1/6 Hot Toys 1/6 Boba Fett ESB Version

[echo1126]

I received the same email too.

 

[sithocan]

Me too.

 

[Cicada17]

D’oh... Mine was cancelled too:

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[Cap'n Cook]

I think the visor is the most glaring error on the new helmet. It looks too tall in the centre.
At least the ROTJ helmet was closer to that.
Here's a comparison to the (possibly never to be released) EFX helmet (cast directly from the original).


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Spot on.

Takes away the whole 'Eastwood squint'.

 

[Wchow16]

I think the visor is the most glaring error on the new helmet. It looks too tall in the centre.
At least the ROTJ helmet was closer to that.
Here's a comparison to the (possibly never to be released) EFX helmet (cast directly from the original).


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Looking at these pics the ESB (and the ROTJ) is a lot closer then I expected. Perhaps there is on screen distortions in the movie stills?

 

[Centrocal]

Hi Res pg 48 post #471

 

[jedijim3002]

Ordered the deluxe version with some reward points. Couldn’t resist any longer.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Toywiz has corrected its price on site.

Ooops, just saw you guys got letters of cancellation. Oh well....

 

[Bo Shrek]

Wish they would have shown more "neck" in the Regular Proto images. ESB Fett is all about neck! Proto seem to hide that!

 

[ajp4mgs]

I think the visor is the most glaring error on the new helmet. It looks too tall in the centre.
At least the ROTJ helmet was closer to that.
Here's a comparison to the (possibly never to be released) EFX helmet (cast directly from the original).


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I think there are two main things that cause a Fett visor (and entire helmet, actually) to look more inaccurate than it really is: camera angles and head tilt. The EFX helmet in the post I'm quoting is not being framed by a straight-ahead camera angle. I'll try to demonstrate what I mean. Here's an image I put together of the movie helmet from ESB so that I can have a solid reference for when I start customizing my own ESB Boba helmet. The yellow lines are there to line up the vertical part of the T-visor, the horizontal part, and the top & bottom of the entire helmet.



Now here's the EFX helmet from the post quoted above (slightly tilted in order to line up more accurately) using the same reference lines. You can see that the "squint" of the visor looks too narrow because of the camera angle. If you compare it to the movie shots, you'd think it's completely wrong.



Now here's the Hot Toys ESB helmet (both straight-ahead and profile) using the same reference lines. The squint isn't as inaccurate as when you compare it to the EFX helmet. The camera angle is still too high on the HT shot, thus keeping it from looking even closer to the movie helmet that's next to it. The actual problem with the HT helmet is that the ridge above the visor should be thicker, so as to drop a bit further down. This would make the "squint" perfect.



And, finally, here's the same pic, but without the grid lines. I'm still waiting for a straight-ahead camera angle of the HT helmet. Every promo image is from too high, or has the head tilted down too much.



There is a very significant structural problem with the HT helmets (including ROTJ), but IMO, it's not the "squint" of the visor (or even the ridge that is too thin). I won't get into that all that here, though, because this post is probably already confusing enough.

 

[ridetofight]

no, please continue. this sort of stuff is the reason i come here. the insight we have from various experts in the community is enlightening, fully.

 

[Hoody999]

Let the analysis begin !!!

 

[sithocan]

Yes, please. You say very significant problem and tell less significant problems. We deserve that one

 

[Jaycepticon]

Let the analysis begin !!!

I'm looking at all my Fett figures on my shelf and I'm laughing about how every thread, for every single figure, has pretty much been the same as this.

From my 3.75" TVC figure to the 1/4th ones. It's always a good time though

 

[ajp4mgs]

Okay, here goes. Disclaimer: I am nowhere near an expert on any of this; there are members here who are, and can better evaluate these helmets. With that said, I am putting a great deal of effort into making a screen accurate ESB Boba Fett in 1/6 scale. In studying the helmets (movie and toy), I think most companies might be unnecessarily exaggerating the front "face" part of the helmet.

Here's another attempt to illustrate my point with reference lines. The camera angles don't match up (again), so there will be some disparity. But, going with what I have right now, it seems to me that the movie helmet is close to a 50/50 split between the front "face" part and the back part, with the side panels being closer to dead-center. The 1/6 helmets usually make the front part take up about 2/3 of the profile, with the back part making up only about 1/3.



The only 1/6 helmet I've seen that tries to make it closer to 50/50 is the Medicom helmet.



The Hasbro Titanium does a better job than my photo would suggest because I didn't turn it enough. Just look at the amount of visor showing in each one to get a sense for how it would look if I wasn't so horrible at photography.

 

[chrisstbh]

Just ordered with KG Hobby, I don't care about the issues I just want a Boba Fett. Hopefully the will be fixed though.

 

[Hoody999]

I'm looking at all my Fett figures on my shelf and I'm laughing about how every thread, for every single figure, has pretty much been the same as this.

From my 3.75" TVC figure to the 1/4th ones. It's always a good time though

Yep, I guess that's why they call us Freaks !!

I think I'll wait for the "looks better in hand" comments.....

All good fun though, it would be boring without some discussion and the occasional measurement & photo comparison

 

[ajp4mgs]

I think everyone could figure it out anyway, but I added labeling to each helmet to clarify which HT helmet is which just in case.



If it is a structural problem, as it seems to me, then that would mean that the horizontal part of the visor would be too long on the sides. This might even cause the whole "face" to seem too rounded from the front. The helmet looks "flatter" and wider in the movie. If I'm not just being fooled by camera angles and head tilts, I'd say that could be why the 1/6 helmets never look right to most fans. It could also be why so many have preferred the Medicom helmet (too bad it was made for a figure that is probably closer to 1/7 scale).

 

[Axxel]

I think everyone could figure it out anyway, but I added labeling to each helmet to clarify which HT helmet is which just in case.

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If it is a structural problem, as it seems to me, then that would mean that the horizontal part of the visor would be too long on the sides. This might even cause the whole "face" to seem too rounded from the front. The helmet looks "flatter" and wider in the movie. If I'm not just being fooled by camera angles and head tilts, I'd say that could be why the 1/6 helmets never look right to most fans. It could also be why so many have preferred the Medicom helmet (too bad it was made for a figure that is probably closer to 1/7 scale).

Thanks for drawing attention to this. I've been meaning to put together a post like this to show the ear plates are too far back. I think that the visor with is elongated as a result of the misplacement, and it makes the visor distortion worse when tilted.

Really hopeful that Hot Toys redoes the sculpt before launch. It's improved from the ROTJ helmet, but there's still a lot to be done before it's "movie-accurate".

 

[agonistes86]

Thanks for those posts, ajp4mgs. Quite insightful.