Hot Toys - Artist Collection - AVP: Samurai Predator 1/6 Scale Collectible Figure

[nothingface35]

I always like to imagine the predators technological advancements to have more to do with their spectrum of vision. It took human beings millions of years to view and harness electricity. An intelligent race that naturally could physically view these occurances in there environment would likely learn to advance them at an accelerated rate. I dunno just a thought. I think the slave revolt idea is pretty cool to.

Not to nitpick but human's haven't been around for millions of years.

 

[Bardoon]

But then in P2 he saw in infra red without his bio mask!

I believe that its been explained that one shade of infrared is their "natural vision". Just like humans and our own "natural vision" and the spectrum we see in. Don't quote me on this, but I believe Gary Busey's character explains it in Predator 2. What they didn't anticipate was that the Predator can shift vision modes and well, we saw what happened to the team after that happened.

Predators (as a hunter culture) utilize the vision mode of the bio-mask to allow them to "see" in the other adjusted spectrum of infrared and light (ultraviolet, "alien vision" in AvP etc.) that they don't normally see in. To better hunt their prey.

 

[Predator1221]

It's all just opinion, but one could argue that all of these "handicaps" could have created a biological imperative to advance technologically, and they see naturally in infared. Infrared (IR) light is electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength longer than that of visible light. I came up with this whole back story theory as I was working threw a physics course, and day dreaming while I should have been paying attention.

 

[Predator1221]

Not to nitpick but human's haven't been around for millions of years.

yes I realize that our written history only dates back a few thousand years, but humans have been around much longer than that, which is what I was trying to account for. Unless of course our friendly debate is about to take a religious turn. In which case I have no interest in pursuing any further.. hahaha jk.

 

[Veteran Yautja]

With regards to the Pred's sight and hearing, the sounds and images we view in games and films are how our human minds can perceive them. Who knows what subtleties and details a Predator brain can decipher from them? Just a thought.

 

[Predator1221]

I think the predators technological advancements inarguablly seem to contradict their character as a species and deserves a origin story. I think every theory I've read here seems like a decent origin story idea. Perhaps if Prometheus does well a predator origin story may follow closley.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

With regards to the Pred's sight and hearing, the sounds and images we view in games and films are how our human minds can perceive them. Who knows what subtleties and details a Predator brain can decipher from them? Just a thought.

Those vision modes look the same for the Predators.

The whole purpose of showing them is so we can see what they're seeing..see through their eyes.

 

[nothingface35]

yes I realize that our written history only dates back a few thousand years, but humans have been around much longer than that, which is what I was trying to account for. Unless of course our friendly debate is about to take a religious turn. In which case I have no interest in pursuing any further.. hahaha jk.

Not religious at all. Modern humans originated approximately 200,000 years ago. Dinosaurs were around millions of years ago and we didn't live at the same time. Come on man, this is common sense!!

 

[vareika]

I've actually always considered their vision as a handicap if anything. I've wondered how they could possibly have developed technologies when their eyesight is as it is.

Yah doesn't make much sense. How do you build something that contains all that intricate detail when you can't see for ____ unless their is heat signals...

But I also agree that it would be less impressive if they simply stole the technology from another species.

Maybe there are predators that have better vision...but that could mean a whole lot more speculation and things to consider.

 

[Veteran Yautja]

Those vision modes look the same for the Predators.

The whole purpose of showing them is so we can see what they're seeing..see through their eyes.

It doesnt follow that we can make as much sense of it as they can though. Or even if under sunlight and atmosphere of their homeworld things become a lot clearer???

In truth it's a 'monster vision' effect to let us know we're seeing things as the Predator does, so it doesn't really matter if we can make head nor tail of it at all. It would be pretty boring from a cinematic point of view if the 'creature' saw everything the same way as Dutch, Harrigan etc. saw things.

 

[Bardoon]

Yah doesn't make much sense. How do you build something that contains all that intricate detail when you can't see for ____ unless their is heat signals...

But I also agree that it would be less impressive if they simply stole the technology from another species.

Maybe there are predators that have better vision...but that could mean a whole lot more speculation and things to consider.

Perhaps because their eyesight is adapted for the one place they would use it the most and where their species originated: their home planet. Much like a fish in the deep abyss who evolves to lose their eyesight because they don't need it.

Aside from the "sneak peek" in AVP:R, perhaps the environment of the home planet is much more suitable for their vision and they can "see" clearly enough to develop such intricate designs and cultural architecture/weapons/etc.

 

[Rotfish]

To those people i suggest they read this quote from Stan Winston himself...

"Broad concept's the same. The difference is, this is a different individual. A different individual of the same species. As is a snake is a snake, but different snakes are different. Their colorings are different, different parts of their characteristics, their facial structures, subtle differences."

It's definitely stylized. Stan Winston said what you posted regarding the design of P2, but P2 was still made for the movies and fit right in. I think the hate towards this guy doesn't necessarily stem from the concept, but from the artistic direction in which that concept was taken (which isn't a bad thing; it's all a matter of personal taste).

The fact is this is intended to be an artsy-fartsy piece, plain and simple. In other words, if this Predator (with this design and overall feel) was to be used in a film, it would probably be a cartoon or CG movie with human characters that are just as stylized. The oriental demon-esque body, the jagged mandibles... remember the animated movie Atlantis? Yeah, it had people and machines, but the way they were represented was a little more abstract than in your usual 'toon. That's what's happening here. It's a Predator with a non-canon backstory, coupled with the sculptor's own style.

It's like expressive/stylized fan fiction, but in figure form.

 

[Predator1221]

Not religious at all. Modern humans originated approximately 200,000 years ago. Dinosaurs were around millions of years ago and we didn't live at the same time. Come on man, this is common sense!!

OK I didn't say modern humans. I can't believe were still on this point. I was speaking simply to the idea that a species who's original ancestors saw in a different spectrum of light than us, just mite be able to advance technologically. This whole thing is kind of a difficult concept to grasp for some I know.

 

[Bum]

Artist collection. First in line is Predator.
God forbid there be this much when they do Iron Man, etc.

 

[Predator1221]

Do you all think the $300+ price point will hold for this guy.

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Perhaps because their eyesight is adapted for the one place they would use it the most and where their species originated: their home planet. Much like a fish in the deep abyss who evolves to lose their eyesight because they don't need it.

Aside from the "sneak peek" in AVP:R, perhaps the environment of the home planet is much more suitable for their vision and they can "see" clearly enough to develop such intricate designs and cultural architecture/weapons/etc.

This too..I'm going with this idea.

 

[nothingface35]

OK I didn't say modern humans. I can't believe were still on this point. I was speaking simply to the idea that a species who's original ancestors saw in a different spectrum of light than us, just mite be able to advance technologically. This whole thing is kind of a difficult concept to grasp for some I know.

Not difficult at all. I always understood what you meant.

 

[riky]

Do you all think the $300+ price point will hold for this guy.

Nope, but I am almost always wrong. Price is the only thing putting me off. I do not see $350+ in value on this (at initial retail). I do look forward to in hand pics of this guy.

 

[nekromantik]

Wow that is expensive!
Hope the P2 HT figure wont be this much. It will put people off buying it. Not sure if I like the design though.

 

[Predator1221]

I hope your right I feel I've just gotten used to the new price point. I feel I received my $220 worth with my classic predator, and hope to get the same with a predator 2 remake. The $260 price tag on the Nicholson joker is tempting me to pass even though it seems like a must for any collection. The same goes for this figure, however I would not consider this one to be a must have by any stretch.