HBO's Game of Thrones

[TheFiend]

^ Interesting theory. Kinda lame though.

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[Giant Chicken]

The main concern is what they do with books 4 and 5, there's a ton of stuff in there that's not interesting so it's possible they could lose some of the audience if they don't do well with it.

For me, I think it would be just fine if they combined books 4 and 5 and made one season. I think it would be a terrific experience.

Unfortunately, the show needs to buy more time for the final books to be released. I am thinking they will need to get 2 seasons out of the books 4/5 combo. This will really slow the story down if they go that route though.

As much as I love GoT I think they should wait atleast a year and a half between seasons to buy more time. The Sopranos would take 1 1/2 - 2 years off sometimes. The audience always came back.

 

[darthviper107]

They can't wait, the kids are aging too fast. Sansa already doesn't look like a 15 year old

 

[TheFiend]

They can't wait, the kids are aging too fast. Sansa already doesn't look like a 15 year old

You talk about Sansa ? Bran is humongous.

Even Arya is looking much older.

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[Serpentor]

The producers of the show have said taking a break between seasons is not an option because of the kids. They have also recently said the plan is 7 seasons, Martin estimated maybe 3 years from 2011 to finish Winds of Winter, so there is a chance maybe a slim one that he could finish just before the TV show ends. Though the best bet would be that the show will conclude before he finishes the books.

 

[darthviper107]

I think it'd be interesting if the story jumped ahead like 10 years. Like maybe with the last book. Then you could deal with the aging thing and it would give an opportunity for some crazy stuff, like the dragons getting to full size.

 

[TheFiend]

Did anyone else think the blood noises and spraying from the slit throats were a bit much? If it wasn't for the great acting and emotionally charged subject matter I would have thought it was comical.

And you wouldn't die immediately either.

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[DPrime]

I knew it was coming (from the books) and it was still shocking. Literally, I felt like was in shock!

Can't wait for the next episode.

If it wasn't for the great acting and emotionally charged subject matter I would have thought it was comical.

Can't you say that about anything? If it worked, it worked.

 

[DinoDB1975]

Some reactions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78juOpTM3tE&feature=youtu.be

 

[DarthDiggler]

The ironic thing is Robb is a MINOR character in the books. The show made him a main character and so his death is much more powerful on the show when it was Cat's death in the book that was more meaningful (she was the POV character for this camp). The whole war with the Lannisters didn't seem as big of a deal in the books to me because of that. This story is much more than a war between the Starks and Lannisters and I don't think the show-only watchers haven't quite gotten that idea yet. So the Red Wedding is a real eye opener to say the least

Well said.

Spoiler

One more major usurper to go now.

I'm pleased that the show can now move forward to the events of the more recent books without being so Lannister-Stark war oriented. They certainly depicted a lot of Robb Stark stuff the last 3 seasons. So much more going on with characters in such a sprawling narrative that will prove to be far more significant.

I think the "Red Wedding" was a great way to present the Boltons/Freys to the show-only audience as to how truly despicable they are as families.

 

[316what]

I agree that it is one of the best shows on television.

I just think there are some viewers who were really turned off by the events of last night. Good storytelling manipulates the reader/viewer just right and orchestrates events to alternately surprise, shock, intrigue and satisfy the audience. There needs to be just the right balance. We like to see a good payoff to a storyline we've been following. This was not the payoff some viewers wanted, and if a show goes too far in denying the audience what they want to see, the audience will revolt.

Last night pushed some people right up to the edge, and a few others went right over and are having an emotional response of hatred towards the show and author. They feel abused and betrayed and think the show broke the promise of a happy ending that realistically wasn't there to begin with. We allow ourselves to be emotionally manipulated by a story with the implicit understanding that the storyteller will give us a satisfying and happy ending. We expect it to be a safe and ultimately predictable experience. (We like twists and turns along the way, but in the end the guy needs to get the girl and the good guy always wins.) It turns out GoT isn't that kind of story--and you could certainly argue that viewers should have figured that out by now.

This may not have been the payoff the sheeples wanted, but it was the correct payoff for Robb breaking his vow of marriage to one of Frey's daughters.

I loved the look Frey gave Robb when his daughter removed her veil....it was a sneaky "this is what you really could have had" type of look.

 

[Buttmunch]

This may not have been the payoff the sheeples wanted, but it was the correct payoff for Robb breaking his vow of marriage to one of Frey's daughters.

I loved the look Frey gave Robb when his daughter removed her veil....it was a sneaky "this is what you really could have had" type of look.

Yeah, that was great. It was like "Did you really think I would have dumped one of the ugly ones on you?"

 

[galactiboy]

That is pretty funny that some people would react so negatively that they'd want to stop watching. I was shocked last night, but it just made me want to see more

Hands down my favorite show at the moment

 

[pixletwin]

I watched the latest episode last night with the wife and I think she is done with Game of Thrones.

 

[EVILFACE]

This may not have been the payoff the sheeples wanted, but it was the correct payoff for Robb breaking his vow of marriage to one of Frey's daughters.

I loved the look Frey gave Robb when his daughter removed her veil....it was a sneaky "this is what you really could have had" type of look.

Well Rob never did see them.....

 

[DarthDiggler]

That is pretty funny that some people would react so negatively that they'd want to stop watching. I was shocked last night, but it just made me want to see more

I think the show played up Robb Stark's war so much that this was bound to happen. Especially when Ned was so righteous and lost his head for his troubles. A majority of people want to see justice in an idealized way in their fiction.

I think it will start to sink-in to most that in the world of GOT, things generally don't work out for most characters, at least, not in the way they or the consumer might always like. It's almost always bittersweet at best.

And for some characters, well, it will usually end badly.

 

[pixletwin]

Robb was killed, not because of his honor, but his lack of honor. The kingly thing to do would have been to honor his agreement with the Fey's about marrying one of their daughters. Of all the Stark children, he was the least Stark-like.

 

[DarthDiggler]

Robb was killed, not because of his honor, but his lack of honor. The kingly thing to do would have been to honor his agreement with the Fey's about marrying one of their daughters. Of all the Stark children, he was the least Stark-like.

Not to mention his lack of support for the one true, rightful King of Westeros.

 

[denger4000]

He didn't, but it's well Know, that Frey has ugly daughters and granddaughters.

 

[lerath666]

She is chaotic-good.

Disagree completely.

She is Lawful Evil.

But it's an easy mistake to make. Most people do not get the complex dichoatmy that is the dungeons and dragons alignment system, and get hung up on what they understand the terms "good" and "evil", as well as "chaos" and "law" to truely mean.

Allow me to explan.

In the way the ideals are set, the concept of "good" and "evil " in terms of the alighment system, put as SIMPLY as I can work as follows.

Being Good simply means you put the welfare, wants, and needs of others before yourself. You seek self-improvement, but will only do so it if means the world as a whole is better for it, and you will not step on others, setting aside your own goals if they conflict with the betterment of the world. At their core, they tend to seek "enlightment", or "peace" over power for power's sake.

Being Evil simply means you put your own welfare, wants, and needs before those of everyone else. YOur every action is taken for the sole purpose of fuilling some personal goal, or vendetta, Regardless of what you must do to see it done. But at their core, they seek power. they might wrap their quest for power up in altruistic beliefs, but in the end, it's power they want, for whatever reason ( Revenge, it's rightfully mine, I'm tired of being opressed, whatever)

It's worth noting that a Good character can commit evil acts, if it is in the best intrests of the world, and the people in it.
Just as it is possible for an Evil character to commit good acts, if it furthers their overall goal.

Being Lawful simply means that the character in question believes in order, and likely has some semblence of a code they adhere to. possibly a code of honor, Even if it is a dark one.

Being Chaotic, on the other hand believe that the only true freedom is the lack of structure or laws. Anarchy, etc.

You don't REALLY get fun untill you hit Chaotic-Neutral.
A character for whom unpredictablity is the norm, who follows their whimsey with a devil may care mentalityt and does what they want, when they want.

Like Jack Sparrow. PERFECT example of Chaotic Neutral. But I'm getting off-topic.

Daneiries Targarian, is Lawful Evil.
At least for now. That MIGHT change.


Also, to those of you screaming about how nothing bad ever happens to the antagonists, I have but this to say.


Just... keep watching.




As for will we ever see the Mad king? WE already have. His name is Joffery now.

speaking of joffery... here is a spoiler in the form of a quote.

Spoiler

'Brienne: Joffrey was your...
Jaime: My king. Leave it at that.
Brienne: You say Sansa killed him. Why protect her?
Jaime: Because Joff was no more to me than a squirt of seed in Cersei's ****. And because he deserved to die.
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