shocktrooper_au
Super Freak
I think it's more about the inbreeding and relative murdering and down right cold bloodedness which is still around today
HBO's Game of Thrones
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Just watched it. *big exhale*........****in' hell.
Very disturbing piece of television.
Very disturbing piece of television.
I was surprised that the Stark mother actually went through with her threat to cut that girls throat - I wouldn't have, the situation was hopeless anyway and she was just another innocent
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Dr Daystrom
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Like her late husband, she had a rather rigid sense of honor, and she had just sworn to do so on the honor of both the Tullys and the Starks. Also as far as she knew, her last son had just been murdered in front of her.
rushmore223
Super Freak
I never said it didnt have fantasy elements, just that much of what he has written, especally the warring houses and the political maneuvering, is based on the historical record. If the fantasy elements ruin it for you, then I dont think you should bother watching.
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Not to mention she had pretty much lost her mind at that moment. I think that more than anything.
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Kamandi
Super Freak
I watched it again because I wasn't paying much attention for the first 20 minutes or so.
Such a cruel ending
Such a cruel ending
the effect maximised with the tender moments just before the massacre between Robb and his wife and the look the mother gave to them, finally approving of this marriage of love over any other consideration - especially in contrast to the story she had just heard from the Daniel Craig lookalike who ultimately killed Robb. The Starks have got to be the unluckiest family in all of Television, they've been spread to the winds and decimated over these 3 seasons.
Something Sexy
Super Freak
Season 3 Soundtrack is now available!
tomandshell
Blue Flame of the West/Mod
No, I love the fantasy elements. That's part of what makes it so successful. But some people are treating it like historical fiction, which it is not. Yes, he incorporates elements and incidents inspired by historical events, but this is a fantasy show.
Kamandi
Super Freak
Yes or No answer in spoiler tags please.
Will characters who deserve to die die in this show?
Will characters who deserve to die die in this show?
Grenouille
Super Freak
Dr Daystrom
Super Freak
Yes, that too.
Dr Daystrom
Super Freak
Some, but not all. At least not yet a far as the books have been written.
More detailed and spoilery (from the books obviously):
The perpetrators of the Red Wedding still haven't gotten what they deserved in the books. Joffery is getting it soon though! Woo!
tomandshell
Blue Flame of the West/Mod
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it."
(Unforgiven)
“Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."
(Fellowship of the Ring)
Invictus Sol
No Life in the Void
Robb Stark was likeable but he wasn't very interesting and had all the same flaws as Ned, if not more, so it makes sense to me that he had to go. Never really cared for Cat, either.
From my perspective, this is one of the best shows on television (so investment is high and I expect that will continue) because it's unpredictable but the choices made by the writers make sense. This is a show something like The Walking Dead tries to be, but can't because the writing's so atrocious and the characters so poorly fleshed out that no-one gives a **** when they die.
The ironic thing is Robb is a MINOR character in the books. The show made him a main character and so his death is much more powerful on the show when it was Cat's death in the book that was more meaningful (she was the POV character for this camp). The whole war with the Lannisters didn't seem as big of a deal in the books to me because of that. This story is much more than a war between the Starks and Lannisters and I don't think the show-only watchers haven't quite gotten that idea yet. So the Red Wedding is a real eye opener to say the least 
tomandshell
Blue Flame of the West/Mod
I agree that it is one of the best shows on television.
I just think there are some viewers who were really turned off by the events of last night. Good storytelling manipulates the reader/viewer just right and orchestrates events to alternately surprise, shock, intrigue and satisfy the audience. There needs to be just the right balance. We like to see a good payoff to a storyline we've been following. This was not the payoff some viewers wanted, and if a show goes too far in denying the audience what they want to see, the audience will revolt.
Last night pushed some people right up to the edge, and a few others went right over and are having an emotional response of hatred towards the show and author. They feel abused and betrayed and think the show broke the promise of a happy ending that realistically wasn't there to begin with. We allow ourselves to be emotionally manipulated by a story with the implicit understanding that the storyteller will give us a satisfying and happy ending. We expect it to be a safe and ultimately predictable experience. (We like twists and turns along the way, but in the end the guy needs to get the girl and the good guy always wins.) It turns out GoT isn't that kind of story--and you could certainly argue that viewers should have figured that out by now.
I just think there are some viewers who were really turned off by the events of last night. Good storytelling manipulates the reader/viewer just right and orchestrates events to alternately surprise, shock, intrigue and satisfy the audience. There needs to be just the right balance. We like to see a good payoff to a storyline we've been following. This was not the payoff some viewers wanted, and if a show goes too far in denying the audience what they want to see, the audience will revolt.
Last night pushed some people right up to the edge, and a few others went right over and are having an emotional response of hatred towards the show and author. They feel abused and betrayed and think the show broke the promise of a happy ending that realistically wasn't there to begin with. We allow ourselves to be emotionally manipulated by a story with the implicit understanding that the storyteller will give us a satisfying and happy ending. We expect it to be a safe and ultimately predictable experience. (We like twists and turns along the way, but in the end the guy needs to get the girl and the good guy always wins.) It turns out GoT isn't that kind of story--and you could certainly argue that viewers should have figured that out by now.
More than anything, I want to feel something when I watch a show, read a novel, etc. and feel something for the characters and be on the edge of my seat with the plotting. Last night's episode did that in spades. I am still reeling today.
I'm sure he lost some viewers last night but will gain many more as he did with readers when the book came out. This has certainly got people talking and feeling. Pretty sure that's a win. There's obviously a lot more story to tell.
I'm sure he lost some viewers last night but will gain many more as he did with readers when the book came out. This has certainly got people talking and feeling. Pretty sure that's a win. There's obviously a lot more story to tell.
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