Han and Luke as Stormtroopers - SDCC '09

[Matt S]

The way they went with these was perfect.. I assume those not happy with the lack of a swappable Stormie helmet are those that passed on the standard stormie? That is the only explanation that makes sense to me

 

[ProgMatinee]

There are all types of people.

I happened to pass on the regular stormy, but I still prefer the special helmets we are getting for these.

There are a few options SSC could have chose, but IMO they chose the one that would have been hardest for a collector to do themselves. So I appreciate that.

 

[Kuzeh]

I don't think people were hoping for swappable helmets in order to Army-build. It's simply a matter of having that one other option to display Han & Luke (especially Luke) in ST armour with their helmets on. You could do the scene with them escorting Chewie, etc.

Well, I for one wanted to used them as Troopers and use the heads to upgrade my ANH Luke and Han with TT bodies and all that...
Besides, since we'll never get Chewie from SS, what's the point?...
it's like the Chess table, no Chewie, no 3PO or R2...

 

[thenammagazine]

Well technically, YEAH, they should (and they often do). They are a business looking for customers after all and customers are cheap in general.

It was SSC anticipating and compensating for cheap people like me that made them choose only 1 of the helmets as opposed to charging more by providing both.

In this instance I prefer the helmets we are getting to regular helmets.

So they should then be in the business of loosing money? Because given that the Stormtroopers have yet to sell out, providing an alternative with Han and Luke would've ensured that they don't.

There are a few options SSC could have chose, but IMO they chose the one that would have been hardest for a collector to do themselves. So I appreciate that.

Actually, they were a sinch to make. The hardest part was knocking a half inch out of Luke's body which was really only as hard as undressing, removing a few screws and a mid section, replacing a barbell and then reassembling them.

 

[OSCORP]

Besides, since we'll never get Chewie from SS, what's the point?...
it's like the Chess table, no Chewie, no 3PO or R2...

Good point. If you care about chewie, i for one never really care if he comes as a figure ever. But i certainly would buy a figure of him, just because it would look awesome.

 

[bmarz1000]

Good point. If you care about chewie, i for one never really care if he comes as a figure ever. But i certainly would buy a figure of him, just because it would look awesome.

That Hasbro VOTC 15" Chewie ain't half bad. Just sayin'. Great "place-holder".

 

[Customikey]

I love the detailed accessory helmets. I just think it'd be cool to also have swappable helmets, perhaps with detail like Leia Boussh, where you can just see the bottoms of their heads and hair. That'd have been neat, but their absence is in no way a deal-breaker.

 

[ProgMatinee]

So they should then be in the business of loosing money? Because given that the Stormtroopers have yet to sell out, providing an alternative with Han and Luke would've ensured that they don't.



Actually, they were a sinch to make. The hardest part was knocking a half inch out of Luke's body which was really only as hard as undressing, removing a few screws and a mid section, replacing a barbell and then reassembling them.

No, they aren't in a business to lose money. They are in a business to market an affordable product so as to make money. Thats what I'm saying. Adding too much (such as 2 helmets + a head for each figure) creates a product that many people are unwilling to pay for. So they made a choice to satisfy money conscious, aka "cheap", people.

Also, I think more customizers could shorten a stormtrooper than accurately detail the inside of a helmet. That was my point. I appreciate SSC going with the best of the possible choices.

 

[thenammagazine]

No, they aren't in a business to lose money. They are in a business to market an affordable product so as to make money. Thats what I'm saying. Adding too much (such as 2 helmets + a head for each figure) creates a product that many people are unwilling to pay for. So they made a choice to satisfy money conscious, aka "cheap", people.

Also, I think more customizers could shorten a stormtrooper than accurately detail the inside of a helmet. That was my point. I appreciate SSC going with the best of the possible choices.

Absolutely (and I think we're saying the same thing here though), but to include wearable helmets for them would potentially have cost them sales of the regular Stormtroopers for those customers expecting to use them for the dual purpose of being Han & Luke in disguise as well as army builders. But this is likely irrelevant as we both think that this particular 2-pack will be more expensive than purchasing 2 Stormtroopers outright.

 

[galactiboy]

I think I'd actually rather have the accessory/prop helmets with the detailed interiors than have swappable ones. Seems a lot more thought went into the accessory helmets, swappable ones would've been easy.

I feel the same way... this is the better option and if you really needed to you can always buy loose ones. But I don't think it would be as easy to cobble together your own helmet with a detailed interior.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Absolutely (and I think we're saying the same thing here though), but to include wearable helmets for them would potentially have cost them sales of the regular Stormtroopers for those customers expecting to use them for the dual purpose of being Han & Luke in disguise as well as army builders. But this is likely irrelevant as we both think that this particular 2-pack will be more expensive than purchasing 2 Stormtroopers outright.

yep yep yep

 

[drod26]

Check this out fellows.. they are already selling them on ebay for $249.... crazy...
https://cgi.ebay.com/SDCC-2009-Star...5|66:2|65:12|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:1|294:50

 

[Dally]

So Sideshow should anticipate and compensate for people wanting to be cheap?

Yes, they should!

I would like wearable helmets to be included, but if it was one or the other I'm glad they gave us the helmets with the detailing inside.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

I think someone mentioned before that you could just stick a big foam ball on the neck post and place the detailed helmet on that! Seems like a very cheap and reasonable solution!

 

[DCFett]

Definitely would have liked the dual use of a functional helmet to add to my Imperial army should I see the need, and it would have been EXTREMELY cool if these offered an "all-n-one" approach ala some of the HT offerings. But, I gotta say, it certainly seems like the magic is back with SS on the SW line. We've been missing that "WOW" factor for some time, and this surely makes you say "wow, SS did that!?" Im a completist and have been unhappy with this line for a bit now, but this is really looks like what you'd expect in design and engineering from a company that helped put 1/6th figures on the map! Personally wanna thank those guys in Thousand Oaks for their great efforts here in offering something that hasnt been done, and that's what gives you the WOW factor. Hoping this trend continues from SS!

 

[Prime Clone]

But this is likely irrelevant as we both think that this particular 2-pack will be more expensive than purchasing 2 Stormtroopers outright.

Of course you'd never buy Luke & Han purely to use as Stormtroopers. But the fact that they could double as Stormtroopers would be more cost-effective than buying the standard Stormies as well.

 

[thenammagazine]

Of course you'd never buy Luke & Han purely to use as Stormtroopers. But the fact that they could double as Stormtroopers would be more cost-effective than buying the standard Stormies as well.

Cost effective for you, cost prohibitive for Sideshow. Again, offering that option would ensure that everyone, save army builders, would be passing on the regular Stormtroopers which are still in stock, to pick these guys up as replacements.

 

[drod26]

Cost effective for you, cost prohibitive for Sideshow. Again, offering that option would ensure that everyone, save army builders, would be passing on the regular Stormtroopers which are still in stock, to pick these guys up as replacements.

sometimes we expect alot to save a few dollars, but the reality is that we do what things we our on interest in mind and sideshow interest is to make money.. .

I dont think its a big deal if you cant put the helmet on but it sure would off been cool if we could.

 

[Darthrazz]

Just a quick though. I haven't read through the whole thread, but are we getting the long blaster rifle as well? Has anything been mentioned?

 

[Deeznutz6]

I dotn think the rifle is included, wasnt metioned in the podcast