Hot Toys Announce "The Expendables 2" License!

[Blackthornone]

And yet, at the end of the day, when all is said and done, no matter how much you ***** and moan like an old woman, Hot Toys doesn't owe you a ****** thing. They're going to do whatever the **** they want and release what they chose and you can either buy or cry. They don't give two ****s or a ****.

The implication that a company should not care what their customers want is absurd. With that business model, most companies would be out of business. Customers demand something, the company makes it, and the customers pay the company for it so that the company profits.
If enough customers want a certain character, a company will make it.
As far as owe, a company owes a customer what is promised for the price. If what is promised is not delivered, the customer does not owe the company any money.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Hey Expendables Fans, just can’t wait to catch The Expendables 2 in theaters this August? Good news! We are proud to announce that we’ve got the collectibles in the works for you! Stay tuned for updates!

Question:
Is it incorrect/entitlement to expect collectibles from this statement which states they'll be providing collectibles for sale?

 

[pred439]

Aw this is freaken awesome!

 

[kl241]

Question:
Is it incorrect/entitlement to expect collectibles from this statement which states they'll be providing collectibles for sale?

The expectation was clearly set by Hot Toys. They need to put up or shut up.

 

[quiggle]

well when you look at that banner, the fact they wrote down Barney's Christas instead of Christmas they probably also misspelled figure with figures

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

^ I never even noticed that blurb

Seeing as how it say's "...that we have collectibles in the works..." then that means at least more than one, if they stick to their word that is, and since it (kinda) say's christmas then he's most likely to be the other

The expectation was clearly set by Hot Toys. They need to put up or shut up.

Thought so

 

[quiggle]

I think they should not have made a hand with the ring but instead with classics instead the more I watch this now the more I keep wanting to make the pose with the civilan outfit

[ame]https://youtu.be/oLVS8lm3x4o[/ame]

 

[thenammagazine]

The implication that a company should not care what their customers want is absurd. With that business model, most companies would be out of business. Customers demand something, the company makes it, and the customers pay the company for it so that the company profits.

More customers want umpteen Iron Man/Avenger and Batman figures than want Expendable figures. That was my point. If 100 crybabies are throwing tittybaby fits over wanting a Lee Christmas, what would be more absurd? To make a Lee Christmas for the 100 people who'd buy one or 10,000 MKVIIs for the 10,000 customers watering at the mouth for an Avengers IM figure? With your business model, the company tanks.

If enough customers want a certain character, a company will make it.

This is flawed logic. There are blatant holes in almost every single one of HT's lines.

As far as owe, a company owes a customer what is promised for the price. If what is promised is not delivered, the customer does not owe the company any money.

A company does not owe a customer a ****** thing until the customer has paid for it.

 

[Stanlore]

More customers want umpteen Iron Man/Avenger and Batman figures than want Expendable figures. That was my point. If 100 crybabies are throwing tittybaby fits over wanting a Lee Christmas, what would be more absurd? To make a Lee Christmas for the 100 people who'd buy one or 10,000 MKVIIs for the 10,000 customers watering at the mouth for an Avengers IM figure? With your business model, the company tanks.



This is flawed logic. There are blatant holes in almost every single one of HT's lines.



A company does not owe a customer a ****** thing until the customer has paid for it.

 

[Blackthornone]

More customers want umpteen Iron Man/Avenger and Batman figures than want Expendable figures. That was my point. If 100 crybabies are throwing tittybaby fits over wanting a Lee Christmas, what would be more absurd? To make a Lee Christmas for the 100 people who'd buy one or 10,000 MKVIIs for the 10,000 customers watering at the mouth for an Avengers IM figure? With your business model, the company tanks.



This is flawed logic. There are blatant holes in almost every single one of HT's lines.



A company does not owe a customer a ****** thing until the customer has paid for it.

I said they should make a figure if enough people want one. 100 isn't enough. With my business model, the company ensures success.

Obviously a company doesn't owe the customer anything until they pay, but unless HT gives figures out for free, it's a given that the customers will pay to get them.

 

[thenammagazine]

I said they should make a figure if enough people want one. 100 isn't enough. With my business model, the company ensures success.

With your business model, they go broke chasing after small fish, never expanding, while other companies gobble up the bigger licenses. Keep in mind, the figures in question are the Expendables, hence my very accurate Lee Christmas comparison to Iron Man (which is what Nova's being tittybaby about). HotToys would have to be completely stupid to drop a cash cow to reign in resources to make a figure that won't be nearly as successful. Your suggestion of doing just that is naive.

Obviously a company doesn't owe the customer anything until they pay, but unless HT gives figures out for free, it's a given that the customers will pay to get them.

That's not what you said though. You said, and I quote "a company owes the customer what is promised for the price." You're wrong. A company doesn't owe a customer anything at all, until money has exchanged hands. If a company shows a product preview, it's just that, a preview. There's no guarantee it's coming out, and no promise that it will be produced. Nothing is owed until there's been a monetary transaction at which time, and only at that time, there becomes an obligation of either a product or a full refund. Trying to reword your original statement so that you're right, is just as wrong.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

and no promise that it will be produced.

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We are proud to announce that we’ve got the collectibles in the works for you! Stay tuned for updates!

There's a clear as day promise they'll be produced

People expect them beacause they promised they'll be doing them, if they didn't Expendable fans wouldn't be expecting them

 

[thenammagazine]

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Clearly the only thing that needs to be served is more reading comprehension classes for you. They said "collectibles." We saw a WIP Barney at SDCC. Whether or not you like what they're releasing (or re-releasing), they're still collectibles and Barney qualifies as one.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Barney does indeed qualify as one, one of...?

After all they said Collectibles

According to you when Hot Toys announces a license and promises collectibles, that doesn't mean people should actually expect them to come

 

[thenammagazine]

Barney does indeed qualify as one, one of...?

After all they said Collectibles

According to you when Hot Toys announces a license and promises collectibles, that doesn't mean people should actually expect them to come

Where's the world "promise?"

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Semantics.

Saying "i'm gonna give you this", is the exact same as "i promise i'm going to give you this"

The word is just an unspoken prefix that doesn't need to be said as it's fully implied

 

[thenammagazine]

Semantics.

Saying "i'm gonna give you this", is the exact same as "i promise i'm going to give you this"

The word is just an unspoken prefix that doesn't need to be said as it's fully implied

It's not semantics. Your false sense of entitlement is twisting Hot Toys' words.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

You're confusing entitlement with expectation.

en·ti·tle·ment

The fact of having a right to something.

That would mean beleiving one has a right to Expendables figures from hot toys whether they said they're doing them or not.

ex·pec·ta·tion

A strong belief that something will happen

Because they said it will happen via the clear as day announcement stating they'll be doing them.

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Entitlement would be saying Hot Toys HAS to make Dredd figures for me vs expecting them AFTER Hot Toys have said themselves they'll be making them

 

[Monger]

You should know better than to argue with The Nam. He's wrestled bears on more than one occasion. I saw him do it once.

 

[thenammagazine]

You're confusing entitlement with expectation.

No, I'm not. Your false sense of entitlement has you believing they promised you something and have even taken it one step further with your pathetic use of "promise," that they, as you've stated, somehow "owe" you something. In actuality, all they've stated, which is more than obvious, is that they're working on products, and at the end of the day, unless you've already paid them, don't owe you a ****** thing, not even an explanation if they don't produce the product.