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This thread has devolved into a scale argument.


The questions could easily be settled by looking at the "official" website and the wiki.

From the website www.avatarmovie.com
Na’vi vary in size, by region and genetic history. Maximum recorded height is 3.9 meters, with a mass of 290 kg, for a Na’vi male. Adult Na’vi males in the region of Australis surrounding Hell’s Gate (where the movie takes place), average 3 meters in height (9'10")and 210 kg. Females in this region average 2.8 meters/190 kg (or 9'2") . Other examples of gender dimorphism are the pronounced pectoral tendons and sternal prominences in the male.




From the Avatar Wiki https://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar_Wiki
The indigenous Na'vi are, on average, approximately 3 meters (~ 10 feet) tall, with smooth, striped cyan-colored skin, large amber eyes, and long, sweeping tails. Their bodies are more slender than humans. They are the only known extraterrestrial species discovered to have human-like consciousness and intelligence. Although the Na'vi are hunter-gatherers with technology equivalent of Earth's Paleolithic epoch, they have developed a sophisticated culture based on a profound spiritual connection to other life on their moon, each other, and an encompassing "goddess" they call Eywa.


So bottom line is that HT got the scale pretty much right.

No they didn't,...at 18" tall they are way off,...

if the females Na'vi are 9'2" feet,...and Jake is CLEARLY taller than Neytiri in the movie,...that makes him at least 10 feet tall,..that just proves HotToys did not get it right!,..
and look the picture i posted,...it listen the AVATARS as 10 feet high,...
and besides size,..his head is way small too,..and the body is way too skinny,...
 
This thread has devolved into a scale argument.


The questions could easily be settled by looking at the "official" website and the wiki.

From the website www.avatarmovie.com
Na’vi vary in size, by region and genetic history. Maximum recorded height is 3.9 meters, with a mass of 290 kg, for a Na’vi male. Adult Na’vi males in the region of Australis surrounding Hell’s Gate (where the movie takes place), average 3 meters in height (9'10")and 210 kg. Females in this region average 2.8 meters/190 kg (or 9'2") . Other examples of gender dimorphism are the pronounced pectoral tendons and sternal prominences in the male.




From the Avatar Wiki https://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar_Wiki
The indigenous Na'vi are, on average, approximately 3 meters (~ 10 feet) tall, with smooth, striped cyan-colored skin, large amber eyes, and long, sweeping tails. Their bodies are more slender than humans. They are the only known extraterrestrial species discovered to have human-like consciousness and intelligence. Although the Na'vi are hunter-gatherers with technology equivalent of Earth's Paleolithic epoch, they have developed a sophisticated culture based on a profound spiritual connection to other life on their moon, each other, and an encompassing "goddess" they call Eywa.


Also from the Wiki
During the flight, the avatar (Human/Na'vi Hybrids)progresses from coin-sized embryo to a near adult size of nine feet (2.75m). Gentle blue light tailored to mimic the natural Pandoran daylight spectrum aids skin formation and guarantees amniotic fluid sterility. Nutrient-rich broth is circulated through an artificial placenta, a purpose-designed matrix of spongiform blood vessels and monitoring electrodes. Engineered hormones are used to stimulate rapid growth and ensure correct organ development and muscle tone during the interstellar journey. Avatars are normally grown 'en-route' to Pandora while their operators sleep in cryo-hibernation for the journey.


Some known differences between the avatars and Na'vi are due to the influence of human DNA.

■Critically, the avatar brain and nervous system are modeled to precisely match that of its human operator while still maintaining appropriate Na'vi cellular biology. The avatar also possesses the necessary nervous system pathways required for the control interface.
■Avatars retain the human configuration of five digits on each hand and foot, rather than the native Na'vi who possess four digits on each limb.
■Avatars possess eyebrows, while the Na'vi are hairless apart from their scalp and a small tuff of hair on the tips of their tails.
■Avatars display slightly more human-like body musculature and structure than the Na'vi (this is especially apparent when comparing the build of Jake Sully to that of the male Na'vi of the Omaticaya clan; Jake's body structure is sturdier than those of the more willowy Na'vi).
■The Na'vi have large lemur-like eyes, while the eyes of an avatar are usually smaller and more human-like.
■The Na'vi nose is flat and cat-like, while the nose of the avatar has a more human-like pronounced central ridge.
■The queue of an avatar starts at the base of the skull, whereas a Na'vi queue starts at the top of the skull. The reason for this is not clear.

So bottom line is that HT got the scale pretty much right.

:lol:slap:goodpost::exactly:

And.. https://james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar_(species)

The completed, fully grown avatar is much closer to the long-limbed Na'vi than human in appearance; typical adult size ranges from eight to ten feet (2.5 - 3.0m) tall.
 
Haha I love seeing these nerd fights :) Seriously who cares how tall they are?!

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Indigenous adult Na'vi males range from 10-12 foot tall on average, but Jakes' AVATAR is 9' tall according to James Cameron. AVATAR's are smaller and also have 5 fingers and toes. You obviously don't have the figure if you think it's a rubber torso and doesn't look like him. Who am I going to believe, some guy on a forum or Hot Toys and James Cameron? :lol Troll harder... :slap

It's soft PVC "rubber" torso and pelvis (pelvic region)...

p.s just bought a 4th Jake.
 
Does anyone happen to have a link to a page of in-hand pix, so I don't have to wade through the slap fight about Na'vi height to determine if I want to pick this up? :)
 
Does anyone happen to have a link to a page of in-hand pix, so I don't have to wade through the slap fight about Na'vi height to determine if I want to pick this up? :)

https://sideshowcollectors.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4536601&postcount=2307

Towards the bottom of that post I show a couple photos of Jake with other 1/6th humans for comparison, if that's what you're interested in. Prior to that others have posted photos too of the figure by itself.

As I said, nice stand alone figure, but clearly smaller than 1/6th.

Sean
 
I give up on the scale discussion.:thud:

Now on to other business... still hoping to see a Neytiri at Comic Con. I'd also like to see another Jake with the native look. Ultimately, this is how I'd like to display Jake and Neytiri.

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I'd prefer this as a 1:6 or 1:4 dio, but given that the SS Neytiri maquette is a small fortune and also a little off in the likeness dept, I don't think we'll be seeing Jake. It would be cool to see Enterbay get the license to see what they could do with it.
 
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I am so sorry for sparking this wildfire. Who gives a rats a$$ if the figure it just an inch off. I stand by my original statement, if YOU think you can do better in either:

A. Scale
B. Detail
or
C. Articulation

then please...PLEASE put up or shut up. I am all for being critical of a piece, but nit picking over shortcomings that are set in stone is no way to go. If you own the figure, great! If you are thinking of getting it, even better.

But if you flat out have no desire what so EVER to pick the piece up then you should just troll another thread with something you are more interested in.
 
I usually end up un-subscribing from a thread a few weeks after the figure/statue has arrived. I still can't figure out why.

Congrats to everyone who got one! Good lookin figure.
 
:lol :lol :lol What a great thread :lol

I also agree that Jake is undersized (said it when I got him) but its kind of like the ED-209 you don't really notice since he's so big to begin with and the difference is not quite enough (like Sandcrawler even said) to be a deal breaker.

I did seem like Jake was shorter than Tsu Tey, but taller than Neytiri so the scale is probably even closer than if he were supposed to be a full 10" inches tall... at around 18" that comes to 9'.
 
if jake is undersized...im glad cuz i had trouble trying to fit him in the detolf! luckily he fits...if any bigger, he probably wouldnt!
 
I was on the fence about this piece. After reading this (entertaining) thread about this guy I decided to give him a shot..... and I'm glad I did. Pics do not do him justice. In pictures he kinda looks cartoony to me. BUT........ in person this piece is incredible, so much detail, the head and eyes are insane.... and it is one of the better looking pieces in my showcase now! Glad I decided to get him.... Thanks to everyone who posted positive comments that helped persuade me to pick him up!
 
Jake finally arrived for me today :)

I absolutely love him. The detail in all the accessories is amazing, the little buckles on the grenade belt, the feather detail on the arm bands, calf brace and the hair are all so well done.

The eyes are perfect and loving the braided hair, as well as the gun.

Really happy with this piece, regardless on whether it's the right scale or not, he looks amazing on the shelf.
 
Jake finally arrived for me today :)

I absolutely love him. The detail in all the accessories is amazing, the little buckles on the grenade belt, the feather detail on the arm bands, calf brace and the hair are all so well done.

The eyes are perfect and loving the braided hair, as well as the gun.

Really happy with this piece, regardless on whether it's the right scale or not, he looks amazing on the shelf.

:exactly::goodpost: I agree 100%
 
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