Heroes- Now with spoilers!

[DarthNeil]

I would much rather imagine candice as she appears on the show. **hubba, hubba** If you want to see more of her, go check out STICK IT.

THANK YOU!

I was wracking my brain trying to figure out where I saw her before...

 

[tomandshell]

I just ordered the first season on HD DVD, due out in August. I only saw the first few episodes of this show when it first aired. Now I can get all caught up in time for season two.

 

[Darth Caedus]

THANK YOU!

I was wracking my brain trying to figure out where I saw her before...

Yea, a friend of a friend was in the movie, and I got to meet her. Holy bejebus was she gorgeous.

I just ordered the first season on HD DVD, due out in August. I only saw the first few episodes of this show when it first aired. Now I can get all caught up in time for season two.

I'm sure you'll love it. It's a mixture of X-Men mixed in with Lost; but you know Heroes actually answers questions instead of asking more.

 

[gdb]

I'm sure you'll love it. It's a mixture of X-Men mixed in with Lost; but you know Heroes actually answers questions instead of asking more.

I'ts a Lost clone by a guy who hates comic books best known for his show Crossing Jordan.

 

[tomandshell]

Sounds like a "quick fix" approach that caters to impatient viewers.

I actually think that Lost has the perfect rhythm and balance of questions/answers/revelations/new mysteries. We have received plenty of answers this season and they have done more than enough to keep me watching and wondering. Part of the fun of the show is how we are forced to be patient, and how the answers we want often lead to even bigger questions. I really like it--and if they made the show less mysterious or felt like they had to answer all our questions within a week or two, I think the show would be much weaker in the long run. I am interested in watching Heroes, but if they answer all our questions too quickly (as I have heard), then I wonder about the long term draw. I like it when it takes years for some questions to be answered--I hung in there with the X-Files for almost a decade. The fact that the writers and producers of Lost have a definite end in sight means that they can carefully plan it out and write/plot accordingly. By the end of the sixth season we will have all the answers and the story will be complete, and I much prefer the long term storytelling approach to the idea that we have to have all our questions answered immediately or we will stop watching out of frustration.

 

[gdb]

Sounds like a "quick fix" approach that caters to impatient viewers.

I know what you mean, Tom. For Heroes, in their quest to come up with answers and then give more questions it's developed a feeling like they're making it all up as they go along. The part of the season after the hiatus has reminded me of the second season of Twin Peaks. -- the season after they resolved who killed Laura Palmer.

(SPOILER:














It was her dad.)

 

[Vader AL]

heroes doesn't use a "quick fix"...it just gives something each episode. and it doesn't feel like they are making stuff up. to say that heroes is a clone of lost means that lost created this type of show...which it didn't. lost could have and should have finished it's run years ago.

 

[Batty]

I actually think that Lost has the perfect rhythm and balance of questions/answers/revelations/new mysteries.

Hmm, you didn't seem to think so earlier in the season.

I love both shows. I think Lost is like a mystery novel...it moves at its own pace while slowly revealing itself. Heroes is more like a comic book. It's more immediate, but still able to continue and expand with the next "issue". Either way I find both shows to be great at what they do.

 

[Agent0028]

I agree with Batty's assessment, to me Lost is one big story arc with little subplots throughout. Heroes on the other hand has one story arc for this seasons and presumably a different one for the following seasons. I've actually felt on several occasions that Lost is making things up as it goes along. And my major complaint about Lost is that alot of time stuff seems like filler. To go along with the mystery analogy at times Lost feels like taking a Agatha Christie novel and stretching it out to Tom Clancy length. For me Lost takes so long to reveal things that in all honesty I forget things that have happeend in previous episodes. If it weren't for the lost thread on this board keeping me up to date and making little connections I miss I would prolly have stopped watching it by now.

And I don't think Heroes is a Lost clone at all considering that they don't have much in common except maybe some of the mysterious aspects and even there I would say those are very different. The pacing, storytelling, storylines, characters, and setting is all very different for Lost. Now if every episode had a flashback from characters lives I would say it was a Lost clone through and through, but I don't really see that they have that much in common. But maybe I'm just missing it.

 

[gdb]

An ensemble cast of strangers forced to work together, where different characters come to the fore each week; each episode ends with a cliff hanger; each episode introduces anther character and/or redefines a character; characters' pasts revealed to be increasingly intertwined; characters are driven by a sense of danger and are immersed in a strange world where the laws of the world they knew no longer apply; etc; etc.

There were a bunch of Lost clones this season. Jericho, the one about the poeple at the bank, couple others I think. From what I understand Heroes is the best of the bunch, it's certainly the most successful and it's the only one I watch.

Hollywood makes clones of successful shows all the time. Nothing wrong with being clone. It's how things evolve.

I love both shows. I think Lost is like a mystery novel...it moves at its own pace while slowly revealing itself. Heroes is more like a comic book. It's more immediate, but still able to continue and expand with the next "issue". Either way I find both shows to be great at what they do.

That they are.

 

[Agent0028]

An ensemble cast of strangers forced to work together, where different characters come to the fore each week; each episode ends with a cliff hanger; each episode introduces anther character and/or redefines a character; characters' pasts revealed to be increasingly intertwined; characters are driven by a sense of danger and are immersed in a strange world where the laws of the world they knew no longer apply; etc; etc.

Yeah, that's true, I see what you're saying now.

 

[Darth Loki]

All I'm gonna say is

 

[Agent0028]

I'll second that! I'm 100% satisfied. It's gonna be a loooong summer.

 

[Memnoch]

Totally agree. And how about "Call me Noah." Words cannot describe how well the finale was. And the cliffhanger for Volume 2... oh man is it fall yet? Do we even have a comfirmed start date for Volume 2? With all this attention on comic books and things like Transformers it's like living in the 80's again ... only without the bad fashion and hair .

 

[Batty]

Great episode! A lot of answers and more questions.

There's someone worse than Sylar?

Nice little Evil Dead 2 ending to the show! I'm convinced that Kensei is Hiro's father.

And I really got a Luke/Yoda vibe at the beginning of the show when Hiro and his father were talking about finishing his training versus going to help Ando.

 

[tomandshell]

The DVD release is going to include the original 73 minute pilot that was screened at Comic Con. One of the reasons that I didn't stick with the show at first was that the changes that were made really threw me off when it premiered. I am looking forward to starting over again and watching all of season one straight through on (HD) DVD this fall.

 

[praxitas]

Just got done watching the finale on NBC.com and all i have to say is... WOW!!

Great episode and ending. I really liked both of the Petrelli's characters, so it was ashame to see their ending (i'm guessing.) Looking forward to the second season. Here's to a fast summer!!

 

[DarthNeil]

Didn't Peter have Nathan's power already? Couldn't he have just flown himself away instead of having Nathan do it for him? Or was he unable to use his power of flight due to an overload of Ted's radioactive power?

I enjoyed the finale. Imagine, show ending a season with a definite conclusion and yet still making us look forward to next season with a resounding original "cliffhanger".

The Doc was on Regis & Kelly yesterday (yeah Canadian holiday-Victoria Day!) and he said that they're planning on filming 30 episodes for the second season----- as the first had only 23 (correct?) that means only good things for us.

I missed what happened to the cop (channel surfing to Sith on the dish during the commercial) who hurt him--- Sylar?

Was Sylar truly dead? Was it the other "evil" that dragged his lifeless body into the sewer to "absorn" his powers or to "reanimate" him?

Glad that Hiro will start Volume II (so much nicer than saying season don't ya think?).

 

[The ill Jedi]

Didn't Peter have Nathan's power already? Couldn't he have just flown himself away instead of having Nathan do it for him? Or was he unable to use his power of flight due to an overload of Ted's radioactive power?

That's exactly what I was thinking and telling wife, "why doesn't this jerk just fly himself away?". But your probably right, Ted's power was probably inhibiting the flying ability.

I was kinda dissapointed with the Peter Vs. Sylar fight, but I was happy to see Hiro fulfill his destiny. A little to much going on at the end, but otherwise a great episode. I did get the 'Evil Dead' 'Army of Darkness' vibe with Hiro being teleported back in time, right smack in the middle of a Samurai battle. 'Volume Two' is gonna be BAD ASS!!

 

[Memnoch]

Didn't Peter have Nathan's power already? Couldn't he have just flown himself away instead of having Nathan do it for him? Or was he unable to use his power of flight due to an overload of Ted's radioactive power?

I enjoyed the finale. Imagine, show ending a season with a definite conclusion and yet still making us look forward to next season with a resounding original "cliffhanger".

The Doc was on Regis & Kelly yesterday (yeah Canadian holiday-Victoria Day!) and he said that they're planning on filming 30 episodes for the second season----- as the first had only 23 (correct?) that means only good things for us.

I missed what happened to the cop (channel surfing to Sith on the dish during the commercial) who hurt him--- Sylar?

Was Sylar truly dead? Was it the other "evil" that dragged his lifeless body into the sewer to "absorn" his powers or to "reanimate" him?

Glad that Hiro will start Volume II (so much nicer than saying season don't ya think?).

The 30 episodes include the six for Heroes : Origins. Yea, Matt unloaded a few at Sylar who stopped them and sent them back into his body. A very 'my god!' moment. As for if Sylar is dead, never say never. This IS a comic book show after all. I think Peter was overloading and possibly into a shock, and also I think they wanted to redeem Nathan's character in the eyes of Claire.

I agree about Hiro starting Volume II as right now I would say he is the strongest least developed character. From now on I say we refer to Heroes season as Volumes since that is what they are. Volume I ended last night and had a definitive end and we got the start of Volume II. :chew