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[Sidewinder]

Why Tyrion as a rider? I understand Jon if he's a Targaryen as well, but Tyrion has no ties to the Targaryen's.


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[SwedishHeat]

Why Tyrion as a rider? I understand Jon if he's a Targaryen as well, but Tyrion has no ties to the Targaryen's.

It's theorized that Tyrion is not Tywin's son.

You can google it if you want, but to me, as a layman, it seems the flimsiest of theories. People are stuck in this "three heads of the dragon" thing, and because Dany, Jon and Tyrion are the longest running, most prominent characters, and there's already a strong theory that Jon has Targaryen, so it just stands to reason that Tyrion is the third, so people are looking for evidence of that.

 

[Sidewinder]

It's theorized that Tyrion is not Tywin's son.

You can google it if you want, but to me, as a layman, it seems the flimsiest of theories. People are stuck in this "three heads of the dragon" thing, and because Dany, Jon and Tyrion are the longest running, most prominent characters, and there's already a strong theory that Jon has Targaryen, so it just stands to reason that Tyrion is the third, so people are looking for evidence of that.

Ah okay. I never really heard any of those theories. I guess it could be possible considering Tywin could never know for sure whether Tyrion was his son, he just had to accept him since his wife was pregnant with him.
I'm not too fond of the theory though. I'd prefer he remained a Lannister.


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[quadcent]

I like the idea of them burning Jon only for him to walk out of the flames, that sure would say a good **** you to the traitors who killed him....

 

[XDUCKETTX]

Any theories out there that Bran will warg into a dragon before dying in some way?

 

[Invictus Sol]

His initial reaction didn't exactly move me to tears. On the extras segment, the producers were talking more about how Cersei was going to respond than Jaimie.

Yeah, for sure. Was just wondering if it'd bring back some of the 'old Jaimie' you guys seem to be missing, though since he'll never regain his mastery with a sword (I'm assuming), he's kind of limited now.

Nothing new to say about Kit Snow, but this is confirmation about other character fates from the finale since the cutaways and editing really liked to be ambigious.

Spoiler

-Stannis is definitely dead. They thought it'd be gratuitous to show Brienne decapitating him. He had nothing else to live for anyways.

-Myrcella is also dead. This might not actually lead to war with Dorne since Cersei blames Tyrion for sending her away in the first place.

-Trystane gets to be stuck in the lion's den since that boat will still be sailing to King's Landing.

-Sansa and Theon survive that suicidal looking jump.

Game of Thrones Characters Who Are Definitely Dead | Vanity Fair

Dang, good to know. Kind of funny that after Trant's horrific killing anything could be considered gratuitous, though.

 

[NAZGUL-KING]

At least Jon will be free from his vows when he comes back.

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, for sure. Was just wondering if it'd bring back some of the 'old Jaimie' you guys seem to be missing, though since he'll never regain his mastery with a sword (I'm assuming), he's kind of limited now.

At least from my POV, it's not that I miss the older Jaimie, so much as the fact that his character's progression doesn't feel believable to me. But. . .the old Jaimie was a bit more interesting!

 

[Invictus Sol]

Yeah, he is what hooked me into the show, initially. I was not expecting him to push Bran out the window when Bran discovered him and Cersei in the tower. That clued me in right away that the show was different.

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, I was rewatching it and had a similar feeling. Prior to that, you have the Stark family, all smiles and good feelings for the most part. The Lannisters show up at Winterfel, and they don't get along, but as far as the viewer knows this could be sitcom-level conflict between Carl Winslow and Urkel or whatever. Sansa blushes when Joffrey looks her way, Arya's a little scamp, Jon is made fun of because of his hair, etc. Then things get real.

 

[devilof76]

At least from my POV, it's not that I miss the older Jaimie, so much as the fact that his character's progression doesn't feel believable to me. But. . .the old Jaimie was a bit more interesting!

I don't actually see how he's changed. He hasn't murdered anyone in cold blood for a bit, but I haven't seen him do anything that would indicate that he wouldn't if they were in his way. He's always been charming, and while he may come across as softer than he was, there are reasons for that. Losing his ability as a warrior opened him to being vulnerable with Brienne, but all he really did there was whine about being persecuted as Kingslayer when he saved everyone from the Mad King. He was still sitting on the Throne when Ned Stark walked in. He saved Tyrion, but their brotherhood has been a strong relationship throughout the show. He saved Myrcella, but she's his daughter. His increased likeability is superficial. Beneath the surface, he's still capable of whatever treachery will serve his interests, and I'm guessing Myrcella's death will bring that out.

He hasn't become a sympathetic character. He's just become comfortable.

 

[gothamcityboy]

i never read the book A song of ice and fire, how far the season based from the book ? is season 5 nearly cover all the dance with dragons book ?

 

[fosing]

Good point. There were also the two Night's Watchmen that tried to rape Gilly, and nearly beat Sam to death when he intervened.

They're a disgruntled bunch that need to be kept on a tight leash. With neither Sam or Jon around anymore, I hope that the entire Night's Watch becomes fodder for the White Walkers. They deserve nothing less.

the night's watch now is like the french foreign legion comprising of frenchmen.
kidding.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

i never read the book A song of ice and fire, how far the season based from the book ? is season 5 nearly cover all the dance with dragons book ?

Season 5 is the fourth book Feast for Crows

 

[GasparZizou]

Funny how such great writing and onebevent can make a person completely change their mind about a character. I totally loved how they gave cersi a piece of her own medicine, then after that walk of shame and how the sparrows have become to big for their own good, now I want her to rise back up and kick their *****..

I know right? I want her to get her revenge, BUT when that's done, I want her to get what's coming to her

 

[Invictus Sol]

I still have no sympathy for Cersei. I couldn't believe how trusting the High Sparrow was to let her go back to the Red Keep at all, knowing her son is the king and her wretched reputation. If they'd had their druthers, they'd have made her do the walk, then run her through a step away from the Keep's threshold.

Still, now that her ploy worked, I am looking forward to the havoc she'll create and besides the Faith Militant does need to pay for smashing all those nice kegs of red wine into the gutter a few episodes back. There was no call for that.

Seriously, though, not sure how much revenge she can get immediately. The High Sparrow has the support of the people, so may not be as easy as sending in the troops with zombie Mountain to crush them all. Will be interesting to see how it plays out next season. Hoping Martin's sixth book comes out early 2016 and then I can spoil myself before the show starts up again in March/April.

 

[Frank Jaeger]

Comeuppance is a *****

 

[karamazov80]

I don't actually see how he's changed. He hasn't murdered anyone in cold blood for a bit, but I haven't seen him do anything that would indicate that he wouldn't if they were in his way. He's always been charming, and while he may come across as softer than he was, there are reasons for that. Losing his ability as a warrior opened him to being vulnerable with Brienne, but all he really did there was whine about being persecuted as Kingslayer when he saved everyone from the Mad King. He was still sitting on the Throne when Ned Stark walked in. He saved Tyrion, but their brotherhood has been a strong relationship throughout the show. He saved Myrcella, but she's his daughter. His increased likeability is superficial. Beneath the surface, he's still capable of whatever treachery will serve his interests, and I'm guessing Myrcella's death will bring that out.

He hasn't become a sympathetic character. He's just become comfortable.

Nothing he's done in the last couple of seasons harkens back to the old Jaimie in any substantial way. You could be right, but there's nothing on the show to suggest it. To the audience, he has become tame/neutered.

 

[Sidewinder]

Season 5 is the fourth book Feast for Crows

Season 5 also has parts of a Dance with Dragons as well. Jon's story of going to save the Wildlings at Hardhome and his men turning on him happened in the 5th book.


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[abake]

I still have no sympathy for Cersei. I couldn't believe how trusting the High Sparrow was to let her go back to the Red Keep at all, knowing her son is the king and her wretched reputation. If they'd had their druthers, they'd have made her do the walk, then run her through a step away from the Keep's threshold.

Still, now that her ploy worked, I am looking forward to the havoc she'll create and besides the Faith Militant does need to pay for smashing all those nice kegs of red wine into the gutter a few episodes back. There was no call for that.

Seriously, though, not sure how much revenge she can get immediately. The High Sparrow has the support of the people, so may not be as easy as sending in the troops with zombie Mountain to crush them all. Will be interesting to see how it plays out next season. Hoping Martin's sixth book comes out early 2016 and then I can spoil myself before the show starts up again in March/April.

You Sir, deserve some reputation for that reference!

Nothing he's done in the last couple of seasons harkens back to the old Jaimie in any substantial way. You could be right, but there's nothing on the show to suggest it. To the audience, he has become tame/neutered.

I was thinking about that, and well, there's that one time he rapes Cersei on top of their sons coffin...