their little war chat. That scene seems to portray TS as the leader, at least to me it does.

Khev · Dec 16, 2014

twistedfreak said:
You can also add the scene at Stark Tower where TS and Loki have their little war chat. That scene seems to portray TS as the leader, at least to me it does.

Absolutely. To recap:

1. Iron Man ended the Stuttgart conflict by knocking Loki on his ass.
2. Iron Man saved the Helicarrier
3. Iron Man killed 90% of all alien invaders.

Cap couldn't even take out one piddly little fodder guy on the helicarrier until IM came and rescued him. :slap

Oh yeah, with regard to dialogue half of IM's lines were funny comments that made the audience laugh at one of the other team members.

Ish · Dec 16, 2014

Khev said:
Those were just little bones that Whedon threw to fans of the other characters. The portal didn't really matter because Stark caused every Chitauri to drop dead, Cap was only leader because Stark gave him permission, etc. Stark was clearly the head/spokesman of the team. He was the first to engage the alien invasion and the one to save the day at the end. Hell the team even follows his restaurant advice. Avengers was very entertaining but it clearly was Stark's movie.

Yes to some degree but the hulk leader or not stole that movie, at the time cap was the rookie character as far as the movies are concerned, ironman came first and was more successful or more liked than cap, now after winter soldier it has to be different, they're going to have to throw the cap character disgracefully under the rug to give the team to stark, I don't see any other way, not after ironman 3, but I have the feeling they're gonna do the right thing, I think ultron is going to be the stand out character of this film though.

Brainiac · Dec 16, 2014

Khev said:
Those were just little bones that Whedon threw to fans of the other characters. The portal didn't really matter because Stark caused every Chitauri to drop dead, Cap was only leader because Stark gave him permission, etc. Stark was clearly the head/spokesman of the team. He was the first to engage the alien invasion and the one to save the day at the end. Hell the team even follows his restaurant advice. Avengers was very entertaining but it clearly was Stark's movie.

The nuclear blast would have come through the portal if BW hadn't of closed it :wink1:

. Stark was also the cause of a lot of the teams problems before they put their differences aside to fight together. :dunno

Khev said:
Absolutely. To recap:

1. Iron Man ended the Stuttgart conflict by knocking Loki on his ass.
2. Iron Man saved the Helicarrier
3. Iron Man killed 90% of all alien invaders.

Cap couldn't even take out one piddly little fodder guy on the helicarrier until IM came and rescued him.
Oh yeah, with regard to dialogue half of IM's lines were funny comments that made the audience laugh at one of the other team members.

Only after Cap & BW showed up first to deal with Loki, and it was part of Loki's plan to get captured anyway
Agreed on the Helicarrier but Cap also used the Lever to free IM from the turbine that(after a few more seconds) would have shred him
This is arguable but I would have to watch it again and count the kills that are shown, but its irrelevant seen as he uses the nuke to kill most remaining Chitauri, which was probably a lot, but Hulk took down 2 Leviathans(1 with Thors help) and IM only took down 1 :pfft: