Heroes- Now with spoilers!

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I think Peter was too overcome by Ted's powers to be able to fly. But I wonder why someone couldn't just knock him out to make him stop. It worked earlier when he blacked-out. I guess it wouldn't have been as dramatic.

And what was the deal with Peter's flashback? I take it we'll see more of Charles Deveaux in Generations.

I was completely confused by that. Why didn't he just fly himself away? Or why didn't cheerleader shoot him? Wouldn't the bullet have only knocked him out like the piece of glass did? Did his brother think he could save him by flying him away vs. cheerleader killing him? What did he think would happen -- that he would die in the explosion allowing Peter to fall to Earth and survive... or that he'd throw his brother clear, let him explode and then swoop in (litterally) and catch him? I'm gonna have to watch it again just to see if I understand the logic of that sequence.

 

[Agent0028]

I think its simply a plot hole.

 

[lcummins]

It's a fantasy show about superheroes... there are more plot-holes than potholes on the New Jersey Turnpike!!! You're not supposed to try and pick it to pieces, just sit back and enjoy the show! You'll go crazy otherwise!

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

It's a fantasy show about superheroes... there are more plot-holes than potholes on the New Jersey Turnpike!!! You're not supposed to try and pick it to pieces, just sit back and enjoy the show! You'll go crazy otherwise!

I agree, you can't take this stuff too seriously... however, I still wanna know why DL stepped in front of Niki and took that bullet when he could have simply phased them both. You could drive a truck through that plot hole.

 

[lcummins]

I agree, you can't take this stuff too seriously... however, I still wanna know why DL stepped in front of Niki and took that bullet when he could have simply phased them both. You could drive a truck through that plot hole.

Actually, you could drive all the trucks from the movie Convoy through the plot-holes in "Volume I"...

 

[TheObsoleteMan]

Actually, you could drive all the trucks from the movie Convoy through the plot-holes in "Volume I"...

What? You mean like Peter spending that time training with Doctor Who, learning to control his powers so that when the time came to control his powers he had absolutely no control whatsoever? That was time well spent.

 

[Darth Caedus]

It's much simpler though if Takei is Kensei and is immortal.

yea, captain zulu flew back in time with william shatner and started feudal japan. then he flew back to about 20 years ago and got busy to make hiro. then hiro went back in time to meet zulu in feudal japan. it's ALL starting to make sense now.

 

[Radagaster]

I could see how Sulu is immortal, as in something happened to him that doesn't age him. What you folks are missing was that scene where Sulu first pulls out the sword from its sheath when he's training Hiro. Recall how Sulu's eyes and his reflection off that sword was different? And then take a look at the Kensei and you get the same set of eyes. There's gotta be a connection between Kensei and Sulu . ..

 

[captain sack]

I'm gonna have to watch it again just to see if I understand the logic of that sequence.

the point of that sequence was to allow nathan to redeem himself.

 

[noelleon69]

It's a fantasy show about superheroes... there are more plot-holes than potholes on the New Jersey Turnpike!!! You're not supposed to try and pick it to pieces, just sit back and enjoy the show! You'll go crazy otherwise!

I guess that's what i have to do. There are just so many questions and also quite lame plots for me. In the volume finale, hiro could have just appeared behind sylar both times in isaac's loft and at the end with his sword and just chopped his head off.

But no... first time he appeared and shouted to sylar to ask him to release ando and risk sylar using his powers to kill him (which sylar silly enough didn't do). At the end, he appeared far away and had to again notify sylar of his arrival instead of the element of surprise. Before running towards sylar when he could have teleported himself nearer?

Anyway, hiro should have thought of a better way to make sure sylar's dead. Just a stab isn't really 100% sure way of killing someone. Ok, finally ranted out... if everything makes sense there wouldn't be much to see. But still... pretty lame Not that i didn't enjoy the series, i still love it.

 

[noelleon69]

I was thinking the same like some of you. Peter had the power of flying but he didn't when he possibly could fly up himself into the sky. But it does make sense that since he couldn't control the radiative power, he may not be able to control any other power at all.

On another note, a shot would have done the trick. But nathan chose to sacrifice himself? It's sad to see them die... but I've got a feeling their roles are pretty important so maybe somehow they ended up alive still? Ok, maybe not so much on nathan, considering peter's the one who is powerful having so many powers. For the good guys to loose him will be a great loss.

It looks to me that sylar probably managed to survive that single stab and crawled his way to the sewer to escape. The funny thing i was thinking at the end was - 'What? Nobody noticed he was gone?'.

I wasn't sure what was shown in his eyes after he was stabbed. I thought it showed the inevitable explosion which caused civilians screaming. But it didn't happen afterall... so what was it that he saw in the future i wonder.

 

[Karma]

people forget all those sylar killed & abilities taken. Peter received all those abilities plus a second dose of Ted's abilities all at once, too much all in one.

 

[Darth Caedus]

I was thinking the same like some of you. Peter had the power of flying but he didn't when he possibly could fly up himself into the sky. But it does make sense that since he couldn't control the radiative power, he may not be able to control any other power at all.

On another note, a shot would have done the trick. But nathan chose to sacrifice himself? It's sad to see them die... but I've got a feeling their roles are pretty important so maybe somehow they ended up alive still? Ok, maybe not so much on nathan, considering peter's the one who is powerful having so many powers. For the good guys to loose him will be a great loss.

It looks to me that sylar probably managed to survive that single stab and crawled his way to the sewer to escape. The funny thing i was thinking at the end was - 'What? Nobody noticed he was gone?'.

I wasn't sure what was shown in his eyes after he was stabbed. I thought it showed the inevitable explosion which caused civilians screaming. But it didn't happen afterall... so what was it that he saw in the future i wonder.

Well we know that peter isn't dead. Remember in the episode set 5 years in the future. Peter blew up new york, but was alive. The explosion just comes out of him, it doesn't mean he explodes. I imagine it kind of like a star, the energy just flows out of him. But poor nathan.....unless he flew away, or someone saved him, I think he's toast =[

 

[lcummins]

Just because we saw an explosion in the sky, doesn't mean it was Peter...

 

[Darklord Dave]

people forget all those sylar killed & abilities taken. Peter received all those abilities plus a second dose of Ted's abilities all at once, too much all in one.

So just by being near Sylar Peter gets a double dose of all the stolen powers? That would explain why he couldn't control Ted's power - but if that was what was intended they should have made it more obvious.

 

[Batty]

I just thought Peter absorbed their abilities and that was it. He wouldn't keep absorbing the same powers. It's not like he could be more invisible or he could heal faster if he reabsorbed those powers. At least that's how I see it.

 

[noelleon69]

Yeh over time i was thinking the same thing about peter. That he doesnt actually explode into pieces but rather releases an explosive energy from his body.

The fact that he was trying to concentrate very hard to control Ted's powers meant that he couldn't access his power of flying into the sky himself. However a simple shot from a gun would temporary delay the explosion. A shot to his head will knock him out, and he can be revived after removing the bullet.

I know if everything makes sense, the show wouldn't be interesting at all. But come to think of it, the writers seem to want us to believe that Peter is stupid. He is probably the most powerful good guy, and when choked by Sylar, he just didn't do anything, he could either use TK to choke or fling Sylar into the air.

Actually he would have killed Sylar very easily. How? Remember that he has Hiro's ability. He could have stopped time when he met Sylar in the plaza. Just shoot or chop him up whatever it is. And Peter wouldn't even be harmed in the process.

It is funny that other than trying to stop the explosion, the heroes also wanted Sylar dead. And none of them bothered about him after he laid on the ground, apparently dead.

 

[King Darkness]

Good final episode, but like many have pointed out, there were a few holes.

Why didnt Peter fly himself away?

Why didnt just knocking Peter out stop him from expolding?

What was with Peters flash back?

How did Hiro kill Slyer just by running at him and stabbing him(that was kinda lame)?!?!?!?!?

I am VERY excited for Volume 2 though!!!

 

[Mookeylama]

yep. lotsa holes. ones already mentioned but even the whole "have Clair shoot Peter in the head thing". as we've seen w/ both Claire and Peter, having something embedded in their brain effectively "kills" them, but removing said object starts regeneration and they're good as new. well about 90% of the time someone is shot in the head, the bullet also exits the head, especially if fired from something like that handcannon Pete gave to Claire. so shooting him in the brain wouldn't have worked anyway unless the bullet stayed in his brain. hell it actually woulda been more effective to stab Pete in the temple to put him down. oh well. grain of salt.

oh and i figure Nathan's still alive too. as fast as he flies he coulda easily taken Pete REALLY high, let go, and flown to a safe distance before Pete exploding or coming close enough to the ground to cause damage from the explosion.

 

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Anyone catch the season premiere tonight on USA? It took me a quarter of an hour to realize I was watching the 4400.