I thought that The Avengers was decent enough when it came out but with TFA and all the Russo flicks it just doesn't offer anything to set it apart *except* for Cap's stupid cowl, lol. And even with that in mind Spider-Man: Homecoming did a better job in at least playing it for laughs.
I cant defend the cowl that's for sure.. And Cap is the man in TWS, CW, and IW. I like him in FA but the film itself is just not a fav of mine.
I acknowledge that TA isn't a bad film per se but it is middle of the road in pretty much every single way (action, humor, visuals, tension, etc.)
Its weird how much we differ here. IMO TA has some of the best Humor (Hulk smash Loki, Hulk punch Thor, "No he likes his Hammer", "That guys playing Gallica", Action (Anything with Hulk, Iron Man vs Thor, The entire ending especially the long tracking shot) and the visuals still hold up (If you are talking visual FX). Banner is the best version of himself in this film also and the interaction between Tony and him is top notch.
Yes it lacks Tension but I would argue all Marvel movies do except for TWS and IW. CW has some at the end of the film.
Cap has IMO some other great moments Running and hurdling the cars in the street, the police taking his orders after he kicks *** and strikes a bad *** pose, Jumping up behind his shied before the bomb goes off, Taking on Loki, Allowing IM to use his shield to take out a few Aliens at once....
So strange that peeps can find him cool in AOU when he just fights robots and has one of the worst lines in the film after killing a drone mid sentence "What was that I didn't hear you"
Basically everything you said about TA is how I feel about AOU to a T.
I'm telling you Khev.. You are allowing the Caps Cowl to blind you
so it gives me little incentive to suffer through Cap's poor portrayal in look and deed. Yeah him giving out orders to the team was cool (even giving him Hulk's catch phrase) but I need more than a few cool seconds to make it worth my while.
Can I ask... What does AOU give you as far as cap goes. Other then a much better outfit? I do think his One on One with Ultron is one of the better scenes as a whole. He also nudges the Hammer.. THat is a great moment.. BUt it ends there.
I really don't see anything in AOU that makes it awful. Lots of cool action, an interesting villain played extremely well by Spader, a great introduction to the Vision, some nice bread crumbs leading into Civil War plus Wanda and Quicksilver. Sure it has a cheesy or eye-rolling moment hear and there but nothing worth writing it off over.
Again its so weird how we both see two very different movies with these two films. I don't see any cool action accept for Hulkbuster scene. There is something about fighting Drones that just takes the fun out of everything. The action is very often corny to me and is the most undramatic in the series...
The Villain Could have been great if it was the villain the trailers showed us and not the one liner jokester that we got in the final product.. Blah. Plus he has nothing on Loki
I never cared for Vision in these films... Like at all.. So I cant really judge that. Quicksilver was not all that interesting to me either (If he was I think I would care more about his death).
Also let’s not forget how bad the music was in AOU... especially when compared to The Anengers.
Anyways Khev.. I love our disagreements.. The Shallows, Avengers,
and most of all TLJ
If we can survive that we can survive anything
