My thoughts were exactly the opposite, the Sand Snakes and Ellaria were an annoying group of hypocrites IMO. They had no real reason to start a war, since Oberyn was killed legally in trial by combat. Doran was far more reasonable and likeable to me, even if his screentime was short.
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My thoughts were exactly the opposite, the Sand Snakes and Ellaria were an annoying group of hypocrites IMO. They had no real reason to start a war, since Oberyn was killed legally in trial by combat. Doran was far more reasonable and likeable to me, even if his screentime was short.
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Agreed, Oberyn was a bad-ass, but got cocky and paid for it. When I originally heard about the Sand Snakes before this season, the concept sounded cool, but I didn't understand the point. Oberyn was killed fair and square, there still isn't any justice for Ellia and her children, but I think the point of trial by combat is that Oberyn was fighting for that justice in the eyes of the gods, and they denied him. So, I think that matter is settled. But the Sand Snakes weren't fighting for Ellia and the children, they wanted vengeance for Oberyn, which is completely missing the point.
But I was pleased to see that Doran was a level-headed dude. Cersei will probably want to start a war, and Doran will likely be more than happy to hand over Ellaria to satisfy Cersei's bloodlust. There will probably be some plot twist though to make that not so easy.
I was thinking the same thing. Ellaria and the Sand Snakes have an irrational hatred. Oberyn wasn't killed because the Lannisters wanted him dead. He wasn't manipulated into doing what he did. He took on that role purely to get revenge on the Mountain, and got killed by the Mountain. I would like to see Ellaria better explain her motivations at some point. Maybe there is some other rationale we aren't privy to.
Another baffling decision IMO is Bashir sending his own son to King's Landing, even if he suspected that it would start on good terms. I'm beginning to think the Dornish people just don't think things through very well.
Problem is that it's the Dorne king's son who is being sent to King's Landing. If Cersei kills him (and I suspect she will), then any concerns about Ellaria fade, and Dr. Bashir will only want revenge on Cercei et al.
Another baffling decision IMO is Bashir sending his own son to King's Landing, even if he suspected that it would start on good terms. I'm beginning to think the Dornish people just don't think things through very well.
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Another baffling decision IMO is Bashir sending his own son to King's Landing, even if he suspected that it would start on good terms. I'm beginning to think the Dornish people just don't think things through very well.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this theory...lol
I agree with this theory...lol
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Hmm, but even Oberyn seemed flattered when Tywin invited him to sit on the Small Council (despite loathing the Lannisters). If things had gone according to plan, it seemed like a good deal. As long as Mrycella was safe, then presumably Doran/Dorne would be in a newly influential and respected position in the kingdom.
Will be interesting to see what becomes of Trystane. I read somewhere that Cercei is more likely to blame Tyrion for sending Mrycella off in the first place, rather than Ellaria/Doran (though, yes, that is rather convoluted... but then her hatred of Tyrion is boundless...), so perhaps she won't kill Trystane but rather keep him as a hostage. Ugh, long wait to find out!
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I think/hope that Jamie will be able to convince Cersei of the truth that Ellaria was acting alone and will be able to prevent Tristane's execution. If anything Cersei will hold Tristane hostage in exchange for Ellaria. I think Cersei will have her hands full dealing with the Faith Militant.
Hopefully Jamie won't be too broken up about it, and will be able to have his wits together when he reaches King's Landing. I know you're not a big fan of the guy, but I think he's allright. . . actually he's all left but I digress. haha, I couldn't resist.
LOL . . .
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He didn't rape her. Christ.
I'm with you. I was honestly surprised about the reaction of the audience as if someone had tarnished the virtue of some Goddess of purity, she is the mother of madness for crying out loud! I'm by no means endorsing this "potential" despicable action IRL but it's a show after all, for me it was a way to remind us of how twisted the Lannisters truly are, I'm sure she was more worried of getting caught by someone in the act than of the act itself.
There are far worse visual examples on contemporary TV like ALL seasons of Spartacus, specially the second season in a scene with Lucy Lawless and the last season where no one other than Julius Caesar falls victim of this.
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One aspect of Jaime Lannister's turn/change in character that hasn't been mentioned on here, but was in the book, was his concern over his reputation. There was much made in the book when he returned to Kings Landing about this. Jaime was looking through the book of deeds of all the previous Captains of the Kingsguard and was bothered that he had nothing worthwhile that could be included in those pages. Even though it was a deed that had a good result, killing the Mad King, who's safety was entrusted to him was not something looked upon favorably, it was a act of dishonor, regardless of the good that came of it. He feels ashamed that his life as a knight has been relatively free of acclaim. He's more infamous than anything else.
Oh yeah, and Jon is Dead, but he'll be back, I feel as sure of this as I have felt about anything on this show.
Oh yeah, and Jon is Dead, but he'll be back, I feel as sure of this as I have felt about anything on this show.
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yeah totally forgot about that moment when he was reading the book, I guess it's easy to forget something like that when there's people getting killed every other episode....lol.
there's a thing I read on the net about jon's eyes changing color or something like that, meaning his spirit went to his wolf possibly to be brought back at a later date....who knows, but either way I'm thinking they have to bring him back since they have no one good left in the north to lead anyone now or has a clue of what they're about to face with the white walkers.
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What will happen to Sersei now she has been let out of captivity? Is she not still meant to attend a trial? Will this be reinforced?
I must admit to laughing when that guy in the crowd leant over to her on the walk of shame and shouted "C***!"
I must admit to laughing when that guy in the crowd leant over to her on the walk of shame and shouted "C***!"
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The High Sparrow only knew (for certain) about Lancel and Cersei, which she confessed to, so there's nothing else to put her on trial for.
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no she will be put on trial for the other rumors. she was just allowed to return to look after her son Tommel.
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Kit Harington was seen at Wimbledon with Jon Snow-length hair. 
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He should go out in a bald cap just to troll people.
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