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Re: HT Batman 1989 Coming

Given the secrecy around the film being driven by Nolan, I actually think they probably have nothing more than we do
 
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A few months ago there was an announcement that reference had been sent for promoting the film when Catwoman was being discussed. That means toy companies (Mattel, Hot Toys) and anyone that has a hand in marketing the film would receive this information as well. Keep in mind they have to prepare as well to promote and plan product.

Of course they have to be tight lipped about it, but they're just as secretive as the filmmakers because it means $$$ for them. No way would professional marketers, designers etc. spill the beans on a high profile subject such as a Batman film.

I'm sure as we discuss this they're working on something, even if it isn't 100% complete or finalized. They've got some material in their grasp that the public hasn't seen.

V1 Joker comes to mind and we all remember Hot Toy's response to that one (not enough material).
 
Re: HT Batman 1989 Coming

A few months ago there was an announcement that reference had been sent for promoting the film when Catwoman was being discussed. That means toy companies (Mattel, Hot Toys) and anyone that has a hand in marketing the film would receive this information as well. Keep in mind they have to prepare as well to promote and plan product.

Of course they have to be tight lipped about it, but they're just as secretive as the filmmakers because it means $$$ for them. No way would professional marketers, designers etc. spill the beans on a high profile subject such as a Batman film.

I'm sure as we discuss this they're working on something, even if it isn't 100% complete or finalized. They've got some material in their grasp that the public hasn't seen.

V1 Joker comes to mind and we all remember Hot Toy's response to that one (not enough material).

Spilling something like that could also very easily cost a company the license.
 
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Whatever HT does with this license it will be short and sweet. Batman and Joker. It wouldn't suprise me if they already have the sculpts finished for these guys.
 
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I really hope HT makes a Returns Batman too, although I know the chances to see it in the near future are slim.
For me the suits compare to Blade, only the other way around. With Blade, I like both suits, but much prefer the first version. I didn't like the Blade II version enough to get it, although I love the character. Here, I llike both suits, but much prefer the Returns version, and most likely won't get the Batman version.
 
Re: HT Batman 1989 Coming

A few months ago there was an announcement that reference had been sent for promoting the film when Catwoman was being discussed. That means toy companies (Mattel, Hot Toys) and anyone that has a hand in marketing the film would receive this information as well. Keep in mind they have to prepare as well to promote and plan product.

Of course they have to be tight lipped about it, but they're just as secretive as the filmmakers because it means $$$ for them. No way would professional marketers, designers etc. spill the beans on a high profile subject such as a Batman film.

I'm sure as we discuss this they're working on something, even if it isn't 100% complete or finalized. They've got some material in their grasp that the public hasn't seen.

V1 Joker comes to mind and we all remember Hot Toy's response to that one (not enough material).

Yeah I know that would be the standard procedure, that toy companies and marketers would get the secret bits to start their work, but somehow I don't think that has happeend with this yet. I mean once they release some official promos probably by late summer, they could send the details then and still leave plenty of time for product development.

But yeah, that's just what my hunch is, no way we'll know definitively.
 
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Yeah I know that would be the standard procedure, that toy companies and marketers would get the secret bits to start their work, but somehow I don't think that has happeend with this yet. I mean once they release some official promos probably by late summer, they could send the details then and still leave plenty of time for product development.

But yeah, that's just what my hunch is, no way we'll know definitively.

I'd be willing to bet companies are well in development of characters for The Dark Knight Rises. Merchandising is an extremely important aspect of any film like this (thanks to George Lucas). Development takes time, especially with the headache of licensor approval, and the need to capitalize off of the film's hype/press/etc., is also crucial for sales. So again, I wouldn't doubt for an instant that companies already have concept designs if not full costume pics, already in hand.
 
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When it comes to Batman product, Batman and Robin is the perfect example. The security on that film was as tight as it could be in 1996/1997 and all these companies had reference material, well in advance. That film and the Phantom Menace were actually the start of all the internet spoiler/information hoopla that happens to this day. Before people actually saw B&R and figured it was utter ____, there was tons of contrived stuff going around.

Almost all the toys that came out for that film, including Mr. Freeze, came out so early because the designs that Hasbro were given were simply concepts. They were made well into advance. I don't think one character or figure was a complete 100% translation from the film. They were all the early film art concepts. A couple months later, yeah, they made a few accurate ones but those early ones were all early concepts that WB, director or whatever turned in. Hasbro worked pretty close with them too.

Remember all that TDK art Void? The depictions that had the Begins looking Bale head on top of the concept art for the, then new TDK suit? That was all 2006/2007 reference. Then they had all the pre-Ledger punk looking concepts of Batman against him in the interrogation room and then the really early photos of Ledger as Joker well into pre-production.

That was all given for marketing, well before the film was even close to being made, maybe even filmed. Hell, the Mattel Movie Master figure that came out in May 2008 was modeled after those production photos of Ledger as the Joker. The neutral costume shots with the white background. Most of which were used for the marketing art work too.
 
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I don't think they'll just release two figures and be done with it - but I do think it's likely that figures will be released in a spotty, inconsistent, long-term schedule, rather than all in a rough stream like the TDK figures.

TDK figures came out with the first three (OC Batman, TDK Batman, v1 Joker) at once - then a short while later we got Two-Face and the Tumbler. (Not sure when Bat-Pod was released). Maybe a year after that we got DX Joker, followed by DX Batman the next year.

But the "Batman Begins" line was much spottier. There were was the initial figure, and then a few years later the OC Batman re-release (part of the TDK line). A few years later, we got Scarecrow/Bat-Demon, and then the new Batman 8 months after that.

So I wouldn't be surprised if you see the initial Batman and Joker released before the first TDKR figures - and then spotty releases after that over the next few years (in between releases of subsequent TDKR waves).

As awesome as a Batman Returns Batman would be, the demand would naturally be a bit less than 1989 Batman - so maybe we'll see it as a convention exclusive at some point. And then you've got the Penguin, Catwoman, and potential Joker variants.
 
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Remember all that TDK art Void? The depictions that had the Begins looking Bale head on top of the concept art for the, then new TDK suit? That was all 2006/2007 reference. Then they had all the pre-Ledger punk looking concepts of Batman against him in the interrogation room and then the really early photos of Ledger as Joker well into pre-production.

Yupp - and i followed the build up to TDK just as closely as I'm following this one, but I dunno, seems like we had a lot more info on TDK at this stage of production. :dunno

Anyway you guys may well be right
 
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seems like we had a lot more info on TDK at this stage of production. :dunno

You're right about that.

We had quite a few production scene pics at this stage. The one of Batman and the "impostor Batman", Joker at the party, Joker with Rachel, interrogation stuff.

Plenty of Joker stuff, but I think that's the nature of the Joker character in general.
 
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Yupp - and i followed the build up to TDK just as closely as I'm following this one, but I dunno, seems like we had a lot more info on TDK at this stage of production. :dunno

Anyway you guys may well be right

That's because it was all being done in downtown Chicago. A lot harder to keep things quiet and locked down there than in, say, the studio hangars in England or out in the sticks where they're doing Wayne manor.
 
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Yep, very true Haytil.

I'm sure once they start filming here, TDKR info, pics, etc. will really be in full force.
 
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They also did a Joker-themed viral campaign for TDK, so that should explain the amount of publicity stuff they made available during the film's production. Like DiFabio said: "I think that's the nature of the Joker character in general.".
Maybe the strategy for the new one revolves more around secrecy and rumors to build up a sense of mistery.
When closer to the relase date, the Internet will be flooded with TDRK images and clips though. lol.
 
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They also did a Joker-themed viral campaign for TDK, so that should explain the amount of publicity stuff they made available during the film's production. Like DiFabio said: "I think that's the nature of the Joker character in general.".
Maybe the strategy for the new one revolves more around secrecy and rumors to build up a sense of mistery.
When closer to the relase date, the Internet will be flooded with TDRK images and clips though. lol.

This is what I personally believe.

That and I think there are some major plot points Nolan wants to keep under wraps to add to the movie day experience - what with the plane and Ra's and LOS rumours and Talia rumours and godknowswhatelse, this film could be just about anything at this point
 
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hoping to see somethng from this license at sdcc.
 
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Oh man, just think.

Hot Toys Toy Fairs Exclusive MMS 155 Batman/Bruce Wayne becomes available for order on or near SDCC and then at SDCC '89 Batman is revealed at the show along with specs/pics and up for pre-order.

1/6 Batman goodness.

I doubt it though but it would be really cool if '89 Batman was MMS 156. Side by side to the "new" Batman.
 
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Oh man, just think.

Hot Toys Toy Fairs Exclusive MMS 155 Batman/Bruce Wayne becomes available for order on or near SDCC and then at SDCC '89 Batman is revealed at the show along with specs/pics and up for pre-order.

1/6 Batman goodness.

I doubt it though but it would be really cool if '89 Batman was MMS 156. Side by side to the "new" Batman.

Wow, that'd be incredible. Too bad I'm too far to make it to SDCC!
 
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