Hot Toys 1:6 Justice League Figure Speculation

[meanstreak]

Yep, I had a feeling this movie would get bad reviews.

I may pick up WW (cause I don't own her yet and liked WW) and Superman (for an upgrade) and that's likely it - unless somehow I fall in love with the new characters or movie. If I like Aquaman, I'll most likely wait for his solo film since I think the JL figure could be a lot better.

 

[davejames]

Even though I suspect I'll enjoy the movie more than the critics, reading these reviews still makes me really bummed that we couldn't get the JL movie Snyder actually wanted to make. And that it seems like once again studio interference has created a clunky mess with conflicting tones and styles that doesn't feel like the cohesive movie it should.

Sigh.

 

[moose]

Don't worry bout the reviews it's the general fan base and the casual movie goers opinion that matter and if that translate in to them actually showing up.

Reviewers hate every transformers movie and still people show up. They love blade runner and no body showed.

If word of mouth spreads that it is a good enough movie then people will come and bring their kids this is how marvel consistently makes more money then DC they make the movie family friendly and thus they show up.






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[sj2106]

What I can't fathom is why DCEU movies are held to much higher standards than MCU movies by critics. They overlook flaws and weaknesses in Marvel movies and then blast DC movies for the same issues. I'll see the movie tomorrow and no doubt enjoy it but these double standards are becoming tiresome.

 

[Rainpaulo]

What I can't fathom is why DCEU movies are held to much higher standards than MCU movies by critics. They overlook flaws and weaknesses in Marvel movies and then blast DC movies for the same issues. I'll see the movie tomorrow and no doubt enjoy it but these double standards are becoming tiresome.

 

[sj2106]

I notice most critics seem to be praising WW as the only good thing in the movie...whereas nearly all the reactions I see from fans say the Flash and Superman are the standouts.

 

[moose]

I notice most critics seem to be praising WW as the only good thing in the movie...whereas nearly all the reactions I see from fans say the Flash and Superman are the standouts.

It's up to us to make up our own mind. Ton fair to critics I tend to see them punish movies that structural flaws for example if the pacing is off, if the narrative does not flow those are what I see them punish movies with but what is clearly a matter of opinion is this " fun and light verses dark and ground " tone thing that they clearly have a basis for. And that is were I stop reading a review if they mention that

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[snakeeyes171]

that's what I thought all along

 

[weisun79]

I am sad to say i prefer BvS.. to me, BvS was wow!! The depth and heavy feel.
Justice league does not have that.
Anyway, to each their own, go watch it and decide.


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[cillafcollector]

Just came back from watching the movie, and I gotta say

Spoiler

this is the Superman that I've been waiting for after Man of Steel ,
and I got a feeling most of it came from Whedon reshoots

 

[weisun79]

I know this wont happen, but I want a Zack Snyder's director's edition.


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[snakeeyes171]

I know this wont happen, but I want a Zack Snyder's director's edition.


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me too, I want a edition where wb has not hacked up

 

[SilverStar17]

What I can't fathom is why DCEU movies are held to much higher standards than MCU movies by critics. They overlook flaws and weaknesses in Marvel movies and then blast DC movies for the same issues. I'll see the movie tomorrow and no doubt enjoy it but these double standards are becoming tiresome.

Put it this way: the critics on RT are currently giving Thor: Ragnarok a 93%. I personally enjoyed it, but did anyone think it was really just THAT good? At what point does it start becoming a bit eyebrow raising that seemingly everything in the DCEU (outside of WW) doesn't cut it for the critics, but the MCU craps out a gold brick almost every single time?

Just came back from watching the movie, and I gotta say

Spoiler

this is the Superman that I've been waiting for after Man of Steel ,
and I got a feeling most of it came from Whedon reshoots

I honestly don't believe Whedon had anything to do with that. I feel that was likely intended to be Superman's arc the entire time as far as the character's development and growth.

 

[sj2106]

Put it this way: the critics on RT are currently giving Thor: Ragnarok a 93%. I personally enjoyed it, but did anyone think it was really just THAT good? At what point does it start becoming a bit eyebrow raising that seemingly everything in the DCEU (outside of WW) doesn't cut it for the critics, but the MCU craps out a gold brick almost every single time?



I honestly don't believe Whedon had anything to do with that. I feel that was likely intended to be Superman's arc the entire time as far as the character's development and growth.

Agree completely and I'll add that as much as I love the Wonder Woman movie that is overrated to. It's very good but not as great as the 92% would have you think. Also seeing Ghostbusters 2016 rated fresh makes it hard to take some reviewers seriously.

As long as the Superman parts are good I'll enjoy the movie. The sooner he gets another solo movie the better.

 

[moose]

Put it this way: the critics on RT are currently giving Thor: Ragnarok a 93%. I personally enjoyed it, but did anyone think it was really just THAT good? At what point does it start becoming a bit eyebrow raising that seemingly everything in the DCEU (outside of WW) doesn't cut it for the critics, but the MCU craps out a gold brick almost every single time?



I honestly don't believe Whedon had anything to do with that. I feel that was likely intended to be Superman's arc the entire time as far as the character's development and growth.

I am not surprised it got that high if a praise , it's not structurally flawed so that they would punish and since they enjoy the movies that don't take themselves seriously I expect it to be highly liked. I don't prefer that.tone you can make it light heart with out it being childish. They could not wait to squeeze a joke at the expense of the dramatic moment.

My family watch's these movies and they are your average audience their general opinion is that these stories are becoming childish when the actual comics are far from it

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[SilverStar17]

Even though I enjoyed both, I thought WW was a better film than Thor 3. It was still a serious film while having its moments of humor; it was dramatic when it needed to be dramatic and funny when it needed to be funny. Almost a perfect blend of both.

Totally unrelated film, but for what it's worth, I think one of the only films out there that has a myriad of genres all in one without trying too hard to be any of them, is 1984 Ghosbusters. It had comedy, drama, seriousness, romance, science fiction and action, without trying too hard to put an emphasis on any of them. Probably why it remains one of my favorite, if not favorite, films to date.

 

[davejames]

I know this wont happen, but I want a Zack Snyder's director's edition.


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Even if the studio allowed it, I'm guessing it wouldn't be possible with all the changes that were made, and with Elfmans more comic booky type of score.

At this rate I'd just be happy with a longer "extended version" that doesn't feel as rushed as this one apparently does. And I have a feeling that's what Whedon would have preferred as well.

 

[Azrael23]

Put it this way: the critics on RT are currently giving Thor: Ragnarok a 93%. I personally enjoyed it, but did anyone think it was really just THAT good? At what point does it start becoming a bit eyebrow raising that seemingly everything in the DCEU (outside of WW) doesn't cut it for the critics, but the MCU craps out a gold brick almost every single time? .

I have to co-sign this sentiment. I'm sensing an inherent bias at work here. I'm wondering whether its purely
geared towards Snyder and/or the DCEU at large. And while I enjoyed WW and believe it to be a good film,
I wonder whether or not the extraordinarily high critical response on RT had more to do with gender politics as
oppose to the film itself. It also seems to now be the automatic go to response the moment any critical bias
is called into question.

 

[davejames]

I don't know if I'd call it "gender politics"; I think like a lot of people they just really liked the newness of seeing a female-led superhero movie, and one that viewed that world in a slightly different way.

And personally I think the low scores for Suicide Squad and BvS (theatrical) were kinda justified, given how incredibly choppy and rushed they were. MOS is the only one I think got unfairly trashed, just because critics didn't like that movie's more serious take on Superman.

 

[sj2106]

I have to co-sign this sentiment. I'm sensing an inherent bias at work here. I'm wondering whether its purely
geared towards Snyder and/or the DCEU at large. And while I enjoyed WW and believe it to be a good film,
I wonder whether or not the extraordinarily high critical response on RT had more to do with gender politics as
oppose to the film itself. It also seems to now be the automatic go to response the moment any critical bias
is called into question.

I think you hit the nail on the head and explains why the awful Ghostbusters remake somehow has a fresh rating.

Wonder Woman is my favourite of the DCEU movies I've seen thus far but let's not forget the villain in that movie was pretty bad also. It also had a couple of pretty juvenile jokes. Those things given a pass but the same courtesies are not extended to JL it seems.